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Chazman
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September COTM **Voting**

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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 09:52 AM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

Originally Posted by carattini
How do I get people to vote for mine?
On this one, you can't buddy.

There was a previous thread where the cars were nominated.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by drjewalton

It's too bad we all aren't within closer proximity...we could put on one hell of a display at a car show/cruise!

Now, that would be something.....
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 09:57 AM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

Originally Posted by carattini
How do I get people to vote for mine?
Your car has to be nominated for the theme of car of the month by another member on thirdgen.org. Then if it passes nominations, it goes to voting.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 10:08 AM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

Hey! where are the people that should be voting for my car? I do not see them!!!!

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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 02:34 PM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

Originally Posted by scottmoyer
Hey! where are the people that should be voting for my car? I do not see them!!!!

Looks like they're voting for Tkern, Scott.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 03:24 PM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

Originally Posted by chazman
Looks like they're voting for Tkern, Scott.
LOL, this is a close race.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 04:12 PM
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Maybe for some, but not for all. It's all good though. I look at these competitions similarly to "good" car shows. I do not like winning a trophy at a show because the sponsors created so many classes that everybody wins their class. I like the shows that are people's choice or have fewer classifications. That allows for more competition. If I win a show with 15 others in my class, that's more satisfying than winning a class of 2 cars. What I see here with this voting is "People's Choice". And the people are speaking!

There are some very nice cars here and I'd love to go head to head at a national show with these cars any day.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 04:41 PM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

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Maybe for some, but not for all. It's all good though. I look at these competitions similarly to "good" car shows. I do not like winning a trophy at a show because the sponsors created so many classes that everybody wins their class. I like the shows that are people's choice or have fewer classifications. That allows for more competition. If I win a show with 15 others in my class, that's more satisfying than winning a class of 2 cars. What I see here with this voting is "People's Choice". And the people are speaking!

There are some very nice cars here and I'd love to go head to head at a national show with these cars any day.
To be honest, I'd rather be judged by knowledgeable, impartial judges, who really know their stuff, rather than people's choice.

I've been to so many shows which are "people's choice" and you can literally hear folks making their deals in the open. "I'll vote for you, if you vote for me." Or, "Bob says he'd buy me a drink if he wins, so I'll vote for him". That sort of thing. I see it all of the time.

With that said, this month's COTM, contains some of the nicest 3rd gens in the country. Certainly as good as any.

Like I said earlier, if there were ever to be a 3rd gen in a Concour D'Elegance - and one day there certainly will be - I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be one of the 10 cars here.

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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 04:58 PM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

Originally Posted by chazman
To be honest, I'd rather be judged by knowledgeable, impartial judges, who really know their stuff, rather than people's choice.

I've been to so many shows which are "people's choice" and you can literally hear folks making their deals in the open. "I'll vote for you, if you vote for me." Or, "Bob says he'd buy me a drink if he wins, so I'll vote for him". That sort of thing. I see it all of the time.

With that said, this month's COTM, contains some of the nicest 3rd gens in the country. Certainly as good as any.

Like I said earlier, if there were ever to be a 3rd gen in a Concour D'Elegance - and one day there certainly will be - I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be one of the 10 cars here.
I agree about the show thing. That happens at every show I've ever been to. Only got a second place win in 2 years, but the compliments alone are enough to keep me going back and showing off her beauty. It has always bugged me that the third gen has always had a bad rep in the car collecting community. People always just seem to glance at it and walk away, but its the true car enthusiast to appreciate how much work it really takes to make a car beautiful. Third gen or not. All of the cars here are amazing, and it has been a pleasure chatting with you guys and I hope one day we can all meet up and show off the true beauty that is the third gen Camaro and Firebird!
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 05:20 PM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

Originally Posted by chazman
To be honest, I'd rather be judged by knowledgeable, impartial judges, who really know their stuff, rather than people's choice.
I agree The vette crew has NCCC judging, it's as good as any judged show I have been to, would be cool to get that level of judging at a Camaro / firebird show.

I go to Carlisle for the vette show most every year, though I have been to the GM nationals once and was disappointed in the turnout. However, it might be a great place for us all to take our cars and promote it a bit to get the attendance up. The vette show last weekend was fully packed both Friday and Sat.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

Originally Posted by ev305tpi
I agree The vette crew has NCCC judging, it's as good as any judged show I have been to, would be cool to get that level of judging at a Camaro / firebird show.

I go to Carlisle for the vette show most every year, though I have been to the GM nationals once and was disappointed in the turnout. However, it might be a great place for us all to take our cars and promote it a bit to get the attendance up. The vette show last weekend was fully packed both Friday and Sat.
I was at GM nationals this year in Carlisle, good turn out for 5th gens...3rd gens there were a total of maybe 15-20 cars, 8 of which were in the stock class with me. Wish there would have been more, but I go there every year cuz it's 30 mins from my house. This year they did the participant judging and it was like the niche groups voting for each other instead of actual judges like years past. I hope they don't do that next year...wasn't what I thought they were doing. Oh well, it was a fun weekend anyway. A few of the pics I posted were from Carlisle like the one of my car beside my dads 69 Z/28 RS.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 08:37 PM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

Originally Posted by ev305tpi
I agree The vette crew has NCCC judging, it's as good as any judged show I have been to, would be cool to get that level of judging at a Camaro / firebird show.

I go to Carlisle for the vette show most every year, though I have been to the GM nationals once and was disappointed in the turnout. However, it might be a great place for us all to take our cars and promote it a bit to get the attendance up. The vette show last weekend was fully packed both Friday and Sat.
No doubt, the Corvette guys have their stuff together. We need, like a Bloomington Gold for F-cars. You know what? Scratch that. We need a Bloomington Gold for 3rd gen Camaros and Firebirds. That way we won't have to deal with the hordes of tastelessly modified 5th gens which always show up.

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Old Aug 29, 2013 | 01:31 AM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

They are all beautiful. This is my favorite though, the blue 84 Z28 with it's original paint job.
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Old Aug 30, 2013 | 02:36 AM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

Originally Posted by carattini
How do I get people to vote for mine?
Don't ask people to vote for you. Let the pictures speak for you.
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Old Aug 30, 2013 | 06:35 AM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

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Don't ask people to vote for you. Let the pictures speak for you.
He isn't in the COTM voting. He posted pictures of his car in this thread and Brandon deleted them. He wanted to know how he gets his car voted for, which we already told him.
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Old Aug 30, 2013 | 03:50 PM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

it will not let me vote but mines in for chazman
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Old Aug 30, 2013 | 04:32 PM
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it will not let me vote but mines in for chazman
That's because you haven't hit your 30 day membership mark yet.
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Old Aug 30, 2013 | 05:03 PM
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voted on the beautiful TTA
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Old Aug 30, 2013 | 05:10 PM
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voted on the beautiful TTA
Luis' TTA gets nicer by the day!

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Old Aug 30, 2013 | 05:20 PM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

drjewalton - You've got my vote!! Of course, I'm a bit biased I'll admit!!

Beautiful car, especially considering how much older it is than some of the other nominees....which are also awesome BTW.

Do me a favor though...ditch the "305 190 HP" decal on the air cleaner...it just doesn't belong on the car at all...

If mine were in that good of shape when I got it, it would remain factory original like yours! Again, nice ride buddy!
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Old Sep 2, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

I do have one question about the integrity of the voting here. How is it possible that we have a 1986 and a 1987 blue IROC-Z, one with 5k miles and looks absolutely mint and the other has 50k miles, non original battery, cracked outer window felts, steering wheel cover, no hood insulation, discolored interior fabrics, etc and the higher mileage car gets 3x the votes of the 5x mile car? I thought this months voting was supposed to be to represent the best STOCK restored or original survivor cars. I just thought that there were other cars in this category that deserve the top prize for being the best. Who did the voting here? Clearly chazman, ev305tpi, or djewalton represent the STOCK original or restored much better.

No offense to tkerniroc. He has a nice car, but again, if the vote is for a blue IROC-Z, why would his beat out the 5k mile original?
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Old Sep 2, 2013 | 03:17 PM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

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I do have one question about the integrity of the voting here. How is it possible that we have a 1986 and a 1987 blue IROC-Z, one with 5k miles and looks absolutely mint and the other has 50k miles, non original battery, cracked outer window felts, steering wheel cover, no hood insulation, discolored interior fabrics, etc and the higher mileage car gets 3x the votes of the 5x mile car? I thought this months voting was supposed to be to represent the best STOCK restored or original survivor cars. I just thought that there were other cars in this category that deserve the top prize for being the best. Who did the voting here? Clearly chazman, ev305tpi, or djewalton represent the STOCK original or restored much better.

No offense to tkerniroc. He has a nice car, but again, if the vote is for a blue IROC-Z, why would his beat out the 5k mile original?
Wow...thanks...I was shocked I won too, but it's clearly people's opinion on who they vote for. I know my car isn't "perfect" but it's a barn find, and clearly not in "perfect" shape. It's come a long way from what it was and I restored it to my liking as much as I can a little at a time. I have 3 kids that take up most of my time and extra money, and yeah thanks for pointing out the little things that make my car look a little less perfect than yours. The interior of the car is mostly original, and I don't want to change it for that reason. The only thing that isn't original in there is the headliner. I don't mind my faded plastics, or cracked window felts at this point. It's things that I can fix later on. My car is a restored car with a little more progress to go. It's not a 5k trailer queen, but it's people's opinion on who they vote for. I'm not trying to come off as an ahole, but we all know how many of the third gens have been beaten to death, and this one, I saved. Maybe not to your liking, but apparently other people do like it.

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Old Sep 2, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

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Wow...thanks...I was shocked I won too, but it's clearly people's opinion on who they vote for. I know my car isn't "perfect" but it's a barn find, and clearly not in "perfect" shape. It's come a long way from what it was and I restored it to my liking as much as I can a little at a time. I have 3 kids that take up most of my time and extra money, and yeah thanks for pointing out the little things that make my car look a little less perfect than yours. The interior of the car is mostly original, and I don't want to change it for that reason. The only thing that isn't original in there is the headliner. I don't mind my faded plastics, or cracked window felts at this point. It's things that I can fix later on. My car is a restored car with a little more progress to go. It's not a 5k trailer queen, but it's people's opinion on who they vote for. I'm not trying to come off as an ahole, but we all know how many of the third gens have been beaten to death, and this one, I saved. Maybe not to your liking, but apparently other people do like it.
Maybe has something to do with the fact that you didnt just go out and buy a pristine low miler. You have put time and effort into returning it as close to showroom condition as your time/budget will allow. Thats why you got my vote.
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Old Sep 2, 2013 | 06:05 PM
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Again, I'm not trying to dog your car. It was just a question regarding stock/restored original with two very similar cars. Please don't think my thoughts are because I didn't win. I am no where close to winning this, so if you were even remotely considered to be disqualified for any reason, it wouldn't benefit me at all. The fact that my car falls number 5 of 10 means that I have an average car. That's fine. It was just a question of what people used as a criteria when voting that gave you so many votes in comparison to some of the other cars that are near mint for this months guidelines.

Congratulations for winning. You do have a nice car. I don't know the previous condition so I don't know how far it may have come for what is seen now. That was why the question came up. Take this question and think of it as an innocent request, not an angry question of why. I am just wondering what people used to vote for your car in comparison to the others.

Trying to keep a car in nice condition is hard. I've had my car almost 14 years and have had to repair/replace many items. Trying to keep it looking all original is not an easy task, so buying a low miler isn't always the best way to go either. Many of the same parts need to be replaced on a low mile car as the high mile cars. I've probably replaced parts on my car that people with 3x the miles still haven't had to replace.

I reread my earlier post and it can easily be read that I was complaining. That was not the intent. It was all light-hearted. No malice or ill content. I apologize if it came out that way.
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Old Sep 2, 2013 | 06:21 PM
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Maybe has something to do with the fact that you didnt just go out and buy a pristine low miler. You have put time and effort into returning it as close to showroom condition as your time/budget will allow. Thats why you got my vote.

Well......don't underestimate the work and effort involved with keeping a car mint and factory fresh for a quarter of a century.

Just sayin'
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Old Sep 2, 2013 | 06:42 PM
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"Do me a favor though...ditch the "305 190 HP" decal on the air cleaner...it just doesn't belong on the car at all..."

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Already done...I agree with your statement. Thanks for the compliments!

Congrats to the winner! I'm very appreciative to be nominated for the COTM. It's always great to see and compete with very nice camaros and firebirds.

Would be even better to have a central place we could all road trip to to compare and admire each others cars in person!

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Old Sep 2, 2013 | 06:44 PM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

Originally Posted by drjewalton
"Do me a favor though...ditch the "305 190 HP" decal on the air cleaner...it just doesn't belong on the car at all..."

Already done...I agree with your statement.
Now....your car is perfect!
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Old Sep 3, 2013 | 05:41 AM
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Re: September COTM **Voting**

I understand, and yeah it sound a little different in my head. Chazman and I were neck in neck the whole time during voting. His car is absolutely amazing! I know my car isn't nearly as perfect has his DX3 stripe delete, but I know I have poured a lot of blood, sweat, and tears into my car. The first half of this year I couldn't even drive it because I had to disassemble the engine all the way down to the intake to fix a coolant leak, finally got that fixed, and I had a vacuum leak, got that fixed and then the alternator took a crap along with the battery. This car is a blast to drive and I enjoy all the compliments I get from the people who appreciate how much work it takes to either keep a car pristine or restore or a car to its former glory. Thankfully I had a low miles car to work with. Thanks to those who nominated me, and those of you that voted for me. It is greatly appreciated, and I'm glad you like what I'm doing with the car.
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