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when i wax the car the rag for the wax is the color of my car????

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Old May 26, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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when i wax the car the rag for the wax is the color of my car????

is it a cheap paint job or bad wax? (nu finish wax) it still shines beatiful. and if i dont rub the wax off right away it will leave swerls that dont want to come out.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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Did you have the paint done or prior owner?

You dont want to see much paint on the cloth (none really)... might be cheap, non-clearcoated paint.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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If the paint is old, this will happen. Or is you were fortunate enough to have your car painted at Van Neuys in the late 80's and early 90's you'll just get giant flakes of your paint in your rag.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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its not flacks just the color of the car . so you dont think it is the wax?
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Old May 26, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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thye paint isn't dull or any thing . if the other owner had it painted he had it paited from head to toe.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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Try a different wax and see what happens.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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do you have any suggestions on a good wax?
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Old May 26, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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im strict with mothers... you should first use the 3 step process than juss use pure wax after that
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Old May 26, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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Meguiars Liquid Gold Class has done pretty well for me. I'm guessing the Nu Finish is a cleaner wax, which is why you're getting the paint color in it, but I don't know for sure.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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You have a non clear coat finish on your car. Period, end of mystery. People with clear coat have the exact same situation, except the crap on their rag is clear so they don't see it!

Virtually all waxes are mildly abrasive. That's why they can make dull paint shine... it's mild abrasives remove the crap on the top layer of paint. Oxidation, dirt, etc gets removed with the abrasive, leaving nice paint. This is also removing a very small amount of your paint, which is what's making your rag turn color.

Once you have your paint looking good, you can switch to a non-abrasive polish. They're hard to find at auto parts stores, but they're out there. The upper end maguires and Mothers stuff should have a pure carnuba line (hint: Pure carnuba is a solid, so if it's in a squirt bottle, it's not pure carnuba!). There are also non abrasive synthetics like Zaino, which I use. I'm very happy with the zaino, although any other non-abrasive product will work great too.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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thanks for the info. so in the future my paint will dull? where can i buy that zaino?
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Old May 31, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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its not BC/CC its a single stage paint.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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I had the same issue with my paint and yes my paint is very old and the clear coat is almost gone in some spots. A few years ago when I found paint coming off on the rag like you saw the paint really didnt look that bad. But yea, that was a few years ago. The way my paint looks now just might be the future of your paint! I say, save up now and plan to drop about 3Gs into your new paintjob before it starts looking like mine. Oh and I dont suggest macco, ever.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by redbird_400
I had the same issue with my paint and yes my paint is very old and the clear coat is almost gone in some spots. A few years ago when I found paint coming off on the rag like you saw the paint really didnt look that bad. But yea, that was a few years ago. The way my paint looks now just might be the future of your paint! I say, save up now and plan to drop about 3Gs into your new paintjob before it starts looking like mine. Oh and I dont suggest macco, ever.
I do suggest maaco if you are willing to keep up on taking care of your paint (i do mcguires 3 stage every 2 weeks, wax every week)... ive had it for almost a year and it still looks just as good as the day that i got it back... you can look at my page... maaco is not bad unless your very particular about minor imperfections... and if you get maaco do all the prep work yourself including taping EVERYTHING
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