JayBlack_HFC

Question.... Is there ANYONE on this forum that isn't against the whole big rims thing?

Before you guys rip my head off, just think about it for me. Not everyone looks at these cars for the speed factor. There are many of us dumping money into our cars for nothing but aesthetics. What makes having bigger rims any different from any other non-functional modification?

I know there are a few downfalls to using bigger rims on our cars. But when I searched a few of the other people who attempted to make a thread like this, most of the negatives behind them were exaggerated. I'm part of a car club where many of our members have larger than normal wheels. The ride quality on most cars, depending on how the cars suspension was done, was the same after putting the rims up there. Two of my friends have 3rd gen Camaros on 24 inch rims. They aren't much slower than my stock Trans Am. And their speedometers may be off by about 10 at the most on the highway. And I've never heard of anyone having damage from a pothole, except my friend with a 4th gen Camaro on 24s hitting a curb at 35mph last weekend and cracking his rim.

I'm making this thread because I know I'm not alone. There are more Camaros than I could count on rims 22s or bigger. I haven't seen many Trans Ams so I thought that I would make that one of my projects.

haps

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Answer: If there are....they should be.

1) Dangerous. Increased rotating mass. Elevated the center of gravity. Increased unsprung weight. Increased wear on wheel bearings, ball joints and bushings.
2) Reduced ride quality. Reduced turning radius.
3) Look cartoonish and mock pretty much everything these cars were designed and built for. But hey...that's just me.

Welcome to the site!

puma1552

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Big rims make your car look like utter ghetto trash, that's what makes it different.

If you like the hoodrat trash look, be my guest and put gaudy big rims on it and look like a drug dealer.

grngryoutmyway

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Hello, welcome to the forum. I honestly do not think you are going to find any love of the subject here. Unfortunately there are a lot of close minded people here that have lack of respect for others opinions (don't come after me, I am being honest).

I do like bigger wheels on muscle cars, as long as they look like the fit. You really cant get that big of a wheel to fit on a thirdgen. I have seen 20's that just barely tucked and looked fine, but that is really pushing it. Older cars that have frames and big wheel wells you have room to tuck them in. So I still vote no, but respect people trying to push the limit and do different stuff.

RubberDucky

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There's one member that put 22" on the car and it looked alright, it wasn't jack up in the air, it was at stock ride height I believe. But the rim choice left something to be desired.

ZZ3 Z28

Not this again!

Manic Z

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Man, and here I was struggling on whether to go 17`s or 18`s (i ended up going 17`s).

2007xl50

IMO it's a dumb idea, but it's your car and money. 20's on say a slammed Chevelle is cool looking, but other than that I hate the DONK look on any car. If you want to do a lift kit get a 4x4 truck and go to town on it.

DiabolicalRS

i see alot of ppl here where i live with donks. funny thing is, is that the rims cost more than the car itself. so why not just put that money into making your car reliable. its ok to be the black sheep from your friends. my dad tell me all the time that the ppl who come in to his office are the ones who had money and spent it on some rims and now need help from the government with money. plus your just gonna where your car down faster. also im not saying you dont have money because i dont know your situation.but good luck in anything you do

Lmancha96

Im not a big fan of the 22's myself, the biggest i will go is 19's maybe 20's, but if you wish to have these on your car go ahead, im not going to bash you for it or call you a "drug dealer" or "ghetto trash".

puma1552

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It is what it is. When was the last time you saw a financial advisor in a nice suit step out of a car with big rims? When was the last time you saw some ghetto trash with pants at the ankles step out of a car with big rims?

JayBlack_HFC

I can understand that in most instances, it has come out ghetto looking. I'm speaking on the people who take the right amount of time and money to make their stance right.

And if I recall, most lowered cars also have an effected ride quality.

My idea was to do a staggered set of 22s and maybe a rolled fender depending on how well they fit. Or 20s in the front, 22s in the rear. I have an 84 Trans Am and haven't seen it done before, unless on a Camaro.

SweetRevelation

why would you wanna be like all of yours friends with the big rims?
why not be different and have stock-ish wheels?

I say get some GTA rims (since you have a Firebird) and have them restored/polished up... they'll look much better than any 22 incher you're planning on putting on there...

JMO

84z28BlueDevil

garbage..i think that look is stupid... why waste ALL that money on dumb looking rims that cost twice what you paid for the car instead of putting the money towards something more usefule...just my opinion

JayBlack_HFC

Stock doesn't turn heads. And it doesn't win car shows. I want my car to stick out from the norm, as does everyone else with their mods. And for some reason, I haven't ever been a fan of GTA wheels. They look too similar to BBS RS rims that you'd see on a Volks.

luvofjah

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Besides the post about dangerous, etc... (which I agree with), I think it's a case of someone trying to up someone else and gone too far...

For a comfy ride, you need a lot of sidewall & air... I understand bigger rims, up to a few inches can help with handling (at the cost of the comfort suffering) & this greatly helps on a race track, but on a street car?

I'm glad my car has 15's... I had them media blasted and powdercoated clear, so they look great, but I left it stock height when I replaced the springs and have added subframe connectors, etc... Car rides great and night and day difference between stock and now...

A lot of people here are against them, and I am one of them...

My personal taste in "different cars" are not so much the cars that are blatantly modified (how can you not notice the 22 inch wheels), but the ones when you turn back and say, "hey, that didn't come that way from the factory"..... but to each his own, I don't expect others to like what I do or vice versa...

But ultimately, it's your $$$, your car, you riding in it every day, etc...
Do what you want with it...

Rafael

91 Droptop

Not a huge fan (usually because they are just slappen on) if you work the suspension and get them tucked up and in the wells it will look good. I think you will need to run bags to get the stance and hieght you are looking for.

Its all about the stance, I have a good freind with a 72 Cutlas with 22s and the etire car is black and all shaved with black rims and wide aluminum lip. The car looks killer because of its stance (air bagged) I will see if I have any pics.

Camaro82Z28

Um, actually stock DOES turn heads, and it DOES win car shows. Huge rims turn heads for the wrong reason

Michael21

Just MY opinion....I don't like big rims on cars...especially third gens...I kept the original 15 inchers on the t/a and put 215's on the front and 235's on the rear. i think it gives it a better stance. Maybe 245's on the rear would be better if i had the $$ I think having bigger rims on the third gens takes away from how they are supposed to look....

ZZ3 Z28

puma1552

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The wheel wells simply weren't cut large enough for anything beyond an 18, and MAYBE a 19 to look good. No matter what, Air Ride suspension, slammed, whatever...22s just don't work on these cars because they aren't proportionate to the wheel wells, and the end result is clown car, even with Air Ride.

brdofpry85ta

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^^^ ....I do agree...don't forget da GOLD tooph!!!!! or full grillz if ya ball'n.....

You mentioned car shows....Well you would be limiting your self to the donk type of car shows, cause if you showed up to a regular old school/modern/muscle car type show you would surely be clowned & laughed at... at least around here.....

Like someone else said, teh look is ok/good for other cars but it just does't fit the look on 3rd gens....even 4th gens for that matter. It does't fit the body style, Stagered 20's is push'n it, 18's perfect.....If ya wanna turn heads then you should spend the money elseware...(i.e) kick azz paint job, stance (suspention), r*cer wing (Just kidding)....e.t.c.....

But, at the end of the day it's your car,do what you must.....

just my

keeslinger31

19's max even sometimes i feel ghetto with mine so i imagine with 22's I would get shot stepping out of my car in kc

88TransAmGuy

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Ok like everyone else here has said you are likely not going to find Any love for this idea. At ALL. Having giant rims is a huge way to earn disrespect on here. It makes most of us gag seeing cars like this:







It's the same idea when guys ask " Would it be a good idea to put a 4 inch lift kit on my Thirdgen and go mudding?" Good luck.

JayBlack_HFC

26s, as you posted, look horrible because they don't fit in the wheel well. The second one you posted looks good on the car though. You don't have to do much of anything to fit 24s on a Camaro.

91 Droptop

Remember its your ride your choice, one good thing is its just rims, they can be changed very easy if they don't work out

jensen73110

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I'm a fan of doing different, so I was all set to defend the idea.

And then I saw the pics.

The 4x4 look kills these cars. The blue one above just might pull off those wheels if the body was sitting 6 or 8 inches lower. But then it couldn't turn. :/

This is kinda like going on a Prius forum and announcing you're going to modify an econo hybrid for drag racing. It doesn't mean you're wrong, but you're gonna get a whole lot of "WTF?" looks.

JayBlack_HFC

Lol that's true. I think, given the right person, 26s could even look decent on a Camaro. They just lifted it too high and destroyed it by just going away with a hacksaw to the fenders.

And I believe you struck the nail on the head. If someone would make a 12 second Prius, I would be impressed to say the least.

Lt1Chris

l like the idea

keeslinger31

Okay so if you can work under your car without using a jack its ugly

JayBlack_HFC

The way I see it, the further time goes by, the bigger rims are getting. I've seen plenty of people here that even say 15s are their limit because when they grew up anything bigger was distasteful. I don't see it as ghetto. I just see it as changing times. Think about it. When is the last time you saw a concept sports car with rims smaller than 20s?

Bullydawg

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I have seen a few cars that don't look too bad at all... Look at Street Actions on youtube... They have quite a few cars that look great on bigger wheels. Quite a few 3rd gen's too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P59vurXHphM

Not sure how big their wheels are, but I am sure you could figure it out if you asked or did a search.

http://www.facebook.com/StreetActions/photos

JayBlack_HFC

^^ 22s with the exact stance I want to get out of mine. That's done right!!!
Both links you posted are awesome!!

Bullydawg

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Glad I could help. If done correctly, 22's can be pulled off nicely. I personally think IROC wheels look great going down the freeway when they get the floating look. If you go through the video's you will know what I am talking about.

Alain2

Go to a lowrider forum if you want friends with 22''.

I run 19'' and it is already too big...I wish I went smaller.

haps

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The designers also enlarge the wheel opening and the engineers design a suspension based on a big wheel/big brake package. Your argument is without merit. It's best for you to say "I like big wheels because I think they look good." and leave it at that....any argument to the contrary makes you appear diluted.

Manic Z

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Don`t forget a car`s body proportions.

The Project

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JayBlack_HFC, Welcome to the board.

To each his own........your car, your choice.

cavazos31

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The stance on that IROC is perfect, just needs more tire and less wheel. Stock iron calipers, behind huge wheels, look tacky...unless you paint them red.

puma1552

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That looks horrible, nothing looks worse than huge rims with 10.5" stock brakes that could barely slow down 15" rims.

yaj15

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I agree. Also the suspension can't go through a full compression cycle. I can't tell you how many of the old 80's -90's Buicks I have seen with 24'' wheels where I live. On the high way I stay away from them. Many times when the suspension cycles through, the body hits the top of the tire. Thats a blow out and a total loss of control waiting to happen. They also use blocks to lift up the body of the car to fit those huge wheels and tires. That throws all the suspension geometry out of specification.

It just amazes me sometimes that people modify their car and don't understand whats really going on. When you start trying to modify things you have to go to school and do your homework. In many ways you have to become a design engineer.

puma1552

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All that matters is flossing huge gaudy rims on a $3 car and "hard parking" in front of your crack house in the ghetto.

Remember, big rims = "street cred"

The trends just get stupider and stupider and stupider as the years go by. When will it end?

I did LOL the other day as I passed by a gas station with a crappy *** old Buick on rims with a flat.

Genopsyde

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hmmm, with 26's I could fit long tube headers and true dual exhaust without beating my floor pan with a hammer... :-D

terrorsquad77

Up here in mass, most of the big rims are on cars owned by loser punks who sling dime bags and think they are Tony Montana. Other wise, its the white kids with loaded parents who walk around calling every one "son" and talk about how tough their gated community.. ......ummmm. ..I mean "hood" is.

JimmyDavidson

There's a few downfalls and not a single gain. Looking "good" is NOT a gain(especially when 95% of the community says otherwise) Which makes me think "why?"

Blue1990camaro

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i just puked all over my key board..........

cmcz450

the 12 seconds would be impressive, but it can't change the fact of a Prius being an eye sore. Why the h3ll can automakers not produce hybrids that don't look like a bubble?

IMO negative on 22's they dont even look proportionate on a truck with a lift, but it's your vehicle to do whatever you want.

micktroup2

That blue car look like a freaking baby buggy! Do you really want to drive around in a car that looks like a STROLLER?!
This question is like Joan Rivers and plastic surgery- just because she can, doesn't mean she should!!
Our cars are imperfect sports/muscle cars- perfect yours, OR GO BUY AN OLDS CUTLASS OR BUICK RIVIERA if you want to pimp a car out. Or just go out and weld up a chain steering wheel while you are at it...Can I swing by and pick up a dime bag?

Phenom-1

Lmao ^ edited for my Pleasure

Phenom-1

I think I'm gonna cry, I think I've seen that teal Camaro with those big *** wheels on YouTube I think its the same one, I mean there can't be two people on this earth that are equally stupid.... Or can there ?. To the video you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LXa-...e_gdata_player


Mostly its the "Black" population that does this to Our cars Note: The guy behind the wheel