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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Get rid of my TTII's are go for something else?

Been thinking of upgrading to some 18's...and selling my 17 inch TTII's. I like the TTII's....but they give the car the "old school" and I'm trying to get off of that look. I was looking at these: http://www.ttformula.com/images/misc/steelGrayChop.jpg

They are called "privat profils" but I'm not sure who makes them. Not sure about getting rid of my wheels yet...just kind of getting idea's. What do you think...upgrade to 18's? or not?
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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I think the TT2's look awesome on your car. I'm not too sure about how those "privats" would look- but I'm sure they couldnt hurt the look of your car. If you decide to get rid of the TT2's.. I'll give you my shipping address.
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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Nope, don't do it. At least not for those wheels. They have WAY to much crap going on. I understand the logic about your car looking "old school" but to some extent, that's what our cars are. You can only change the look so much, ya know?

Look at Kandied's old car, Graboid's car, YOUR car. Look at TT2's, and the Ronal/Firehawks, and look at all the timeless GM wheels like the Irocs, GTA's, ZR1's and corvette ralleys. Too much wheel is ghetto. The wheel should accent the car, not the other way around.

Your car is awesome the way it is, but if a newer look is on the agenda, try some 18" Irocs(newer, maybe not NEW), or maybe Fikse FM5's. What about some gunmetal Z06's?

You'll ALWAYS want something more, until one day you do it and wish you could go back.
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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I think the TTII's are over played on just about every make of car you can find. With that being said your car is just too clean and uncommon to have such a commmon wheel like the TTII's. I say go with something original that will make your car stand out in a big crowd.

Those wheels you are looking at are nice but maybe alittle too much going on(maybe loose the rivets). Just think about having to clean those rivets when the wheels get dirty..........

Anyway just my 2cents.
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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Keep them. They look great and always will.
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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i wouldnt, but then again i LOVE TTII's. if you do decide to sell them however drop me a PM before you put them in the classifieds cause if its in a couple months ill be looking into either TTII's or Cragar SS's in 17's.


BTW your car was a huge inspiration for mine (i fell in love with the SS hood and TTII's at about the same time and then i saw your car and was like "yup, thats what i wanna do")
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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I personally think the TTIIs look awesome on your car. If you're going to change them, I wouldn't go for those. I think those look too busy.
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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Thanks for the input guys and everyones idea's and thoughts really make alot of sense. I want my wheels to match the style of the car...and I don't want all of the attention to just go to the wheels. I got my car lowered in October and haven't really been able to take pictures of it because it's been in storage ever since. Just by getting it lowered changed the whole appearance of the car. I wonder if anyone has ran 18 inch TTII's?
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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My future plan is to buy 18X9.5 or 18X11 rears to give my car more of raked looked. I personally like the way your car looks now but if you were going to change how about some black with a chrome lip 18 inch Z06 wheels that would look killer on your car.
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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get rid of the tt2's and get something by hre , they make some awesome wheels , or whats bout something from ccw.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 12:46 AM
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don't know who makes it but giovanna had it first. gfg f1's... ohhhh or even the versailes. that's originally the wheel i wanted first but the spokes are a bit to thin for my taste, if you like it do it! personally i'm a fan of billet wheels however TTII design is so mainstream it's everywhere and boring even in 20"+. i'd definately do something different but that's just an opinion.

these wheels, very nice...





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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 12:50 AM
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black car it looks better..
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 02:01 AM
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I went with 18's and I like it. Compared to the stock 16's, the smaller sidewall of the tires on the 18's makes a noticable differance in steering response, especially at higher speeds (100+). At first I was afraid that the smaller sidewalls would cause me to dent the wheel over potholes or uneven roads (happened to a set of 17's I had on my old truck). But the sidewalls of the tires are so stiff, I haven't had any problems with that yet.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 05:23 AM
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If you like the TT2's but want something different also, why not go for the TT2's cl 205 series in 18 inch. Keep the spokes gray or powdercoat them black. That would look awesome to me. Wish my car was black!i

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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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If you do end up trading in the torques for some 18's I'm very interested in them. just giving you some options
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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Those are Modenas, made by ROH, they look awesome! I definantly say go for them. I don't know how much they are. you have to call you get a price on them. Check out the link I will priovide and also check out the photo gallery. They have those wheels on a Ferrarie in the gallery among others.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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Don't do it!! I love those wheels on your car. Of course, I'm sort of bias on this since I should be recieving some chrome/polished TT2's within the next couple of weeks. If you must change them out though, go with 18's in the back and 17's up front. Anything bigger than 17's up front doesn't look as good in my opinion.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Anything bigger than 17's up front doesn't look as good in my opinion.
i think a few people wil have to disagree with you on that one .
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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no no no! dont get rid of them!!!!!!!!! TT2's are awesome!
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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The only thing I don't like about those wheels are the rivets or whatever you call them around the rim.

I like TT's and I never see them on the road. If you want to do the show thing though idk...

Aren't these 18in TT2's?
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 11:13 PM
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you could alwayz sell them to me
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 11:13 PM
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by camaroguy21
Don't do it!! I love those wheels on your car. Of course, I'm sort of bias on this since I should be recieving some chrome/polished TT2's within the next couple of weeks. If you must change them out though, go with 18's in the back and 17's up front. Anything bigger than 17's up front doesn't look as good in my opinion.

lol... he likes to roll uneven.

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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 05:52 AM
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Ya that will happen when your car looks like it could have 4wheel drive becuase it sits so high. When i lowered my car it dropped the front lower than the rear and gave a raked look. I plan to go with 18's rear it will just raise the rear another inch to give me more of raked look. There are a lot of custom cars now days that are running different height front and rear it can look good if done right.
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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i think a few people will have to disagree with you on that one .


I knew before I posted that statement that some people would, and that anyone running 18's or larger up front definately would. The only thing I regret is not explaining my opinion in-depth before posting it. So here goes...

Most aftermarket chrome or polished wheels will most likely look better than the ones that came stock, even if they are 18's all around. However, 18's all around will never look (IMO) as good as 17's or a 18/17 combination , even with lowering springs. An exception to this, though, would be an air ride. There comes a point with any larger wheels at which a 1-1.5in. drop cannot compensate for the car's change in appearance. In my opinion this point is reached at 18in. in the front and 19in. in the rear. The car will begin to look like more of a 4x4 and less of the muscle car that it is. There are some people out there who consider 18's too much wheel period. I only believe that this is the case in the front. Others out there, though, find 18's or even 20's attactive in a "Pimp My Ride" style kind of way. I personally love to add a little flair to these older cars, but not at the expense of eliminating its muscle car personality.

lol... he likes to roll uneven.


First off, I would like to say that I prefer 17's all around better than I do an 18/17 combo. That being said, there is absolutely nothing wrong with running two different wheel sizes (only a 1in. difference by the way) if it's done right. Otherwise you would have said so. It is done all the time by those who drag race, and there are several examples in the automotive world in which cars are sold this way stock. Thus, it makes it a matter of opinion and personal preference. You are going with 20's on your new show car. Even though this is too large by my taste (air ride factor being considered), I will not laugh or poke fun at what you think looks good. I do find the attempt ( ) at a "thumbwar" quite amusing though.
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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YEH! what he said.


Originally posted by camaroguy21


I knew before I posted that statement that some people would, and that anyone running 18's or larger up front definately would. The only thing I regret is not explaining my opinion in-depth before posting it. So here goes...

Most aftermarket chrome or polished wheels will most likely look better than the ones that came stock, even if they are 18's all around. However, 18's all around will never look (IMO) as good as 17's or a 18/17 combination , even with lowering springs. An exception to this, though, would be an air ride. There comes a point with any larger wheels at which a 1-1.5in. drop cannot compensate for the car's change in appearance. In my opinion this point is reached at 18in. in the front and 19in. in the rear. The car will begin to look like more of a 4x4 and less of the muscle car that it is. There are some people out there who consider 18's too much wheel period. I only believe that this is the case in the front. Others out there, though, find 18's or even 20's attactive in a "Pimp My Ride" style kind of way. I personally love to add a little flair to these older cars, but not at the expense of eliminating its muscle car personality.



First off, I would like to say that I prefer 17's all around better than I do an 18/17 combo. That being said, there is absolutely nothing wrong with running two different wheel sizes (only a 1in. difference by the way) if it's done right. Otherwise you would have said so. It is done all the time by those who drag race, and there are several examples in the automotive world in which cars are sold this way stock. Thus, it makes it a matter of opinion and personal preference. You are going with 20's on your new show car. Even though this is too large by my taste (air ride factor being considered), I will not laugh or poke fun at what you think looks good. I do find the attempt ( ) at a "thumbwar" quite amusing though.
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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so 84 custom whats your take on this?
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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well.....I'm still deciding. I'll probaly decide whenever it warms up around here....and who knows when that will be.
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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sorry keep, i voted to keep 'em, i like the way your car looks with the 17" TTII's...
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Do what "everyone" does in the modification mainstream, change wheels atleast once a year! Big ballin' is the only way to go. lol

By the way, I vote for a change. Only because like mentioned above, these wheels are very common among the show crowd, although they do look good IMO. If anything, atleast get wider wheels if you are buying new ones. Makes a car look meaner to me.
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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Of all the compliments I get on my car at shows, without a doubt the most frequent is:

"I'm glad you kept your stock Iroc wheels"

Now that's not to say you should go and get a set of 16" stockers, but rather that less CAN be more. Flash and bling don't necessarily draw the right kind of attention. Just like a good motor has to have parts that are matched together properly, wheels and their size need to match the car.
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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I think a set of Fikse FM5's would lokk Titz on your ride, especially in 18".

yOU DIDN'T MENTION A BUDGET IN YOUR POST, AND fIKSE WHEELS ARE EXPENSIVE, BUT THEY MAKE A LOT OF WHEELS THAT EOULD LOOK AWESOME ON YOUR CAR.

sorry for the all caps, but I'm not gonna retype it. lol.

You have to figure out the look you are going for.

If you want the clean road race look, I'd go with a set of wheels similiar to CrazyHawaiian's.

Multiple branks make a nice wheel in that semi-laced style, I think the best bang for the buck are the HP racing evos.

If you want a modern billet look, I'd say to go for some Budniks, or perhaps some Boyd of Foose wheels..
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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I did too until I got a quote for over $3K JUST for wheels in my desired size. That is a turn off for a broke *** college student living at home still. Not to mention that is more than what 50% of 3rdgens sell for now. I was expecting bad, but not that bad. Those wheels are by far one of the best looking wheels though, to me. Seen them once on an 82ish camaro from TX on these boards. Blue one with silver gfx. His car should be on Fiske's site.
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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I have a pic of that car but didn't feel like re-sizing it

....it's also in a camaro book I have.
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 06:02 AM
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84customz28 what is your sizes on your current wheels. thinking of switching to 17s.
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 06:12 AM
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you mean this car he hangs around plano which is the town next to the one i live in. He goes to a lot of the local GTG's. Also here is his cardomain site hes got a lot more pictures there. http://camaroz28.cardomain.com/id/z28ho

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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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I say sure - if you want something else, go for it!
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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hey ken what rims did you decide to get then.
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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Yeah, that is the car. Pretty nice. I believe they also made a toy car, like a Hot Wheels after that thing. Pretty clean car.
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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Yup he has his own hotwheels edition. Also made it into books,magazines and tech articles.
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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How about some intro v"Vrod" rims I think they look kinda slick tooo.

Just throwing out some ideas. Just a real quick photoshop.
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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I wouldnt consider a wheel/tire combo too big for the car unless it was not possible to maintain overall OEM dimensions. For example, on my 18's I went with 35 and 40 series tires (depending on widths) and was able to maintain very close to overall OEM dimensions (within 1%). Now if you were running huge rims like 20's, you might be on that line of "too big for the car." But hey who knows, some people might not care about maintaining OEM dimensions, you know, take it to the next level and stuff, mod the car to fit bigger than OEM dimensions wheels. Depends on how extreme they wanna get. But dont mix this up with what camaroguy21 was talking about, wheels being too big for personal taste, in which case there is no right or wrong. Cant argue that one. To each his own.

Another thing to keep in mind is a good point camaroguy21 kinda made, as the diameter of the wheel increases, and the sidewall decreases, the appearance of the overall wheel in relation to the fenderwells changes. To maintain a proportional look, you need to lower the car more when it has smaller sidewalls. If you get a bigger wheel, smaller sidewalls, but leave it stock height, it will appear that the car sits too high even though that might not be the case. I think 84customZ28's car is already lowered, but if he does go with 18's, this might be something to consider. You also have to consider that this relates to personal taste, so its inevitable that different people will have different opinions on what looks proportional and what dosnt. I had sportlines with 17's running 40 and 45 series tires and I still thought it sat too high. *shrug* Now I'm running 18's with 35 and 40 series rubber, and somewhere around a 3" drop or something and it satisfied my desire for the "roadracing" stance (with performance to match). To give an example of this relationship (wheel size, sidewall size, fenderwell gap), here is a pic of the front of my 91 Z28 w/ 18's when it still had Eibach Sportlines in the front. With the stock wheels and fatter sidewalls, the sportline drop looks very low (1.8" drop). But with the bigger wheel and smaller sidewall, it appears to sit somewhat higher. Its an illusion ...



Guess it comes down to what kind of look you're going for and how far you're willing to go to get it ...




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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by KonArtist
How about some intro v"Vrod" rims I think they look kinda slick tooo.

Just throwing out some ideas. Just a real quick photoshop.
I really like the style of those
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 12:23 AM
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I think 84customZ28's car is already lowered
yeah...I got it lowered last October...and it's been in the garage ever since. I haven't even had a chance to get the car out to even look at it with the new stance. I only took a few pictures before I put it up for winter.

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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by f355bird
Ya that will happen when your car looks like it could have 4wheel drive becuase it sits so high. When i lowered my car it dropped the front lower than the rear and gave a raked look. I plan to go with 18's rear it will just raise the rear another inch to give me more of raked look. There are a lot of custom cars now days that are running different height front and rear it can look good if done right.
these cars have bodies built for it. they have radical frame modifications to fit the larger offsets and things are designed basically around the rim. it would take alot of work to make a thirdgen look like that and the rake look is not as great as it's made out to be however if that's what you are going for then you'll definately want it raked to an extent of at least 1" difference to compensate and then it will still look like the picture i posted above while rolling down the road. visual appearance is everything, hense why someone even thinks about purchasing new wheels in most cases. you should always go for the look that appeals to you, just understand the not so publicized results.

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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by camaroguy21


I knew before I posted that statement that some people would, and that anyone running 18's or larger up front definately would. The only thing I regret is not explaining my opinion in-depth before posting it. So here goes...

Most aftermarket chrome or polished wheels will most likely look better than the ones that came stock, even if they are 18's all around. However, 18's all around will never look (IMO) as good as 17's or a 18/17 combination , even with lowering springs. An exception to this, though, would be an air ride. There comes a point with any larger wheels at which a 1-1.5in. drop cannot compensate for the car's change in appearance. In my opinion this point is reached at 18in. in the front and 19in. in the rear. The car will begin to look like more of a 4x4 and less of the muscle car that it is. There are some people out there who consider 18's too much wheel period. I only believe that this is the case in the front. Others out there, though, find 18's or even 20's attactive in a "Pimp My Ride" style kind of way. I personally love to add a little flair to these older cars, but not at the expense of eliminating its muscle car personality.



First off, I would like to say that I prefer 17's all around better than I do an 18/17 combo. That being said, there is absolutely nothing wrong with running two different wheel sizes (only a 1in. difference by the way) if it's done right. Otherwise you would have said so. It is done all the time by those who drag race, and there are several examples in the automotive world in which cars are sold this way stock. Thus, it makes it a matter of opinion and personal preference. You are going with 20's on your new show car. Even though this is too large by my taste (air ride factor being considered), I will not laugh or poke fun at what you think looks good. I do find the attempt ( ) at a "thumbwar" quite amusing though.

lol... rummors are rummors and the difference between show and street is just that. reguardless these vehicles that you describe are sold with such offsets in rim sizes and beyond have bodies built for them. the c5 corvette is a perfect example. study the lines, it works because it was designed as such and the same goes for a c6. they didn't do it to give it a radical look or perform in a certain matter. it's the style of the body and in such requires different modifications which intail variations in wheel sizes. the only thing 18" or larger will do is slow you down, no doubt about it. they look nice to some people but in all truthfullness they are extremely heavy when rotational weight is observed. however many people will sacrifice this to get a certain look, myself being one of them. now with that said no one is poking fun at anyone for liking something however if you actually stood back and looked at the setup on thirdgen in person many who own a 17/18 or similar combo often regret it down the road as it does not fit the lines of the car. that's why i post it... not because it's a performance negative or i don't personally like it. if someone could show me a 17/18 combo or similar setup that worked well with a thirdgen then i'd be all for it but the only way possible would require extensive body modifications.

which would include one of these for the effort...

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Originally posted by Abubaca
Of all the compliments I get on my car at shows, without a doubt the most frequent is:

"I'm glad you kept your stock Iroc wheels"

Now that's not to say you should go and get a set of 16" stockers, but rather that less CAN be more. Flash and bling don't necessarily draw the right kind of attention. Just like a good motor has to have parts that are matched together properly, wheels and their size need to match the car.
this depends on way to many factors. first of all age has a huge contributing factor for the most part, next is overall build and style. you can't just throw any rim on a car and have it look good. a 15" drag setup can look much better then an improper 18" or even 17" wheel. it's all on how you approach it.

lastly the show environment will appeal to this as well. when i had chrome 16" z28 factory wheels everyone over 30 loved it. i couldn't get attention from anyone under 25 with the car but i was also attending classic cars and local events. although it added some shine to a classic design and while not going too trendy i couldn't even consider being in a magazine, making a calendar or getting a sponsor with those wheels as it wasn't the "now" thing. alot of it had to do with the trends and what was new but even looking back at my older pictures the car just didn't stand out. some people don't like their car to stand out while others do. it's a difference of opinion which makes everyones car different and the hobby interesting.

for me it wasn't achieving what i wanted so that's why i switched and went larger. some do it for performance, everyone has their own motives. i use to have a set of 16's that i would usually daily drive with just because the weight difference drove me crazy but the amount of looks, stares and compliments couldn't compare with them. so many people are into the apperance nowdays that it's a driving force, don't let it be yours. pick your wheels to suit your style.

wheels are extremely imporant to the overall build and feel of a car. you can take a standard mount double lip billet wheel in a 17" and it almost looks 18. take the same wheel in a flat face setup and with the right tire it will definately look 18" or even larger. a good example were my 18" z06 wheels which almost looked 19" and overpowered the visual apperance of the car. my 18" boze reverse mount wheels look smaller because of the depth using the fat rolled reverse mount causing a 4" lip giving off an illusion of a smaller wheel. everything is an illusion. a good builder will setup the car to properly display as such.

one person may like 17's, some want 15's and the next guy coming up want's 20's. they all can have their advantages and all definately have disadvantages. ever look through your local classifieds, more 20"+ sizes out there in the used section then anything and alot has to do with the practicle use of them. they just aren't practicle, that doesn't mean that someone else won't go out and buy them learning for themselves. the one thing all wheels have in common is their build characteristic, if you don't follow it and plan right it won't matter what size you choose. your wheels are as important as your paint and everything else. the wrong choice can make or break it. in the end if you stick to what you truly want you'll be happier.

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