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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by nick418
Tom why does it have to be locked?

well, its not "apperance" related...and with how strict they usualy are on the board... i'm just suprised its still going
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by imokureok4
do you think i can smoke my tires on an 87 305 TBI stock??
come on... i got a mostly stock 1986 305 tpi and when the posi does work i can lay some nasty patches. i wish i had the pics also on a good day, when the posi works lol, if i mash it in 1st when the auto hits second it will leave a 1-2 ft patch sometimes
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by IROCThe5.7L
This is what I do.


Slowly lift your foot off the break, then take that foot, and smash the gas
thats how you do it

when i had my 305tbi i couldn't do it without cheating (power brake, using a turn)
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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Here is what I do:

Get her up to cruising speed, or about 45-50 mph, mash the gas, and try to keep her in a straight line when the converter flashes. The look on people's faces when they see you doing a burnout at 50 mph is priceless!
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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I just took the easy route and bought a line lock.
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by Azrael91966669
my 3.1 will smoke its tire yes one tire
limited slip sucks sometimes huh
just putting it in drive and not overdrive makes a huge differance
but for a lot of smoke power brakeing works
to do less damage ease on to the gas dont just romp on it
why dose it also seem that when when i go from reverse and in throw it in drive it spins both tires
its weird like some times its posi lol
arent limited slip and posi pretty much the same thing?

and i dont see how putting it in drive makes a huge difference rather than over drive, unless your spinning the tires through all of the gears and not hitting overdrive

it spins both tires when you start from reverse and throw it into drive because its actually using the power of the engine to spin the tires, not the front tires holding the car back
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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posi is all time locking both wheels limited slip is when you burn out one tire spins and then the other one locks up to try to give you more traction so eventually limited slip will turn into a posi =)
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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Posi and limited slip are the same exact things under different names. There's no if, and, or buts about it. "All the time locking" would be a spool or a welded rear end.
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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If you wanna do alot of burnouts, get a line lock. No sense in prematurely wearing your rear brakes by footbraking all the time. Or if you must footbrake all the time, install a proportioning valve and set less pressure to the rear. I got no problem getting my IROC to smoke, but I use momentum to get the tires spinning (so not really burnouts, more like smoking donuts). I have to admit though, in the past I have footbraked to smoke em. Just dont do it all the time and you'll be OK.
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 07:44 AM
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Either A: punch it from a stop, I had smoke rolling off the road even after I pulled in the driveway and walked up on the porch. I let off after first gear but left about an 80 foot patch, still there one month later

Or B: Manually drop into 1st under 20 and hammer it, squeals down the road.

That's it for me,
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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Any RWD car can foot brake burn. For example my friends pos 4 banger S-10 can foot brake. Spinning with out using a line lock or brakes shows real power. Depending upon tires and rear end ratio and posi or not. My L60 H.O. used to spin pretty well threw the first half of 1st and would chirp and slid a bit sideways going into 2nd. Sadly it no longer does that because the transmission is a P.O.S.(that’s why I am not driving it till spring when it get a WC T-5). Also almost any Straight shift manual car can spin from a stop. For example my daily driver a ford aspire can light them up with only 62 hp!!! :rockon: The shock of dropping the clutch brakes the static friction, once that is broken the friction to keep the tires going is much lower.

NEVER drop an auto tranny from Neutral to drive or roll backwards and drop it into drive VERY VERY BAD for the clutches in you tranny and the torque converter. And just about everything in your drivetrain! you have been warned!

P.S. sorry for long post

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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER WILL....
That really did make me laugh out loud.
Old Jan 8, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by RevItUpZ28
That really did make me laugh out loud.
same here
Old Jan 8, 2005 | 11:44 PM
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I've got the opposite problem, how do you keep the tires from roasting? I've got KDW tires too.
Old Jan 8, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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I think Line Lockers are pretty good i think i saw them in summit for like 70 bucks or somethin for the kit.... I think it works when u have the line lockers engaged u put your foot on the brake and it only uses the front brakes....does anyone have them cuz I really want them
Old Jan 8, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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o and for that one post that was one of the first.... ***DO NOT*** put your car in reverse and try to smoke the tires especially if u have directional tires....ALOT of wheel hop and something is going to break loose tranny, rear end somethin
Old Jan 8, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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o and for that one post that was one of the first.... ***DO NOT*** put your car in reverse and try to smoke the tires especially if u have directional tires....ALOT of wheel hop and something is going to break loose tranny, rear end somethin
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by megaracerx
well, its not "apperance" related...and with how strict they usualy are on the board... i'm just suprised its still going
sure its "apperance" related.. I love the site of a rwd V8 roasting them up!
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 12:58 AM
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My stock 305 lg4 will spin the tires from a dead stop if you slam it, but, I havent seen any smoke, so I guess it's not any "roasting". and it don't spin them much either.

To get some smoke, I step medium to light on the brake, and apply the gas to full throttle. First it spins, and it takes a second or two to start smoking, after that I let of the gas, and spin away.

I have previousely rolled in reverse, shifted to drive, and mashed it. And it sure spins the tires good then, going sideways and everything.

This whole neutral drop thing seems like a crazy thing to do, full rpms, and suddenly into gear?

It didn't feel like going from a reverse roll into drive, and mash it after the tranny have engaged gear would cause the same strain on the tranny since the tires spins emmidietly, but I dont know, maybe it's real bad.
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 01:00 AM
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Heck, I can get my 2.8 to do it (with a little water and a left turn). All I can say is there's nothin' like the smell of smokin' tires.

Old Jan 9, 2005 | 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by tilstad

I have previousely rolled in reverse, shifted to drive, and mashed it. And it sure spins the tires good then, going sideways and everything.
Ouch! I hope you don't do that too often!
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 01:28 AM
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Yeah, I've always wanted to try that Mad Max thing where you slam it it reverse and hit the gas to stop. I'm too afraid to try it myself. I wonder if that car drove away from that?

I'm actually guilty of slamming my old Goat into first from 25 and nailing it. Boy did that thing get down and move. It was geared really low.



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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 03:37 AM
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Originally posted by z28kindaguy
Ouch! I hope you don't do that too often!
I think I have done it two times or so... backing out from a car wash once. I still have the feel that it hurts less on the drive train than say power braking, especially since it makes the tires spin emmediatly, and not having to overcome the braking force.

What's the saying, "traction blows up parts" or something...
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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you can get line lock from jegs for 50$- it works great, i use it on the GN to spool the turbo- but somtimes when you just feel the need i wet the tires up a lil then lock it and roast them- the hurst roll controll kit is the nicest- but you can get a sienoid from jegs- just make sure you get the instillation kit too- somtimes without it it will be a pain in the ***
Old Jun 4, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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u have to be joking i ahve a factory firebird 350 tpi with no major upgrades except plugs and stuff like that and just from dead stop i hit the gas gets them spinning well enough to if i cut the wheel ido donuts like crazy and if im pull out of some where with the wheels cut and i hit the gas it likes to go all the way around.
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