Mancha87

I personally am going with either 19's back 18's front or 20s back 19s front.. Still have'nt decided.

I would never go bigger then 20's, I care for aestetics but going bigger then 20's sacrafices to much performance for my taste. But thats just me.

You probably will be classified as a duma$$/drug-dealer (Synonymous) but who cares what others think as long as your happy.

To the guy that said it's mostly black people that do this to "OUR" cars your ignorant and should jump in front of a bus, your polluting the rest of the population with something we need to get rid of to progress.(racism)

I know thats harsh but so was the comment made by that aforementioned person.

Twin turbo your cars badass, one of my favorites on here

OP,

JUST DO WHAT WILL MAKE YOU HAPPY! FTW!

Twin_Turbo

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That's my daily beater during the summer LOL it's really nothing very special.

Mancha87

Maybe you just took a really nice pic then. lol

What size wheels are those? I would love to have a set up like that on my car.

DethVenture

Which car are you talking about, Mancha?

Turbo's got 4 third gens, but that purple 'Vette is just gorgeous. THAT is how you do rims.

Twin_Turbo

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The gray 88 iroc. It's got 19s on it.

gerg

ugggghhh just terrible. i hate this fad with big rims and now the worse thing is "stretching" tires. take those 22's and fit a 205, 35,22 on them and put -6 degrees camber on your car...

JayBlack_HFC

Form > Function

Mancha87

I have to disagree that's like saying you want a beautiful girlfriend thats lazy and doesn't put out. Good form is useless r without function.

JayBlack_HFC

Which is why I got a side girl
(she just happens to be my 95 Volvo that I could probably take half of y'all with when it comes to Auto X)

cavazos31

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there is your biggest disconnect from many on the site. Lots here value function just as much, if not more, that form. There used to be a time when people didn't care how flashy their cars were, so long as they could blow your doors off, stoplight to stoplight.

Damon23

For me, no. For you, if it floats your boat. I'm no one to tell you what to do to your car and only you can be happy with the looks of it. Now, tub the car, tuck them under the rear and go with a smaller but matching wheel up front that allows you to turn and drop the car? That would be sick.

tylercamaro

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dropping a car with 20s+ is like putting it back to somewhat stock height, or at least trying to. you cant tub the front to tuck them. u have no steering radius, rides like utter crap, looks like crap. why do something thatll not be beneficial to your vehicle is what i dont get. why do you want the extra weight and drag because your car is now gonna be slower than hell. if youve ever watched those videos on youtube with the people trying to turn and the take up every lane possible to do so, how can you find that intriguing?

DethVenture

AMEN.

JayBlack_HFC

That really would!! I was regretting running duals because I can't lower the car at all. That I, until I heard it yesterday after they put my longtubes on. If I had some clearance I would lower and go 20s irocs but 22s with no drop is the next best thing when it comes to filling the wheel well.

ZZ3 Z28

Is that the point of putting on clown wheels, filling up the wheel well? I thought the point of putting on aftermarket wheels was to make the car look better.


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91 Droptop

If done right they do look better, a mini tub and Boze wheels tucked in quite nicely, large doesnt always mean guady, just depends how you set it up. Its not just lowering springs, you can fab the car to take a drop with 2 inch spindles or an air bag system.

DIGGLER

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the one thing that pops in my mind when i see those cars is hood rich. somebody been slingin dope and stealin' rims. i sometimes have to work in the ghetto areas, and i see it every time im out there. wonder how its possible for a bunch of donks to be parked in a yard at noon on a wednesday with everyone on the porch having a party? come back a week later... same thing.

but its your car, do with it as you wish.

Mancha87

Fitting In With The Crowd>Being Your Own Person

tylercamaro

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agreed

Dusk2600

Box chevy caprices, creepin on chrome D's...

just kidding, all joking aside, big rims only look good on trucks and suvs some times, sports cars having big rims defeat the purpose. just my 2cents

i think anything over 19's will look redicolous on any 3rd gen

IROCKT1

Hooptys like that just say to me " I dont be carin how it handles, I just wantz ta roll da hood wit my homies". As has been said, its your car, do with it as you please. It just seems faddish to me. It's like puttin mudflaps on a Ferrari.

pasuperdave

To each his own, I guess. I'm not going to slam anyone that turns their vision into a reality. I just hope they get their vision checked before it happens. There seems to be a point where rediculous comes into play. I would be interested in seeing how many clowns get out when it rolls into the circus tent.

midnightfirews6

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There is a point of diminishing returns, 17-19's really are the best as far as tire variety and working with the lines of the car, especially if it's lowered properly. Anything over 26" in diameter with the tire on it that will have the same stance as a truck, or be lowered to be near stock height from the ground. The average third gen owner will do this with springs, thereby screwing the roll center up so then you have a higher (or the same) center of gravity as stock with a much lower roll center. Combine this with more unsprung weight and less sidewall give (which means you will never hook if you have any power at all and breakaway warning will be nonexistent if you ever plan on taking a corner hard or drifting the car) and you will have one really bad handling car. Not to mention that the car will probably not have a high enough spring rate to stay off the bump stops, and that the larger rotating mass will eat power and gas mileage and will cook the transmission and diffy faster too, especially if the car ISN'T lowered. AND,,, don't expect the car to ride well. You are now riding on rubber bands with heavy wheels that will need a lot of additional weight stuck on to balance them out properly so that the car doesn't vibrate itself apart. If the car has steering or suspension troubles they will be magnified, and parts will wear quicker too.

To each his own, but anyone with a basic technical understanding of how an automobile works should understand that the above situation is pretty terrible- spending one to two grand in REEEIMMZ and tacking on additional money for tires to make a pretty damn well designed car drive like that is ridiculous. It's like lowering and stretching tires... larger wheels are good because if they are designed to be light weight, keep the same aspect ratio (tire diameter) as stock, and run a wider tire, they provide a better selection of performance street tire compounds and they run a smaller sidewall which enhances response and actually improve performance. Lowering a McPherson strut car a little lowers the center of gravity but at a certain point the geometry is so messed up the car is worthless, and stretching tires helps turn in but when you go too far it's unsafe as the beads aren't even seated properly. It's easy to see where these trends start- they actually are based off of function, they just get taken too far for the sake of form and throw function right out the window. Whatever, do your thing and it's just a car, but there are obvious drawbacks and no trend should be taken so far such that safety is a concern. (Though they have been and will be)

JayBlack_HFC

You guys are getting repetitive -___- Okay, how about this... Rotational mass? 24" Irocs weigh about the same as my stock tires. No side wall? We aren't on an auto x course so taking a corner at those speeds wont make sense. Distance from the ground? The reason I want to go bigger is so I don't have to worry about my duals hitting the ground. Center of gravity? Again, we aren't taking 90mph corners at VIR. And if your tranny can't pull 40 extra pounds then it was shot from the beginning.

There are positives and negatives to anything you do to your car. And most of y'all are just a little bit biased (a lot). But with that being said, y'all can go ahead and lock or delete this thread. I'm not going to try to change anyone's mind. That'd be beating a dead horse up here. One thing, I hope that everyone will be able to throw out those stereotypes of people with rims on their car. We aren't all drug dealers because our cars are "flashy" ................

Twin_Turbo

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Where is the bulk of the mass in yours 24s compared to oh say.. an 18? A 10 ft rope with a 24" rim on the end weighs about the same too, the rope weighs next to nothing, do you think there is a difference????

Please stop the puting that someone called you a drug dealer, you know it's not true. How sad..

Maybe you should trade for 1 horse power, you can go all out on rims with rubber band tires

tylercamaro

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your last comment about not wanting your duals to hit was the funniest thing ive probably ever read on this site, that comment is completely absurd. if your worried about them hitting keep it stock height and tuck them nicely, the only reason the wouldnt clear is if you decided to be laze and hang them lower and not tuck them up nicely.

no ones sterotyping so stop bringing that up. and you arent gonna change our minds becuase we all have a certain level of respect for our cars, and 20s+ just sorta takes from all that respect because your hoping something will go bad. its a sports car, its meant to be driving over the speed limit, no jacked up on 4x4 mode thinking your going the speed limit but your speedo is 15mph off

DethVenture

You'd look pimpin' fly rolling in one of those..

InfernalVortex

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Wheel gap is about ride height, not wheel size.



These are pony cars. Cheap, light sports cars oriented towards performance. Even purely aesthetic mods that people do are generally borrowing styling cues from race-oriented inspirations. Cowl hoods, larger wheels (17,18,19), spoilers, splitters, diffusers, stripes, hood scoops, wider tires, exhaust tips, etc etc are all borrowed from race cars. And most of the time, that stuff is done without any regard to taste and is no better than the giant wheel crowd, but people can always find the cars that are well done, with taste, and respect that.

The original reason wheels got bigger was to get better performance due to less sidewall flex and to fit larger brake discs.

But then you have groups who want to copy cat what the performance car crowd does, and that's fine, but they dont understand the motivation behind the trends. They just know some of us started putting 17's or 18's... then 19's... So they(not a racial separator) started putting 20's, then 22's, then 26's on their cars to get more attention. Because if bigger is better, more bigger is more better. But that's just not how it works, and that's why most of us stop at 19's, sometimes 20's. I personally wouldn't put anything past an 18 on our cars.

But at this point it has a mind of its own and a crowd of its own. We are not it.

tylercamaro

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^ that man has a way with words.

JayBlack_HFC

That is true.

tylercamaro

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i meant that he has explained in truth everything everyone else has been saying and thinking

DethVenture

Yeah, he perfectly summed it up.

FireDemonSiC

Hey...

Pssst...



You guys want to see something REALLY depressing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_kukEt7UGA

This is NOT a reversible mod! He had to cut the wheel wells to make those fit!

The sad part is, if wasn't for the wheels, monstrosity of an air cleaner and the (WTF?) yoshi, the car would be straight legit. I'm not too big on the flamboyant green paint but there's nothing wrong with that.

Twin_Turbo

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You can immediately tell that this is a very intelligent individual who has thoroughly thought through and went over this modification and has all the reasearch data to back it up. This modification significantly imrpvoes the safety, braking and handling of that car and as such the guy should be applauded.

There's no such thing as factory corvette aluminum open chamber heads, the L98 vette heads, D and non D port are all closed chambers.

love the painted exhaust tips

FireDemonSiC

This car just has fail written all over it the sad part being what good he DID put into the car is so deterred by this NONSENSE!

Not trying to resurrect the racial issue, but I think the deal with all the "black people" comments comes from the fact that cars with modifications such as "this" are PREDOMINANTLY owned by...well, you know.

Just the same as every 8 if not 9 out of 10 thirdgens that you see with the exception of maybe TGO are run down, ******* trash looking cars and are owned by, you guessed it, white people (Often fitting the ******* profile)!

I don't think It's so much that people are being racial about it, It's simply a stereotype that fits the profile. Now, to be fair I HAVE seen a few white people who drive cars with giant wheels on it, but It's kinda difficult to stumble across that combination.

Then again, what do I know. I probably just made an *** out of myself to all the black people on here without even intending to.

Twin_Turbo

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Where's the good? I don't see it. Looks like a painted green POS with rediculous wheels, shitty "gucci" interior, an old 350 banger with some crappy performance mods and more junk. Must be the rocker rollers or the shift kit. That thing was laying down rubber...insane!!

FireDemonSiC

I'll give him props for doing the 350 and rearend swap.



Interior - Not impressed at all. FAIL!

Transmission - Not impressed bragging about just a shift kit. Then again, I have a fully built 700 so pay no mind to me.

Wheels - FAIL

Paint - FAIL in my opinion but paint is just one of those gray "whatever" areas (Although lately oddly colored flamboyant paint jobs have been going hand and hand with ridiculously oversized wheels lately).




Sorry but this car is something straight out of a hotwheels collection with a bunch of silly stickers all over it.

midnightfirews6

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Twin turbo gave a pretty good explanation of rotational mass and Infernal Vortex did a good job explaining the "bias" and fender gap. As far as the shot about the tranny, again, rotational mass is different from usual sprung weight. (Same reason guys will drop $$ on lightweight driveshafts, flexplates/flywheels, rotating assemblies, wheels, etc. It makes a substantial difference.) adding 40 lbs of rotational weight puts the drivetrain, steering, bearings, suspension etc under a lot more stress than sprung, dead weight being carted around in the hatch and will wear them faster, make the car accelerate slower and take away a few MPG's. I'm not saying those parts will fail immediately from increased rotational inertia, but their lifespan will decrease notably.

There are no mechanical benefits from running anything larger than a 20", and the case may be made for even 19"s being a little frivolous if they aren't needed to clear big brakes. That said, it's your car. Most performance enthusiasts or auto history/ restoration buffs cringe at big wheels and probably won't have many kind words about them, and the car will not perform, ride or handle better with them at all, but if you like the look or it impresses your friends and that makes you feel good and helps you sleep at night then that's what matters.

brando278705

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Floatin'!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6mEUJienU

87350IROC

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While I admit its not quite my style. You would probably admit that car is in better shape than 90% of the cars on this forum.

DethVenture

The white paint and hockey stripes make me think of one 3rd genner here, (Can't remember names for the life of me) It's a Z28 clone with louvers, though. Was my desktop wallpaper for a while.

The floating effect is pretty darn cool, I have to admit. Little big for the wheels, but they're not half bad.

tylercamaro

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that guy is a memeber on here i think, hes got two other cars that look exactly the same. i still dont like it the wheels are way too big

91 Droptop

Well there is no lieing about how much HP you have with this ride

FireDemonSiC

LOL!

Twin_Turbo

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don't underestimate it, it comes with a WHIPplecharger!!!

DethVenture

That can periodically DOUBLE your HP!!

ringo234

I would love to get bigger rims for my camaro 17" maybe 18" but no bigger. If I had 17" rims I could clear c4 brakes, but I don't have that kind of money at the moment.
Anything bigger than that looks trashy especially the ones that look like chrome plated doilies.

ringo234

I think they look on a model T. I sort of like them on the Chrysler 300.

ringo234

Why stop at 22" get some spinner rims too.

ringo234

The rims on the black can't be more the an from scraping the ground. How can that be good.