Ramair21

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there isnt a way around cutting. I tried my very very best to not cut so much. but i had to in order to get the lights to fit they do now. I could of cut much more but felt like this was good enough. Cutting is something you have to do with these headlights.

A write up would be a novel to do. You just got to jump right into it. I will be more than happy to help out. But its a very very risky mod. You could spend thousand if you mess up. LOL

mos68x

Thanks for that info. Well can you take better close up pictures of the parts that you cut? Perhaps with the headlight removed if it is easy to remove? Did you take out only what you had to with a die grinder? Or did you use a cut-off wheel and just lop parts off?

Thanks

bvahnee

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If I fly you to Massachusetts will you do the mod for me

On a more serious note very nice job, future mod on my 91 for sure.

mos68x

Yeah I'm gonna have to side with that, this will become a necessary mod...however to include some sort of stiffening of the front end after I complete it.

Jim85IROC

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Ramair21, do you have any pics of the covers that you said you made that cover the top of the headlights and hide the core support cuts?

I'm real close to pulling the trigger on a set of lights.

DeathMetalTony

Are those headlights expensive to buy?

Thanks. Tony.

transam85dudeman

I like the light install, good touch for Camaro. Heres a E39 pic (BMW), too bad it wont work with in a T/A

Ramair21

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I wouldnt mind flying to Massachusetts. I want to see my boy Mr. Brown! LOL

Jim, I do have picturs of the front covers. I just got to download them from my phone.

The headlights are about $250 off ebay. Plus you have to get the angel eyes from another company. They have great stuff. Plus make your own wire harness in order to make the lights work with our setup

mos68x

That is because most of the time they are true HID's.

Speaking of which Ramair, did yours come with the ballast's? or do they use standard bulbs? I looked at one of them listed in ebay and noticed they were using 9006 and 9007 connectors.

Jim85IROC

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This is what I'm running into. It seems that all of these aftermarket lights are designed to use a halogen even in the low beam projector. A lot of these places offer true HID upgrades, but it just doesn't seem that the projector is specifically made for HID, so who the hell knows how good it's going to be?

I'm having a hell of a time deciding just what I want to go with here.

DeathMetalTony

Hey,

What do you mean that I would need the angel headlight from another company? I thought the halo's came stock with the headlights. Now im confused.

Tony.

BlackTopKing

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That has to be by far the best healight swap i have ever seen on the 3rd Gen Camaro's and I have to say the final install very professional looking great attention to detail and great job....look killer

Jim85IROC

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I've been talking with a guy that sells these lights, and who is very familiar with them. I sent him pics from this thread. He thinks there's enough dead space at the back of the headlight housings that I could cut that space away, and get these to fit without touching the core support.

Stay tuned.

Update. This is a pic of the back of the light with the cover off. According to the guy I'm talking with, they retro-fit these into Maximas and cut a LOT of the housing away. He feels that much less of the housing would need to be cut for this install.


Here's a better pic that shows the back of one of these housings with the cover off:


Here's a heavily modified e36 setup to fit into a maxima. From what I can tell, this has the e36 innards behind the maxima lense and with some different backing pieces. If anything, it makes me more sure that I can modify the housing to fit.

Ramair21

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i never thought about cutting the extra plastic off. That makes a lot more sense to do it that way. If that is the case you wont need to cut the support as much as i did. great looking out Jim

mos68x

From what I see here in your pics these are NOT HID's, they are just 9006/9007 bulbs. So if I wanted to upgrade these beyond this I'd still have to find a Bi-Xenon HID kit to upgrade the light output.

RamAir, I'm sure that you've taken your car out at night already so how much do you think the light output has increased just by changing to these headlight housings?

transam85dudeman

i read theres a simple mod one can do to upgrade to H.D without buying the upgrade kit, bmw owners do it all the time. http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?p=8222169

DeathMetalTony

Theres shop out here in the LA County are I believe that sells the germany made headlights you know with the glass instead of plastic like US ones. Anyways and they come equiped with the halo's as well and you could also get them in different colors too. I called yesterday and they also told me that they come with bulb's and the HID's as well for $350 sound kinda high though not sure.

http://www.myspace.com/europeanvision

Tony.

Jim85IROC

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You can buy these housings with the HID upgrade already done. The kits come with the HID Xenon bulbs already installed, and comes with ballasts. The one drawback is that you're still using the cheap pseudo-HID projector that comes with these lights.

Some guys are actually taking the HID projector from other headlamp assemblies and retro-fitting them into these assemblies with minimal modification.

I may try doing this in stages. My guess is that even with the H1s that come with these lights, the output should be superior to our sealed beams. I can then upgrade to the HID bulbs, and if I still feel I need to do more, I can retrofit a set of HID projectors in place of the ones that come on these lights.

406TPI

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I'm glad to see this is getting some legs. I'd like to do it myself I just don't have the time to mess around with it these days. Good luck to you guys!

86TA4SALE

Great job. That is the best Camaro mod I've seen. We definitely need a cool firebird one now.

~Matt

Jim85IROC

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I just pulled the trigger on the lights, the angel eyes and HID ballasts & bulbs. This is going to be an expensive experiment.

FSTFBDY

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Should turn out great jim. your projects always seem to come out good.
Deff. toss up a post of your own so I can follow your work. Im wanting to do this to my vert.

P.S. I picked up a pre-90 gauge bezel and am gonna work up some trim rings.

Ramair21

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yes it is. I wasnt able to get my lights to adjust the way i wanted them. But i able to see at night. thats all that matters. Good luck with the build Jim

mos68x

Any suggestions on how to make it adjust better? Or is it just where you have the mounts that is fooling with your headlights aiming?

mos68x

I hope that you do a thread of your own and with a tons of good pics. I really want to do this, but I would like to see how and where everyone is cutting and such before I get to it.

transam85dudeman

adjustments for bimmer lights, http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=893721 btw on these cars, the head light always stay level with a servo/solenoid. theres two adjustment mounts each side. two are static adjusters and a third moving mount is a servo that tilts the light up and down.. For example if you go up a hill, the lights stays on the road instead on the air, going down the hill the lights point forward ahead instead of the road.

ThePain

This is getting REALLY interesting now that we could potentially just cut the light housing.

I'm watching this!

KITT1983

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awesome BMW E36 set up dude

are you running any hids ?

Ramair21

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they way i mounted the headlight is causing this issue. I dont think there is a way around this cause the head light itself is not straight. Its more of a curved to it. So dont expect awesome results. But it works

No HID just H1 bulbs. HID are in the near future. I just love the angle eyes LOL

DeathMetalTony

Hey Ramair21,

Tell me about the halo's are one of the coolest ideas that bmw has done for their head lights. In the link I have posted above that company also installs halo's and they have them in different colors as well. I though about it if I would go with this converstion I would go with the red halo's like that black out ss 5th gen maro.







Tony.

xbox07

I'd kill for a set of those head lights with red halos on my camaro

DeathMetalTony

Hell yea!

Tony.

Ramair21

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Ive seen a Red BMW with red halos. It wasnt my taste at all. to much red lol. They do sell halos that change colors but are expensive really expensive

M G Brewer

need some pics with the hood up so we all can see the detail there and copy off of your genious idea. thanks for thinking outside the box. makes the 3rd gen look million times better and looks a lot newer of a car than what it rly is.

KITT1983

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so how much did the BMW project run you? yes angel eyes are awesome

do you have any driving videos

Ramair21

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No driving vids yet. But the project cost around 300-400. Something like that LOL and a new pair of ***** LOL

capedcadaver

o hay.... someone found my photobucket.

yea, those are depo E36 lights (entirely different from the ones you posted above it) with a stock 89-94 (also 3rd gen, heh) Maxima corner lamp bondo'd onto it, and a wade cover bondo'd over the whole thing. It's a H7 halogen projector and i forget what the highbeam bulb is (H1? 9005 maybe? i dunno). sadly the projector bowls were all bubbled up so output was HORRIBLE. I never actually put them on my car because of that.

however the projector modules just pop out (heat up the glue with a heat gun, 4 screws holding it on) so you could put in a HID-spec projector in its place with relative ease.

Jim85IROC

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Good to know! Thanks for that information. Welcome to the forum.

capedcadaver

thanks. I don't drive the car those were intended for anymore... but I do have an 85 300zx (looks kindasorta like an F-body from the side 100ft away haha) but it's getting an LS1/T56 next year so i guess i'm not a total outsider.

for it i'm using a 7x6 ebay sealed-beam-replacement housing with a Hella E55 bixenon projector and 5000k d2s HID bulbs. what size are the stock sealed beam units on your cars?

Jim85IROC

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4x6.5", but they're usually referred to as 4x6".

RSFreak

Ramair21, you have one of the best looking 3rdgens I've ever seen! Great job with the BMW lights! I have always wondered how I would go about putting angel eyes on my Camaro. I gotta do this mod! Thanks for doing the leg work!

Ramair21

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Thanks RsFreak!! You dont have a bad ride yourself man!

RSFreak

Thanks Man! My T/A will be MUCH nicer if I ever finish it!

red/white04

ordered mine yesterday... YAY!!!

Jim85IROC

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What did you wind up ordering? I decided on the Depo IV with the HID upgrade and Orion V2 angel eyes. I bought mine through bavtoys... great guy to deal with. He answered all of my dumb questions prior to my order!

red/white04

lol i ordered the same thing..off of ebay

Jim85IROC

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Cool. I hadn't seen quite that setup on Ebay... most seemed to be different angel eyes and no HID.

matthufham

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im about 2 shakes from buying these. i want the black set in link 1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-93...item518f6cc084

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

both show to use halogens, i'm thinking 9005/9006. however i don't see headlight sockets??? how does bmw power the bulbs? i see a connector for the corner light, and one to go to the harness, and wiring to work the halos. is the bulb harness separate in a bmw?

Ramair21

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those are not the EURO style lights. Those are the Cheap USA ones. No projection. just regular lights. Your choice but i would not get those. I mean those would fit in perfect without really any cutting of the car but wont look as good as the EURO DEPO lights.

matthufham

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i actually prefer the halogen look over projectors, projectors look like bug eyes to me. plus light output isn't a big deal because i live in the city and actually it is an upgrade from stock. so tomorrow i think i'm going to get the black ones and i'll have a little install session with pics for yall.