So the nominations have been racking up for first two weeks of the month, so its time to VOTE in our Februrary Car Of The Month winner!!!!

This month there was only 7 cars that received more than one nomination to be moved into the poll.

Neil


Irocbirdbuilder


Wanab03ss


Sickness91Z28


Ramair21


Fandreous


1meanz


*** FYI ***
- This will be the last COTM page that I will be setting up. This thread never had full site approval/support, so the method I used has been deemed insufficent to provide for all types of thirdgens. This has been a fun popularity contest... I seriously have enjoyed helping make an attempt at making this site a little more fun.
- There is a Car Of The Month here on TGO in the works, so hopefully here in the near future everyone will get to see some more of these fine examples of amazing thirdgens!

See ya on the boards! Happy voting!
Brandon

 

I'm kind of disappointed there was only one Firebird nominated.

 

X2...but in all honesty, I don't remember seeing any birds that had anywhere near the time and effort that some of those camaros have into them. I am a bird fan personally, but I have to give credit to a few of those camaro owners...gorgeous cars!

 

extremely tough decision with this month's poll.

 

There was actually 2 nominated, but only one that received more than 1 nomination.

I actually would have really loved for people to dig up some of the really stunning examples of birds on here... There is so many nice cars that fall off the map around here. Hopefully the next COTM will take care of everyone.

 

Going forward, I think I'd like to see the rules state that you have to own the car still if yours is going to nominated. This keeps it relevant and more positive for the people wanting a chance in the spotlight with their own car. I know there are other forums that have a cotm and they require that the user still own the car to be in the polls.

 

I give my props to brandon for trying to get this/keep it going. I've watched these for a little and its pretty sad to see the fighting he has had to deal with in trying to get it working. Things will change as it progresses i'm sure and will eventually smooth out if everyone would quit putting up a hassle about it. For 4 years i have watched the ride of the month run flawlessly over on the cummins forum, need to get it rolling here also.

 

thier all winner's in my book but I gotta go Ramair21

 

Thanks for doing this Brandon.

 

Wow, all great looking cars. Got to go with that evil looking black Z.

 

 

NEIL HAS A 454 LSX BY THE WAY!

 

I fixed it for you.

 

Awe....

 

The car was cut up into little bitty pieces. I have read he's building another one, but the blue car pictured (as has been mentioned many times previously) is no longer in existence.

 

That just ruined my day. Thanks man.

 

So what all is done to ramair21's car? I see a lot of votes going his way, but I've never seen his build.

 

It looks really nice. I think he's got an LT1. Not sure though. I'm pretty sure its not an L98

 

it has the special california section special "vote for this car thread" mod

- nice car not knocking it at all, just answering someone's question

 

Hes got an LS1. It on his profile. You didn't look very hard BlueZ. He's running 12's in the 1/4 too.

 

Lol I got some good buddies supporting me my build has been spread around. Look on my sig and that will say it all

 

Well you can see he has BMW headlights with halos.
He has the SS style hood as you can see.
He has air ride/bags on it. not quite sure what manufacturer.
Tuned LS1 with some bolt ons runs pretty deep in the 12's w/4L60e
4th gen seats
Has a 4th gen camaro instrument cluster installed
stereo etc.
upgraded brakes and wheels
and other stuff.

ugh dang it i started typing this before he posted!! and i got sidetracked. haha.

 

You know my car better than i do Anthony LOL, thanks for looking out!

 

Although thats true, its still a nice ride. Like I said, this month is a tough one for sure.

 

There will be plenty of months for these other beautiful 3rd gens to win.

 

yep just remember to renominate them!!

 

wish this would go on, i really enjoyed this, even though the guy i nominated only got my vote but it was nice coming here seeing all the cars that got nominated. sad to see it go, wish JT would lighten up alittle and allow some of thse little things

 

I've not disallowed a "COTM" and have publicly posted as wanting to atleast trial it.

The only concerns that I've stated is that I feel it's best to have a little more variety to showcase the best of the best ThirdGens. So far, there's only been like 2 or so Firebirds in the nominations! Additionally, the majority are also aftermarket/modified ThirdGens. There has been a few other members that have noted this as well.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with aftermarket/modified ThirdGens and Spike-Z having won January's COTM. My only concern is that there needs to be more variety (Firebirds and stock/low mileage/mint ThirdGens) to help more represent ThirdGen.org.

If it's always going to be modified Camaros, then that's just representing a part of ThirdGen.org and it will get old quickly to those who prefer stock/low mileage/mint ThirdGens and Firebirds. That's been my biggest concern and I was hoping to see some plans and ideas incorporated that gave other mint/low mileage/stock ThirdGens the opportunity to be showcased as well.

 

Well I gotta know about the car for Bullrun remember? haha...that reminds I gotta check to see if they are taking applications yet!

 

 

Please see my response above:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/post...65-post28.html

I don't think the "COTM" has been cancelled, atleast not to me. I have not disallowed a "COTM". I only expressed some concerns and provide some feedback to ensure that we try to also showcase other ThirdGen cars that are also deserving (Firebirds, stock/mint/low mileage ThirdGens). It appears to me that Firebirds, and stock/mint/low mileage ThirdGens, may not be the most popular amongst those here in the Appearance and Detailing forum as those two categories barely got any mention in the past two rounds. Even a few members had noted this trend. I believe it's only fair that other deserving ThirdGens get some showcase time as well.

As far as I'm concerned, the "COTM" is not cancelled and something will be worked out as long as we're all willing to make it work.

 

Honestly i was on my lunch break at work, on my phone. I wasn't going to spend any time looking.

 

very well deserving car trust me. ive seen it in person!

 

I bet some of the other nominations would have received more votes if people made a "Vote for ______ cotm" thread too. I'm not knocking ramair21's car, it is nice. I'm just thinking the point of the COTM is to not have a popularity contest, but to get the nicest cars the most votes. Making threads that say stuff like Californians have to unite and all vote for the same person is kind of against what we're going for here, don't you think?

I guess what my point is, if the car is deserving of COTM, it shouldn't have to have rally threads started to drum up votes.

 

Can I get an AMEN, brother!

 

I'm suprised COTM made it this far. I think its a neat idea buuut in the end its tuff to do. I'm sure a LOT of people haven't ever or rarely posted pix of their cars at all.

 

The car I nominated last month doesn't have any good pictures of the exterior of the car, mostly pictures of the engine swap.

 

Not everyone from the california section voted for his car. otherwise he'd have a lot more votes. not all of us make it on here everyday. or make it to the auto detailing section of the site everyday or week for that matter. I know its been awhile since i posted anything in this area. it was mainly made to know that thier was a voting going on. Didnt do anything wrong. Anybody else could have made a thread in thier region for the same thing.

 

Yea but you're missing the point, a real cotm winner shouldn't need "vote for this car" threads, it should get the most votes because the most people like it, not because of some geographical loyalty

 

Haaa, that's how the Interw3b works folks. Take it or leave it.

Nobody is going to vote for a "piece", just out of loyalty. There are 2 large and different regional boards just for California alone. If it was some giant rally he would have 100's of votes. A handful of voters that know the car and aren't aware of this COTM thread doesn't seem to be out of sorts.

I do agree that separate stock / modified polls would be great though in the future since this will carry on apparently.

 

I'll probably just stay outta this one haha

I have no idea why it's so hard to make this happen..or why there should be certain rules. There are TONS of websites that have COTM sections! There isn't seperate categories.....

We as members decide who gets nominated and we as member decides who wins COTM. Pretty much as simple as that. We all have third gens here...whether it be a firebird or a camaro....whether they are modified or stock...they are STILL THIRD GENS.

Ok...I'm done

BTW...I have to agree with Nick on what he's sayin'

 

I agree... With the minimal amount of votes in the first place (75 or so as I'm typing this), a thread asking for votes on a particular car makes a big difference. It is a beautiful car, don't get me wrong, but all votes should be without any help to truly matter. Maybe to get more members involved, we could put a banner up on the main page reminding people when COTM time rolls around so they know where to vote.

I also don't know how many mods thirdgen.org actually has, but everytime I see one post, it's one thats been around for a long time. Any thoughts of getting a few more mods up around here? With a forum that has the member base that this one has, I think more mods is always a good thing. Then the load can be spread out a bit more, and could make something like an official COTM section easier to set up. I visit this site AT LEAST twice a day ussually, and I know a few of the other "regulars" would make good mods as well. Just throwing it out there. I'd be up for the task.

And to be fair, I think the only way a stock mint car would have a fair shot would be to have a seperate category for stock as opposed to modded cars. I for one respect a clean stock 3rd gen, but COTM to me means someone who has created an image of themself in thier car, and made personal changes to it that reflect them. Thats what truly makes a car stand out for something like COTM. Plus, with the very rare amount of clean stock ones out there, I think we'd run out of cars to vote for very quick!!

 

When I joined a previous discussion several weeks ago, I had mentioned that very suggestion (i.e., an announcement in each forum so that more members could participate). That was the plan and is still part of the idea. Issue is, things have not been finalized. Before making it more official with some of those additions (notices and even coverage on the front age), I had asked for assistance from some and also requested some sort of guidelines/plan be discussed/presented to me for review so that all this could be ironed out before the project started. I'm still working with some who wanted to be a part of an official "COTM" project.

However, prior to this, BADNBLK had started this project on his own for fun. So things have not been finalized and not everyone has been on board.

I wasn't completely against BADNBLK's work. My bigger suggestion is to have more variety (Firebirds and stock/mint/low mileage ThirdGens). Like I said, there has only been like 2 Firebirds in the running!

I'm not sure what that has to do with a "COTM" project or even this thread? We select Moderators based on our own criteria. But if someone has some suggestions for Moderator candidates, we will certainly review it. I'm not objected to some additional Moderators that meet our criteria. You must understand that Moderators are here for the best of the community, but they're also here to enforce our guidelines. They are here to make tough decisions that will usually upset one member or another, especially when there is conflicts between members.

That's also something that I've mentioned and is a concern to me. Just the fact that the trend, so far, appears to heavily favor modified Camaros illuminates this. This also is happening on the Firebird side, as you can see Camaros have significantly outweighed any votes and nominates for Firebirds.

I understand that modified Camaros appears to be favored more than stock/mint/low mileage Camaros. Just as Camaros appears to be favored more than Firebirds. But this is ThirdGen.org - a site dedicated to all 1982-1992 Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird. It should have more representation of those vehicles.

Like I said, as far as I'm concerned, the "COTM" has not been cancelled. I only made the above suggestion and I feel strongly about it. I've also noted a few who mentioned similar comments elsewhere. There needs to be more Firebirds and there needs to be given an avenue to have stock/low/mileage ThirdGens represented via a showcase. This site is not solely about modified Camaros. Again, I'm not against Camaros or Modified ThirdGens that are well-done.

We just need to try and cater to more than one group, which that group is Firebirds as well as stock/mint/low mileage ThirdGens!

The California forum wasn't the only one:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/sout...cotm-vote.html

I referred to the voting as a popularity contest myself in previous posts because that's sort of exactly what it is.

In fact, there was a post by a member who publicly posted that were going to vote for someone else, regardless of the car, just because they had a previous bad transaction with a member who was up for voting! That mindset made it less about the cars and more personal. A popularity contest. That's one of the issues with voting. However, to be fair, the member making that statement did reconsider. Just the fact that someone said, or thought like that, shows that voting will be subject to stuff like that. It really is a popularity contest.

 

JT,

I don't know what has been discussed up until this point about COTM, but to give all classes equal chances, why don't you do something like a monthly rotation? Do a best (modded or stock) camaro month, best (modded or stock) firebird month, and then every 3rd month could be best all or mostly original car. 12 months in a year means an equal amount of all 3 categories. Everyone should be happy if something like that was set up. And it would be great as well to have a "reminder" in all or most of the site sections so that more members could participate, and know about COTM. I personally only found these threads after someone told me about them lol.

In all fairness, I would have voted for Niel's car anyways as my top vote, regardless of my history with the other guy. I give credit where it is due, but I was HUGELY ripped off by the old owner of that car....I'm laid back enough where if it was a smaller amount, I'd let it blow right over. If theres one thing I can't stand though, it's someone selling a used part as something that it's not. That one part set me back big time on my personal project, which I'm still pretty upset over. I tried to settle it by calling the guy as well but never heard back from him again. Would you vote for someones car after they did that to you?

Anyways,

 

JT, you have a pm coming.

 

and you dont get the point i said. the thread was made to tell people thier is a COTM thread. Of course we want ramair21's car to do well and win. it deserves to. but if every nor cal/so cal member voted he'd have a ton more votes. Some people dont visit this particular area of the site. I know its not one I come to often. they can vote for another car if they'd like. I think by the end of this month it'll end up having more votes overall than last month because more people know about it.

 

I'm not trying to get into an e-argument with you, but the thread wasn't meant to generally spread the word that there is a cotm poll, it is specifically titled and worded to get votes for one particular car. As has been mentioned previously, going forward we could have a site banner or home page announcement for the polls to let people know about them, and they'd have no bias towards any particular nominee.

 

If COTM is to be run with nominations and votes made by the members, there shouldn't be "classes", it should be what the members want/like. If no one nominates firebirds, well maybe the firebird folk should step up and make their cars worthy of being COTM so they get nominated. If no one nominates stock(ish) cars, well maybe there is a reason for that. I appreciate all types of third gen f-bodys so dont think I'm lobbying for it to continue to be modified camaros - I'm just giving my two cents. And JT and the rest of the admin/mods who are giving this a chance thank you I am glad to see the forum progressing in a positive direction

I'm not sure what everyone's opinion of this would be, but to eliminate the need for categories and the like - you could implement a "picture of the month" type thread that had to be a pic of a third gen obviously. Once a picture has been submitted for one month it can NEVER be entered again, you have to go take a new pic of your car for the next month (no using multiple pics from one shoot/location for multiple months to circumvent the rules). There would be much fewer "mod list, how much was spent, bird vs camaro, stock vs modded, blah blah blah" issues it would be more about having a nice looking thirdgen showcased nicely in a good picture. You could only enter ONE picture per month per screen name, and no multiple pictures of the same car entered by different people. An "enter your POTM and nomination" thread would replace the current style nomination thread, with basically an individual able to nominate them selves and the rest could continue with the current set up.

The issues with a thread like that are two part:

1. overzealous people who have pictures not worthy of entering will not be able to restrain themselves from entering each month - the threads would be flooded with poor quality pics. I know this sounds mean/snobbish but it is the truth and we are all aware of that. Everyone is proud of their car as they should be but unless the pic is just fantastic I feel like we would get a bunch of sub-par cars in sub-par pics (still on the wet driveway after a wash, a trash can in the background, part of the car cut off, etc.) Take that same sub-par car and step back 25 feet at night in a cool parking garage - totally different image and that person win against a much nicer car.

2. People with superior photography skills and equipment would clearly be at an advantage. This could also has potentially very positive effect for third gens - it would make a large group of owners learn how to better showcase/photograph their cars (or find a buddy/acquaintance photographer to take some pics as practice or a favor). This would in turn begin to flood the 'net with high quality pictures of third gens - helping improve the overall third gen image and general image of TGO


I feel that a stock car with good paint and a nice wax job photographed in a good location would be every bit as much a contender as a twin turbo'd 9 second car with dripping candy paint - plenty here appreciate a NICE stock car especially in a nice pic. The same can be said about mildly modded, lower budget cars - this contest would be more about the over all car and presentation rather than tons of $$$$$ spent and the car sitting in a driveway but still winning due to the cool factor alone. Like ramair21's car, it has a very impressive mod list but if it wasn't listed it just looks like a LOW car, nice paint, nice wheels, cool headlights and rather stock other than that. Only the extremely, extremely well done standout show/race cars would have a major advantage and they deserve it after all. Also, I believe that once someone wins once maybe twice they would take a few months or more off, if it's not a challenge it loses the excitement of winning - well I can only hope because some people just suck and are selfish but hey whatever

Personally I like how COTM is currently run (see the first paragraph in this post) but I understand the need/want to showcase all types of thirdgens. I know Pic of the month is done similarly on 'tech and some other sites so I thought I'd throw the idea into the mix over here with some variations of my own to best meet the needs here. Whatever is decided on I would like to see the winner get their car placed in the top banner ideally, or the home page or something cool

Well thats my 3 cents!!!!!!!! Carry on gentlemen!

 

Weren't these the same cars that got nominated in January, minus the January winner? I feel like I've seen this before...

 

heres your amen i nominated ramair but dont like how the voting happened