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^ at least that has some function. anywho the OP talked about filling the fender well. im pretty sure theres more gap with 22's+ thatn there is with a lowered 16 or 17. the wheel wells werent made for that large of a wheel
But 22s fit in the wheel well without any modification and no turning issues though... and, the whole point of going for a bigger rim is to avoid lowering......
But 22s fit in the wheel well without any modification and no turning issues though... and, the whole point of going for a bigger rim is to avoid lowering......
your not getting the point, anything that isnt stock is a mod in a sense and putting plus size rims on a camaro is like going to the teen store and finding a bra for a plus size woman, theres gonna be an excessive amount of stress for the car or that bra.
now as the wheel gets larger the more space it needs between itself and the wheel well, so your wheels are no longer "tucked" or filling the wheel well even though you may think so
But 22s fit in the wheel well without any modification and no turning issues though... and, the whole point of going for a bigger rim is to avoid lowering......
Avoid lowering so you can use lift kits?
"But 22s fit in the wheel well without any modification and no turning issues though"
I don't think so, man...
If you want to fill the wheel wells, lower the car and put some 17's or so on it. Will look SO much better than putting big wheels on it. Unless there are some bragging rights for owning 22's...
This thread had been extremely civil considering the subject matter.
Originally Posted by tylercamaro
could be much much worse. you know theres alot of people holding ALOT back
^ Exactly.
I don't see why you decided to stir the pot of crap after nearly a year anyway, unless you felt some urge within you to jump into a dead conversation and start defending yourself.
Its all about the style of wheel you pick as well as the rest of the car. A car with flashy wheels and bad paint will look trashy and unfinished. A car with flashy wheels and nice paint will look better. That applies to all wheel sizes.
You can shove big rims on a car and have 'em look great, and not "ghetto" which that word has lost its meaning and is now simply a synonym for unporportional wheels.
You just have to do more than install wheels.
Example, 20/21 setup
As far as our cars. I think anything over 20" can look unporportional. My car has 20's, and from some angles it looks just right, while others it looks almost/too big. I have driven around with them for about a year and have decided they are a tad too large for me. I will be going with a C6 Z06 18/19 combo.
Stance plays a HUGE factor.
Before I lowered it. It looked almost "donked" out. I hated the look.
After lowering the rear about 2-3", I went to get a drink and gas before lowering the front. Here you can clearly see what lowering does. It looks alot better, but the front wheels appear to be larger than the rear due to ride height aswell as picture lighting. The front needs to come down 1-2".
Another reason people think large chrome wheels look bad, well online,is due to the pictures. On camera, chrome always looks bigger than what it is.
Here is a picture with proper lighting that displays an actual size. (Taken before lowered)
Notice how the spokes look alot wider, and the rim looks less well big compared to above pics.
In order to run a larger wheel and look decent you need:
Finished car
Good paint
lowered/stanced
big brakes( as you can see my car doesn't have in the last pic)
I've had many 70yr+ old men approach me about how nice my car is. That shows that you can have 20's and not appear to be selling drugs. I hope I'm not viewed that way. I was an all A/B student through school. But I'm not pleasing anyone else, especially old men, so its my opinion that matters. So that's why I'm looking for those 18/19 vette wheels.
Well my meaning-less rant is over. No one is gonna change their opinion.
Last edited by Buggy Disaster; 05-20-2013 at 03:06 AM.
id say your call pulls it off better than most. the wheel choice is a good looking wheel but you can still tell it sits higher than any stock thirdgen. it does have me iking the car in general though.
Thanks tyler.
As for as the height, the tires are only 1/4" - 1/2" taller than the stock tires. That's almost negligible due to tire tread and PSI.
My current fender height is about the same as a stock thirdgen. The front is actually a tad lower. And I am still going to lower it some more.
Stock Ride Height:.................. As of now:................. Me in it with fuel:
Rear-28 1/8" ..........................Rear-28.25" ...............Rear 27.75"
Front-27 3/4"........................ Front 27.8" .................Front 27.5"
My car loaded is actually lower than stock height. I just need to get it to where It is that low with out me in it. GC weight jacks are in the near future.
Last edited by Buggy Disaster; 05-20-2013 at 12:02 PM.
first time i see a 3rdgen that looks like that driving on the road around here i will run that damn thing over with my truck just to put it out of its misery
project89 , Wow man, that's pretty close minded of you. Hope you weren't referring to my car, because its a pretty nice car. Nicer than most other thirdgens on the road today.
And tyler, yeah maybe. The chin spoiler is about 3/4" higher than my Iroc, however it's probably due to the springs.
Last edited by Buggy Disaster; 10-21-2013 at 12:07 PM.
Its all about the style of wheel you pick as well as the rest of the car. A car with flashy wheels and bad paint will look trashy and unfinished. A car with flashy wheels and nice paint will look better. That applies to all wheel sizes.
You can shove big rims on a car and have 'em look great, and not "ghetto" which that word has lost its meaning and is now simply a synonym for unporportional wheels.
You just have to do more than install wheels.
Example, 20/21 setup
As far as our cars. I think anything over 20" can look unporportional. My car has 20's, and from some angles it looks just right, while others it looks almost/too big. I have driven around with them for about a year and have decided they are a tad too large for me. I will be going with a C6 Z06 18/19 combo.
Stance plays a HUGE factor.
Before I lowered it. It looked almost "donked" out. I hated the look.
After lowering the rear about 2-3", I went to get a drink and gas before lowering the front. Here you can clearly see what lowering does. It looks alot better, but the front wheels appear to be larger than the rear due to ride height aswell as picture lighting. The front needs to come down 1-2".
Another reason people think large chrome wheels look bad, well online,is due to the pictures. On camera, chrome always looks bigger than what it is.
Here is a picture with proper lighting that displays an actual size. (Taken before lowered)
Notice how the spokes look alot wider, and the rim looks less well big compared to above pics.
In order to run a larger wheel and look decent you need:
Finished car
Good paint
lowered/stanced
big brakes( as you can see my car doesn't have in the last pic)
I've had many 70yr+ old men approach me about how nice my car is. That shows that you can have 20's and not appear to be selling drugs. I hope I'm not viewed that way. I was an all A/B student through school. But I'm not pleasing anyone else, especially old men, so its my opinion that matters. So that's why I'm looking for those 18/19 vette wheels.
Well my meaning-less rant is over. No one is gonna change their opinion.
Dude your car looks sick with that setup if you do ever get the C6's I would be willing to buy you wheels and tires if you want to sell. LMK
project89 , Wow man, that's pretty close minded of you. Hope you weren't referring to my car, because its a damn nice car. Nicer than most other thirdgens on the road today.
And tyler, yeah maybe. The chin spoiler is about 3/4" higher than my Iroc, however it's probably due to the springs.
no ur car actualy looks tastefully done , i was refering to the convertible a page or so back
My car is sitting on stock style springs and shocks and I think 18s are about are about too big. Might just be that they're chrome.
22s however don't belong on any car (in chrome). ESPECIALLY a third gen. Wheels don't make a car a show car, the rest of the car does. Good wheels just tie the body lines together.
Last edited by Skinny Neb; 05-22-2013 at 12:12 AM.
project89 , Wow man, that's pretty close minded of you. Hope you weren't referring to my car, because its a damn nice car. Nicer than most other thirdgens on the road today.
And tyler, yeah maybe. The chin spoiler is about 3/4" higher than my Iroc, however it's probably due to the springs.
A car can be nice and not necessarily be tastefully done. For what it's worth I dont like your wheels very much. Too big and too chrome. If they were 18's I'd like them much more but I think even 18's are too big, but it depends on the wheel. Still a very nice car, though. I bet it wins a lot of car show awards and gets lots of positive attention.
When it comes down to it, big shiny chrome wheels dont give a "performance" car look in my opinion. They make it more of grand tourer/cruiser car. They look flashy and heavy. You never see race cars (ALMS, Le Mans, NASCAR, Formula 1, etc) with chrome wheels, and therein lies the difference in our stylistic philosophies. I like a classy utilitarian race car look. Whereas you like flashy. That's fine, different strokes for different strokes, my taste is not better than yours. But I will say that it's a bit presumptuous to assume everyone should agree with your stylistic decisions on your car and that 20's are just misunderstood, which is definitely the vibe I got from your post.*
*like I said, very, very nice car, nothing is going to detract from that. My disagreements are over style, which is always going to be subjective.
Last edited by InfernalVortex; 05-22-2013 at 12:20 AM.
I actually completley agree with what you wrote. Very well put. And thanks for the compliment. I can see how you got that vibe since I kind of went off on a tangent about the mis-understood topic, however my main point was that 20's can look decent if done right, and look bad if just thrown on the car, but they are still large wheels. But that is my opinion which is completley subjective. There's no right or wrong. More so of looked upon and frowned upon.
My car is sitting on stock style springs and shocks and I think 18s are about are about too big. Might just be that they're chrome.
22s however don't belong on any car (in chrome). ESPECIALLY a third gen. Wheels don't make a car a show car, the rest of the car does. Good wheels just tie the body lines together.
drop it a couple inches and it will look great.. Just my opinion though
the camaro with 20's, which is a nice car, absolutly has the illusion its higher than stock. nice wheels, just a touch big for my tastes. am i reading correct, or are those pics prior to lowering? an inch or two lower would help the look a ton.
to me, the gap between the top of the tire and bottom of the fender lip, needs to be less than the profile of the tire itself, or it doesnt look right. the handful of cars here with 20's on airbags look good, but more when they're slammed then ride height. the only way big wheels look good is if you have them tucked in the fenders, otherwise it looks odd. that 20/21 setup on the first gen wouldnt look good if the fenders were anywhere near the top of the tires. the rear would be up at least three inches, probably closer to four.
drop it a couple inches and it will look great.. Just my opinion though
and I agree with infernalvotex as well
That has been my plan, but I still think I should have gone with 17s, especially now that I've burned the back tires off and 18s are another $50 a piece from their 17" equivalent
Yea bro I doubt your going to find any love on here about your topic. Many ppl are closed minded about being different and being a stand out. these vehicles stared out stock every last one of them so why keep it that way?? I'm all for big wheels as long as its done right and not looking like a toddlers toy. I've searched on the web many times via yahoo, youtube, thirdgen.org no one seems to what me to have a creative mind and do different things like putting 24" rims on an iroc. Lets be realistic here who actually takes their vehicle to the track to run passes, who actually test their hot rod on a regular bases to get everything out of their motor?? So why not have some fun and be creative & do something different. Go for it your an individual not a robot no need to keep doing the same thing over and over with different stock rims and different color schemes, slap 24s on it and cruise!!!!!!!
This post is pretty old lol. But I guess it was because I was kind of young when I posted this but now I feel like there shouldn't be anything larger than 20s on these cars. Anything 24s+ is going to require lifting and cutting. I don't see the point in that anymore.
Lets be realistic here who actually takes their vehicle to the track to run passes, who actually test their hot rod on a regular bases to get everything out of their motor??
I do, it's pretty normal around my area to do so rather than ruin the performance of the car with oversized wheels.
Yea bro I doubt your going to find any love on here about your topic. Many ppl are closed minded about being different and being a stand out. these vehicles stared out stock every last one of them so why keep it that way?? I'm all for big wheels as long as its done right and not looking like a toddlers toy. I've searched on the web many times via yahoo, youtube, thirdgen.org no one seems to what me to have a creative mind and do different things like putting 24" rims on an iroc. Lets be realistic here who actually takes their vehicle to the track to run passes, who actually test their hot rod on a regular bases to get everything out of their motor?? So why not have some fun and be creative & do something different. Go for it your an individual not a robot no need to keep doing the same thing over and over with different stock rims and different color schemes, slap 24s on it and cruise!!!!!!!
Wait.. You've been to youtube and you can't find anyone putting 24s on an iroc? Are you sure you're searching camaros, and not.. Nothing?
Yea bro I doubt your going to find any love on here about your topic. Many ppl are closed minded about being different and being a stand out. these vehicles stared out stock every last one of them so why keep it that way?? I'm all for big wheels as long as its done right and not looking like a toddlers toy. I've searched on the web many times via yahoo, youtube, thirdgen.org no one seems to what me to have a creative mind and do different things like putting 24" rims on an iroc. Lets be realistic here who actually takes their vehicle to the track to run passes, who actually test their hot rod on a regular bases to get everything out of their motor?? So why not have some fun and be creative & do something different. Go for it your an individual not a robot no need to keep doing the same thing over and over with different stock rims and different color schemes, slap 24s on it and cruise!!!!!!!
Lol the funny part is you think putting 24s is being different rather than keeping it stock. When was the last time you saw a nice example of a stock thirdgen? I can only count a couple that've have seen at some local shows. Stock thirdgens are glorified on this website because they are a very uncommon thing nowadays.
The wheel wells simply weren't cut large enough for anything beyond an 18, and MAYBE a 19 to look good. No matter what, Air Ride suspension, slammed, whatever...22s just don't work on these cars because they aren't proportionate to the wheel wells, and the end result is clown car, even with Air Ride.
This my car, say what you want about stock but no matter where I go I turn heads.
Is that even for real? No way someone would do that. PhotoShop just to clown?
I have lived or worked in plenty of areas where people did just that. Whatever suits your tastes. I just get a laugh when I read the for sale ad for the car saying "$4,000 for car with rims or $2,200 without rims."
Just like a $10,000 drivetrain in a $2,000 body the owner knows they are worth more separately than together.
Wow is this ever an old thread that just keeps getting revived so I will through in my 2 cents. My opinion is people can do what ever they want with their cars, its your money, do it. I understand how some may feel it is wrecking a car, but I dont understand why people get mad about it? Now there is one less that might look like yours and if it is truly fugly, then your car will be more appreciated.
I like big wheels, but it all comes down to the stance and overall look. I'm building a 53'GMC truck with the big fenders and putting 20" wheels on it. When driving it will have 4.5" ride height and will be able to put the running boards on the ground when parked. The wheels fit the truck and it is "proportional". Will some old school hotrodders say the wheels are too big?...most likely.
I also agree with the comment made of chrome wheels may look bigger then actual due to lighting and type of pictures. The wheels need to be in proportion to the vehicle, and match the style. My IROC is lowered on chrome 17" wheels. In the 2 pictures nothing has been changed. In one picture the wheels look big, but in the second seems more proportionate and fits the car better.
Everybody has their own taste, style, etc and even that can change with time. When I bought my car I loved the 17" chrome wheels, now I am thinking of putting it back on the stock ones.
06-22-2012, 02:07 AM
But I'm not pleasing anyone else, especially old men, so its my opinion that matters.
So that's why I'm looking for those 18/19 vette wheels.
Thanks for the morning laugh. 
