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Old 01-31-2013, 09:52 AM
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3rd gen fashion "don'ts".....

These are modifications that really bug me on a 3rd gen. Just my own humble opinion and tastes. Not meant to offend anyone. It's your car, do what you want.

1) Disgusting hoods. I especially hate the one where the hood louver area is raised to make room for those four hood vents.

2) Any and all rear wings or spoilers which are used with or without the factory spoiler.

3) 4th gen instrument panels and consoles in our cars. I didn't care for the interiors in 4th gens, I certainly don't see them as an improvement in 3rd gens.

Okay....I'll stop now, before I offend too many people.

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These are modifications that really bug me on a 3rd gen. Just my own humble opinion and tastes. Not meant to offend anyone. It's your car, do what you want.

1) Disgusting hoods. I especially hate the one where the hood louver area is raised to make room for those four hood vents.

2) Any and all rear wings or spoilers which are used with or without the factory spoiler.

3) 4th gen instrument panels and consoles in our cars. I didn't care for the interiors in 4th gens, I certainly don't see them as an improvement in 3rd gens.

Okay....I'll stop now, before I offend too many people.
I have to agree on all, plus I have a few more that I will keep to myself.
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The main things I hate the most:

1. Seeing Trans Am stuff on or in a Camaro. These cars have enough identity problems as it is.

2. Wheels and tires sticking out from under the fenders like a freakin' Jeep.

3. This whole Plasti-Dip craze.
"Look, guys... I Plasti-Dipped my hood and now it's a totally different dull shade of black, even though the rest of the car is pink with yellow polka dots. Doesn't it look SIIIIIIIICK?"
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3. This whole Plasti-Dip craze.
"Look, guys... I Plasti-Dipped my hood and now it's a totally different dull shade of black, even though the rest of the car is pink with yellow polka dots. Doesn't it look SIIIIIIIICK?"


I'll add to this.
5th gen wheels on a 3rd gen
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I have other things to be thinking about.
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What Chazman said!

Well,... on street rides anyway.

I'm completely OK with way-out mods on dedicated racers built on salvage titles.

An F-16 cockpit shoehorned into a Berlinetta is OK so long as it wins its bracket!
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To each their own really! If it makes you happy shouldn't matter what others think but I hear what your saying. One thing I don't care for is when converting FI to Carb. It just takes away years of technology from the car IMO. But it is cheaper and easier to run which is why its chosen typically. I don't recall seeing a hate topic before but it could be very interesting. LOL
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I agree in general. Wouldn't say I "hate" some mods but they just don't appeal to me and lower the desirability and value of the car in my opinion. I try to keep an open mine about it. I see a lot of modified cars here that were well thought out and execute and look great. I try to appreciate the time, money and engineering that go into some of the well done modified cars, even though it's not what I've would have done if I'd had the time and the means to do it.
For every 1 of those you see 5 or 10 of what I would have to call "hack jobs" where I can't find much good to say about what was done, but again, that's just my opinion.
I guess the thing I'm still struggling with is the after market fiberglass blister hoods. I have yet to see one that really looks right sitting on a 3rd gen, can just say some are less ugly than others.
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Putting ANY and ALL "vette" rims on ANYTHING other than a "vette".
 
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What Chazman said!

Well,... on street rides anyway.

I'm completely OK with way-out mods on dedicated racers built on salvage titles.

An F-16 cockpit shoehorned into a Berlinetta is OK so long as it wins its bracket!
Race car mods actually serve a pupose. Form follows function. That's different.
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the 4th gen console is ok especially if you do a t-56 swap and don't want to modify your 3rd gen console, i used a short throw shifter with my t-56 swap so it would fir in the 3rd gen console. i Don't like that cowl vented hood its so ugly.. plasti dip can be ok when used right. i wouldn't
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I hate carburetors... not saying there arent nice cars here that have carbs but my own opinion is, this is 2013...get with the times!
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I hate carburetors... not saying there arent nice cars here that have carbs but my own opinion is, this is 2013...get with the times!
Yeah seriously, they want the latest and greatest technology like an iphone 5 but when it comes to their car they would rather rock the 1960's technology LOL. The only reason people like carb's are because any I hate to say hill billy but its true can swap one in. It takes real skill to tune/work on fuel injection.

The only thing I could add is cowl hoods, they look horrible and don't match our cars.

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1. tires sticking out of the fenders
2. non thirdgen era engines--keep it old school
3. lights underneath and all over inside
4. someone gutting a car completely to make it fast--it can be done without gutting it.
5. not building it yourself and bragging.
6. Z28 stuff on an RS or vise versa. keep it real.

its just me. but I like the stock look. stealth is what I adore. looks stock outside and beast inside. like an RS that runs 11's and doesn't even look or sound it.
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When I started building cars we heard about fuel injection but never really laid an eyeball on anything close to F.I. Pictures where about it and old ways are hard to change. There fore I vote for the carburetor.
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3. lights underneath and all over inside
4. someone gutting a car completely to make it fast--it can be done without gutting it.
6. Z28 stuff on an RS or vise versa. keep it real.

its just me. but I like the stock look. stealth is what I adore.
I totally agree!! Keep the spaceship lights on the Hondas!
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you know what i hate even more. seeing them neglected and mistreated by there owners. there are handfuls of neglected rusted out and beat to hell ones up here in chicago.
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Yeah seriously, they want the latest and greatest technology like an iphone 5 but when it comes to their car they would rather rock the 1960's technology LOL. The only reason people like carb's are because any I hate to say hill billy but its true can swap one in. It takes real skill to tune/work on fuel injection.

The only thing I could add is cowl hoods, they look horrible and don't match our cars.
I agree on the cowl hoods, and any hood with some kind of a bubble, blister, scoop, etc. Keep it stock for the street. Also, any kind of high wing, the stock spoiler is probably one of the best looking ever put on a car. But I think you have hill billy confused with nostalgia. I remember seeing the 1967 Camaro and thinking it was better looking than the Mustang. As a 16 year old kid, I begged Dad for one, but he thought the family wagon was more practical. After a few more decades, you will probably look back very fondly on a FI car, while wondering how the heck you are going to get your new proton warp drive vehicle to start after leaving your lights on all nite.
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Just to clarify, I didn't take offence to the hill billy remark. At my age, I find it amusing
how much dependence is put on any kind of new electonic/computer device. My kids
can't do math with some kind of calculator, I used to do complicated math problems
with a slide rule. And no, that is not a measuring device. Guess i'm just living in the
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The only thing I dislike is when someone takes a perfectly original car and modify it, When I decided to build the Trans Am I have I went looking for one that needed work, Not the original engine, trans, needing paint and body work, I knew exactly how I was going to modify the car and was not going to destroy something original, Some people hate what I have done to my car, And by reading the list here most of you hate it and I couldn't care at all because I am not building it for any of you, It is for me and it's what I want
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Originally Posted by chazman
These are modifications that really bug me on a 3rd gen. Just my own humble opinion and tastes. Not meant to offend anyone. It's your car, do what you want.

1) Disgusting hoods. I especially hate the one where the hood louver area is raised to make room for those four hood vents.

2) Any and all rear wings or spoilers which are used with or without the factory spoiler.

3) 4th gen instrument panels and consoles in our cars. I didn't care for the interiors in 4th gens, I certainly don't see them as an improvement in 3rd gens.

I did not know we were allowed to post hate threads.Any way to the "OP"
If your going to bash why cant you at least spend the time to find out the name of the hood/hoods your talking about.What is ?= " I especially hate the one where the hood louver area is raised to make room for those four hood vents" ?
What exactly does this even mean ? = " Any and all rear wings or spoilers which are used with or without the factory spoiler." "With the factory spoiler" ? I don't think Ive ever seen a wing with the factory spoiler still attached.
No offence intended!

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I did not know we were allowed to post hate threads.Any way to the "OP"
If your going to bash why cant you at least spend the time to find out the name of the hood/hoods your talking about.What is ?= " I especially hate the one where the hood louver area is raised to make room for those four hood vents" ?
What exactly does this even mean ? = " Any and all rear wings or spoilers which are used with or without the factory spoiler." "With the factory spoiler" ? I don't think Ive ever seen a wing with the factory spoiler still attached.
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Here you go, bro:

"IROC 2.5" Cowl Induction Hood"


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Here you go, bro:

"IROC 2.5" Cowl Induction Hood"

That is actually called a "Daytona" Hood.
I'm not trying to be a jerk so I have decided to retract some of my comments and resign from the conversation.

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That is actually called a "Daytona" Hood.
I'm not trying to be a jerk and I have never attacked anyone here but if you going to do it "attack" that is, do it wright using knowledge.

I HATE the Daytona hood.



......I'm sure you meant "right" and not "wright". I'll let you slide, though.
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People saying they don't care what other people think about their car are full of crap. The reason people try to make their car cool is to impress OTHER people, not themselves. You drive around feeling cool because you know OTHER people think it is cool. If you knew everyone thought it was an ugly POS you wouldn't feel good driving it because it would not be cool. Cool is a popularity contest. So know, everyone cares what people think about the aesthetics of their car, if they care enough to mod them.
P.S. Hate cowl hoods. So over done. Every back woods billy does it.
 
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What is the point of this thread? There are a lot of nice cars on this board that have 4th gen interiors, non original engines like the ls1, vette wheels, cowl hoods, even though not my taste look good if its a small 2" cowl. Also plenty of nice cars that would be nice original but it's called hotrodding guys, people like to modify and make things their own. Like a fast ls1 vs a 305tpi. Even if it's original who cares, it's their car. Point is this is a board for people to post pics, ask questions, and get an idea of what they like and don't like. If you don't like it that way then no one is forcing you to do it, make your car what you want. Sorry not usually a big poster, especially stuff like this that can be a bit controversial, but I don't see the point of making a giant thread that bashes a lot of cars, even some nice cars that are on this website.
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Originally Posted by Edwardgp
When I started building cars we heard about fuel injection but never really laid an eyeball on anything close to F.I. Pictures where about it and old ways are hard to change. There fore I vote for the carburetor.



I want to control my car, Not some outdated computer system......
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I did not know we were allowed to post hate threads.Any way to the "OP"
If your going to bash why cant you at least spend the time to find out the name of the hood/hoods your talking about.What is ?= " I especially hate the one where the hood louver area is raised to make room for those four hood vents" ?
What exactly does this even mean ? = " Any and all rear wings or spoilers which are used with or without the factory spoiler." "With the factory spoiler" ? I don't think Ive ever seen a wing with the factory spoiler still attached.
No offence intended!
You have now.





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For example, this car. 2" cowl, vette wheels, ls1 t56. I personally am not a fan of cowls, some look a little out of place, and I don't know that I'd do the wheels on my car being that it's white and i think the chrome would be a bit much. But bottom line, this car is sick, the small cowl doesn't look out of place, and it's one of the nicer cars on the board for sure imo. Oh and *GASP* it has a 5" hawks spoiler.

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You have now.






There is an IROC in my town with a huge *** wing on the rear deck in addition to the factory spoiler. It's really a nice car, ruined by a 3rd gen fashion "don't".
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Yeah seriously, they want the latest and greatest technology like an iphone 5 but when it comes to their car they would rather rock the 1960's technology LOL. The only reason people like carb's are because any I hate to say hill billy but its true can swap one in. It takes real skill to tune/work on fuel injection.

The only thing I could add is cowl hoods, they look horrible and don't match our cars.
What nonsense. A carburetor takes plenty of skill to tune right. I've seen guys well learned with FI try to tune a carb, and they just end up making a mess of it.

Both take skill to tune properly. Don't give me that hillbilly crap.
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What nonsense. A carburetor takes plenty of skill to tune right. I've seen guys well learned with FI try to tune a carb, and they just end up making a mess of it.

Both take skill to tune properly. Don't give me that hillbilly crap.
Proper carb tuning is becoming a lost art.
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I just "dislike" riced out thirdgens.

Could never hate on a thirdgen <3 haha
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Re: Things I hate.......

Originally Posted by jayhawk
People saying they don't care what other people think about their car are full of crap. The reason people try to make their car cool is to impress OTHER people, not themselves. You drive around feeling cool because you know OTHER people think it is cool. If you knew everyone thought it was an ugly POS you wouldn't feel good driving it because it would not be cool. Cool is a popularity contest. So know, everyone cares what people think about the aesthetics of their car, if they care enough to mod them.
P.S. Hate cowl hoods. So over done. Every back woods billy does it.
Really...cool is a popularity contest? If you build your car to others taste instead of your own, you're lame. All the people who think your popular and cool, because you built your car to impress them...are more lame than you would be. Some pople on here build to their own taste because they enjoy cars, not because they want their car to make them cool to others. With all due respect, I can tell you without hesitation, I put no thought into what others think of me or my car. I'm sure there are others on here the same way, we can't all be lumped together because we own similar cars. I like what I like, I'm not as cool as everyone else. And I'm not full of crap...you're cooler than me.

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The only thing I dislike is when someone takes a perfectly original car and modify it, When I decided to build the Trans Am I have I went looking for one that needed work, Not the original engine, trans, needing paint and body work, I knew exactly how I was going to modify the car and was not going to destroy something original, Some people hate what I have done to my car, And by reading the list here most of you hate it and I couldn't care at all because I am not building it for any of you, It is for me and it's what I want

I'm the opposite....I can't leave my cars alone. My friends give me a hard time because literally every winter my car goes "Under the knife" for something or another. One year it's an LSx swap, next year it's a custome 8.8" rear, another year it's for suspension goodies, etc.

This time around it's sitting on jackstands with no wheels until I order my new ones which is hopefully in a week. I just can't leave the darn thing alone.
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Re: Things I hate.......

Originally Posted by jayhawk
People saying they don't care what other people think about their car are full of crap. The reason people try to make their car cool is to impress OTHER people, not themselves. You drive around feeling cool because you know OTHER people think it is cool. If you knew everyone thought it was an ugly POS you wouldn't feel good driving it because it would not be cool. Cool is a popularity contest. So know, everyone cares what people think about the aesthetics of their car, if they care enough to mod them.
You are so wrong. I am not here to impress anyone with my car but my self, I do not need to be popular, I'm not the type of person that need things or other people to validate myself or my car, If every one thinks my car is a POS then it is there problem as it is there thought, I am building and modifying my car for my pleasure, because it's what I like to do,
Those that needs others to validate them selves and be popular needs to look at them self and ask why they NEED that. I myself am secure in who I am, So If that means you think I am full of crap, that's good, its your thought and you have the right to think that way, just know you're wrong.
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Hmmm apparently all my mods are hated. Carbs, cowl hood, 4th gen dash amd console. ...heck even a carbed gen 3 motor swap....oh no! !
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Hmmm apparently all my mods are hated. Carbs, cowl hood, 4th gen dash amd console. ...heck even a carbed gen 3 motor swap....oh no! !
Yes it's so God awful....you should just trailer it here and leave me the keys.
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Re: 3rd gen fashion "don'ts".....

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Hmmm apparently all my mods are hated. Carbs, cowl hood, 4th gen dash amd console. ...heck even a carbed gen 3 motor swap....oh no! !
Actually, your car is pretty cool......but add that gross Daytona hood, and all bets are off.
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Cut out for the fuel pump.
Carbon fiber, just for the sake of having it...somewhere.
LED strips!
Hacking/Cutting up sheet metal.
Fake projector lights.
Night shade tailights...sprayed too dark.
20 something wheels/stock brakes.
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Stickers (not the same as decals).
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Cd Deck in vents.
Sheetmetal gauge bezels.
Body kits.
Air diffusers.
White face gauges.
Broken/missing int trim.
Funky cup holder ideas...sorry.
Bowtie/emblems all over.
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Speakers on door panels.
Missing nuts/bolts.
Plus some that were posted already.
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I know I'll get burned for this, but I don't enjoy seeing a thirdgen with torque thrust II's on it. Great wheels, just don't seem to fit the stealth contour of the body. Also dislike cowls above 2 inches, especially when there is nothing on top that needs that extra room.

But some of the worst I've seen thirdgens equipped with are the drivers! You know, when you pull up to one with front end damage, one steelie, hatch mis-aligned, or even one that's sitting on 24's a foot off of the ground blaring Chris brown's "look at me now".......
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Hell, that single is by Chris Brown, right? Ha!
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I agree with you all Haha. Theres a girl with a Light blue 98 Trans am with what looks like a universal wing on it. It was a nice car, had the ram air hood on it, great condition. But i finally saw her in the gas station.So i quickly pulled next to her and got out and walked to her window and said "Nice car is this a nissan trans am?" and she said no its a pontiac.I responded with " Oh well i couldnt tell with your giant a$$ book shelf on the back.take it off, get a normal Trans am spoiler like mine has. Good day to you ma'am. And walked away. It was a wing like this

I walked away with the "F**k yea Meme in my head"
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Ram air hoods on Camaros. They look bad enough on TA's, let the Pontiac guys keep them.
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Hahaha! That is....not a good mod whatsoever. Yuck!
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Most of you people in here who "hate" these things about other people's cars wouldnt have the courage to tell them in person, and if you cant do that than I dont see a reason for doing it online either...

This thread is useless not autodetailing and appearance related and the only part thirdgen related is how you "hate" this or that about other peoples cars

it needs to be
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I hate people who whine about locking a thread because they're holier than the pope

I also hate the daytona hoods, the stupid ram air hood, lambo doors, ZR1 rims, ***** junk, bodykits, wings,... etc.
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