GTA with 17" Factory Mesh wheels
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Re: GTA with 17" Factory Mesh wheels
Doesn't look precise to me. Those look more like 19" or 20" wheels in scale.
Here are the same size wheels on a Formula with 275/40ZR17 tires... you can barely see my 92 GTA with the stock 16x9 wheels in the background. I have another of them side by side, let me find it.
Turns out I don't have those scanned, they were part of physical images and negatives for a photo shoot for a book at the time. Here is my GTA next to the other Firehawk that was at the same shoot...and a pic of all 3 staged for the shoot, too bad my GTA is so far away in this shot you can't get a good comparison.
Here are the same size wheels on a Formula with 275/40ZR17 tires... you can barely see my 92 GTA with the stock 16x9 wheels in the background. I have another of them side by side, let me find it.
Turns out I don't have those scanned, they were part of physical images and negatives for a photo shoot for a book at the time. Here is my GTA next to the other Firehawk that was at the same shoot...and a pic of all 3 staged for the shoot, too bad my GTA is so far away in this shot you can't get a good comparison.
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Re: GTA with 17" Factory Mesh wheels
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Re: GTA with 17" Factory Mesh wheels
Ok maybe youre right after looking at the formula. This editing program I found stated they are 17. With the attention to detail in the program I figured this was probably the closest I have seen.
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I have a 3D 1991/1992 Trans Am GTA in Autodesk 123D Make. I'm trying to slowly make it more precise, I'll see if I can just scale up the factory rims by an accurate factor. The app is made for 3D printing so it's about as realistic to an actual physical representation as possible.
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Re: GTA with 17" Factory Mesh wheels
Daumn. Thats slick
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Re: GTA with 17" Factory Mesh wheels
What I like is they are subtle and it updates the look without being audaciously excessive.
I would bet you could take an otherwise stock 3rd gen to a car show and some people will realize there is something different but just-can't-figure-it-out-what-it-is...
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I would bet you could take an otherwise stock 3rd gen to a car show and some people will realize there is something different but just-can't-figure-it-out-what-it-is...
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That's just how i like them built
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I have driven my car in the rain. Got caught in a pretty good rain one of the nights leading up to the Woodward Dream Cruise. I don't seek it out, but I won't leave the car in the garage because there is a cloud in the sky somewhere over Michigan. So I consider wet traction important.
I'm also going to try and stretch the season when I can use the car. Getting it out as early as possible, and running it as late as possible in Michigan, means you may well be out when temps drop below 40*. So a tire with a compound that still has good grip when cold is important to me.
Wet and cold traction may not be factors to those avoid that type of driving, who are more track focused, or live in climates where these conditions are not an issue. But they mean a lot to me.
I current have Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus tires, and cannot imagine being much happier with them.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=115
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"suitable," to me, means an aggressive-looking, directional tread and a Z speed rating.
also, a wide footprint (as in some 245s appear narrower than others).
also, a wide footprint (as in some 245s appear narrower than others).
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For sure, I have the Eibach Pro springs on my car so these are going to look awesome. The Eibach Sportlines would have been too low for my personal taste.
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That looks sooo good. I do agree that it needs a bit of a drop.
Id do 1" front an 3/4" ish in rear.
I dont like a car sitting on its bumpstops. They just look goofy and unusable to me.
Id do 1" front an 3/4" ish in rear.
I dont like a car sitting on its bumpstops. They just look goofy and unusable to me.
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Re: GTA with 17" Factory Mesh wheels
Well, these are Z rated. And directional. As to width, I don't have anything to directly compare them to. For tread...any of the A/S tread tires are just not as aggressive looking as the old block-treaded Gatorbacks were, IMO. SO that might be a compromise you'd be comfortable with.
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Re: GTA with 17" Factory Mesh wheels
I had Yokohama ES100's for about 10 years on my Car (took them off and they were still perfect inside & out from appearance but it was time for them to go)... I loved the way the Yokohama tires looked on the car, it looked like a race tire. I replaced them with Firehawk Wide Oval Indy 500 tires and am happy with the profile... Besides, what could go wrong with getting Firehawk tires on a Firebird.
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I've read a lot of good things about those 'stones. Quite a few happy owners on the Corvette forums.
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So, anybody know what the deal is with the offset? Is there still a front and back? Are the fronts still different than the rears? Lip the same size? Or are they like our stockers?
Reason I ask, I always preferred the look of fronts on all four. Is this that look?
And whats the widest tire that can be put on safely? I see 275 40's in the Formula pic. But can 295's fit the rear?
IMO 295 rear and a 275 front would be a nice combo.
Reason I ask, I always preferred the look of fronts on all four. Is this that look?
And whats the widest tire that can be put on safely? I see 275 40's in the Formula pic. But can 295's fit the rear?
IMO 295 rear and a 275 front would be a nice combo.
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Re: GTA with 17" Factory Mesh wheels
To me, it looks like they have the same dish front and rear.
Hawks web site has the BS information listed.
Hawks web site has the BS information listed.
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Re: GTA with 17" Factory Mesh wheels
So, anybody know what the deal is with the offset? Is there still a front and back? Are the fronts still different than the rears? Lip the same size? Or are they like our stockers?
Reason I ask, I always preferred the look of fronts on all four. Is this that look?
And whats the widest tire that can be put on safely? I see 275 40's in the Formula pic. But can 295's fit the rear?
IMO 295 rear and a 275 front would be a nice combo.
Reason I ask, I always preferred the look of fronts on all four. Is this that look?
And whats the widest tire that can be put on safely? I see 275 40's in the Formula pic. But can 295's fit the rear?
IMO 295 rear and a 275 front would be a nice combo.
John
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Re: GTA with 17" Factory Mesh wheels
Not sure if it would be a problem or not, I know my 9.5" wide rear wheels with tires would hit the fender going over bumps if I lowered it too much.
Had a friend with a Datsun 260Z, he had these wide tires on it and every time he hit a big bump the tires would rub on the fender lip... You could feel it slow down the car too when he did, it was like tapping the brakes.
Had a friend with a Datsun 260Z, he had these wide tires on it and every time he hit a big bump the tires would rub on the fender lip... You could feel it slow down the car too when he did, it was like tapping the brakes.
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Re: GTA with 17" Factory Mesh wheels
WOW. I really thought there would be alot more interest in these wheels. The Thirdgen community has been asking for these for Years now! Unless there is another thread about them?
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Re: GTA with 17" Factory Mesh wheels
I have Eibach Sportlines on my GTA and I kinda wish my car sat just a little lower... I just wanna close-up the wheel gap a tad more. I had planned on getting these wheels custom made in an 18 inch diameter, but I'll definitely pick up a set of these 17 inch Hawk replicas instead since it will be a nice $6,000 cheaper option.


I understand you think it should sit lower but holy hell is that a mean looking GTA. One of the best I've ever seen
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