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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 03:39 AM
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Possibly a bit extreme, but...

I'm thinking of doing this to my car...




I know it's a bit overboard, but I think it looks damn sexy.

Thoughts, Ideas, Opinions?



edit: That's not my car--I'm shamelessly using another members car...
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 03:52 AM
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now how do you plan on getting in?
pg
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 03:54 AM
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Power windows (with new motors) with remote control to lower...

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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 03:58 AM
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if all else fails, pop the trunk (with remote) and crawl it...

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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:01 AM
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im sorry but i cant hold back, thats a PG idea man....
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:04 AM
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PG ??

Pretty gay? Pretty ghetto?


Pretty great?
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:07 AM
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i'm on to you, youre not on to me!
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:10 AM
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I guess not... so please be so kind as to inform me of my shortcomings. (not highly familiar with messageboard lingo)
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:34 AM
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i have a deal, you tell me what that jibbersh was that u posted in another topic, and i will tell you what PG means

u can PM me, im not a snitch
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:42 AM
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ok, since you're putting it that way, obviously we have been insulting each other. Let's leave it at that, and move on... Hopefully we can be more civil towards each other in the future.

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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:43 AM
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now your making me look bad...pg means pretty good
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:50 AM
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I'm an

My bad... I obviously misinterpreted a previous post!

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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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I dare you to try that. Every seam that you seal up with body filler will crack in a matter of minutes when you start driving the car. Can't forget the amount of flex our cars have
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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I dare you to try that. Every seam that you seal up with body filler will crack in a matter of minutes when you start driving the car. Can't forget the amount of flex our cars have
I agree. You can weld the door seam but the front and rear fascias will be a pain. It can be done though, just takes a lot of work.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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Bad idea for a daily driver, but I like the look. When I take my 91Z to the bodyshop for the next round of mods I'm gonna get the front end molded as well as the sideskirts and rear bumper. It'll crack the seams if you hit something or the unibody flexes hard enough but if its done right it should not be cracking because of vibration. I personally know guys that have had their GFX molded and it was OK for daily driving.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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i think it looks good with the seems.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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well every party needs a party pooper, thats why I am here. That image at the top is as fake as a $3 bill. Look at the GFX, they are blurred where the seams would be, total photoshop job.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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Well it looks nice but i have one fall back that came to mind. You said you would replace the window motors then do it, thats fine and all, but if yo plan on keeping the car for any extended time, having to roll the windows up and down all the time those motors are going to go out sooner. Now that your door is sealed shut, your going to have a fun time replaceing that motor again. Just something i thought of, the car looks sweet with out seams though hehe.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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So in an effort to smooth the body lines, you're going to take the car to the ridiculous extremes of eliminating the doors, but you're still going to keep the fake heat extractor fender vents?

Keep the doors, lose the vents.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by matt3383
Well it looks nice but i have one fall back that came to mind. You said you would replace the window motors then do it, thats fine and all, but if yo plan on keeping the car for any extended time, having to roll the windows up and down all the time those motors are going to go out sooner. Now that your door is sealed shut, your going to have a fun time replaceing that motor again. Just something i thought of, the car looks sweet with out seams though hehe.
...well, he would roll it down when he got in.. yep, im pretty sure i do that everytime i get in my car... every day... to me, thats just normal usage... he would just be rolling them down before he got in instead.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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yeah i guess thats true. Does it put more wear on the motor to be run at lower voltages? I know that my windows run slower when the car is off. i doubt it does but something else i thought of lol.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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yah, mine go slower too when the car is off too... remote start?
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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i think it looks good with the seems.
Ditto.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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I dare you to try that. Every seam that you seal up with body filler will crack in a matter of minutes when you start driving the car. Can't forget the amount of flex our cars have

Well I was going to weld everything metal, and possibly make new, single piece GFXs... Would try to stay away from bondo or other fillers as much as possible..


well every party needs a party pooper, thats why I am here. That image at the top is as fake as a $3 bill. Look at the GFX, they are blurred where the seams would be, total photoshop job.

Yes, thanks for the poop. Feel better now? I don't remember trying to sell it as a real car... It's obviously photochopped. Took me all of 10 minutes to do.


So in an effort to smooth the body lines, you're going to take the car to the ridiculous extremes of eliminating the doors, but you're still going to keep the fake heat extractor fender vents?

Very good point there. Maybe I should look into removing them as well. However, living in good ole' CA, I don't know that they are entirely useless. If anything they can be made functional. It gets freaking hot in the wheel well, especially after mountain runs...


I know it's a bit extreme. But like I said, I think it looks #@$%@#^ good, and it would more likely than not be a weekend/cruiser car, if I take it to these great lengths.

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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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I can't argue with the fact that it looks good. But the sex appeal would plummit as soon as you start crawling in through the hatch. Great for a show car. But not a very good idea if it's your daily driver. Also, if you were to get in an accident or something, and you needed to get out of the car quickly, you may be in trouble...
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by ScottyRS
I can't argue with the fact that it looks good. But the sex appeal would plummit as soon as you start crawling in through the hatch. Great for a show car. But not a very good idea if it's your daily driver. Also, if you were to get in an accident or something, and you needed to get out of the car quickly, you may be in trouble...

Yeah, as much as I would like it to be, I don't think it could be my daily driver. If I got into an accident though they wouldn't hesitate to just smashy smashy and grab...

Maybe I should start out with shaved handles and lock...?
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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that's much more feasible and livable than the first extreme version. go for it!
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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your idea of removing the doors is rediculous. Forget about EVER having any passengers especially girls in your car. If you even attempted this you would crawl back here and tell us. I ruined my car....Please dont hack up a nice thirdgen like this.....
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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I think getting in and out Hazzard County style would get pretty F'ing old. Would your girlfriend/wife like riding knowing she has to climb through the window? If this were a race car that would be cool but its not so whats the point? Smooth sides? You could keep the doors and take all that time and effort doing good upgrades. Just an opinion.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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Whenever I park my car in the garage, I have to get in and out that way... I've been doing it every day for 5 years now...

I realize that my fiance would get tired of jumping in and out of it all the time, hence my reason for making it a weekend cruiser, semi-show car.

If I would go to these extremes, it would no longer be my daily driver.

I have 5+ years of fiberglass experience, and my father has 30-35 years of welding and bodywork experience. I think we could do it without ruining a car that is currently valued at a whopping $500...

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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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Whenever I park my car in the garage, I have to get in and out that way... I've been doing it every day for 5 years now...



why do u have to get out of ur car that way?
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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Probably because the doors wont open cause the garage is small and the thought of pushing it in the garage would suck. Am I right???
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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here in pittsburgh, some guy down the street from has done that... i dont like camaros with shaved wings ...... its just rounded from the hatch to the rear bumper...
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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Yes, the garage is too small for my car, but I'd rather have it in there and be slightly inconvenienced getting in and out of it than have punks try to mess it up, even if it might not be show quality right now...

On the way over to school it just occurred to me that it might not be legal to do that to a street legal car here in CA...
I might have spoken too soon and no longer have a reason to sell my idea to you guys...

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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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Our power window motors have enough trouble......

Yes, some people use them just as often, but the difference is, when you use them every day and they go out, it's just an inconvenience.

When you use them and its the way you get into your car............
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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hahaha.... good point
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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i think it looks good with the seems.
Ditto here...
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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That would be pretty extreme. Id hate to think of the hundreds of man hours to make it like that decently.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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I'd love it for a race car...I'm fairly thin & limber & I know I'd scratch my paint job all to hell in no time at all...
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by ddn69
your idea of removing the doors is rediculous. Forget about EVER having any passengers especially girls in your car. If you even attempted this you would crawl back here and tell us. I ruined my car....Please dont hack up a nice thirdgen like this.....
Daisy duke climbed in and out of the general lee.
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 12:53 AM
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At Wisc. Dells I saw a second gen that 'shaved' the doors off.. Had t-tops so thats how the guy got in and out, didnt look bad at all.
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