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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 10:52 PM
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Hear me out....Shaker Hood Scoop!

Ok, I am seriously thinking of trying this. I love these things. has anyone seen a thirdgen Firebird with one of these Shaker Hood Scoops actually functional and stuff on a thirdgeneration Firebird? I would really like to do this to my car, but I'm not sure as to how much this is going to cost me. I am guessing about $20-$30 for the scoop top. I am thinking of somehow adapting this to the Open Element I already have so I do not need to have the giant filter housing that it normally went with. Anyway, I am also a little iffy about cutting a giant hole in my hood, so I am thinking of getting an old hood that is in somewhat of bad shape. That will run what? Somewhere around $100? Plus repainting it? I think I will paint that myself, so about $50-$100 to do that. Then, there is the Firebird logo for the hood. I am thinking that will run me somewhere around $100. I don't know. I couldn't find any on ebay or anything. If anyone knows what the price of these are, let me know.

So I'm up to about what? $350?
Well, if I can cut any corners, it would be a nice mod.

Let me know.

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Old Apr 22, 2002 | 01:07 AM
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This topic came a up a long time ago. Me and another member got to talkin' about and it and came up with the idea to adapt a 2nd T/A shaker setup into a 3rd gen. You could probably find a old T/A in a junkyard and get its shaker parts, if your really good you could cut the center of the shaker hood and weld it into the your cars hood, that way the hole would be braced. You might want to do a search and see if that topic comes up. But to be honest with you your price estimates are not even close.
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Old Apr 22, 2002 | 01:37 AM
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What are my prices going to be closer to? Please let me know. If I can do it cheap enough, I might actually do it. So, let me know what you think the prices should be. A price breakdown would be great.
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Old Apr 22, 2002 | 10:01 AM
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Do a search for the Bandit 2 firebirds... they had shaker hoods installed on them.
Pretty sweet looking, if you ask me...
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Old Apr 22, 2002 | 04:03 PM
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last i checked.....brand new 2nd gen style hood birds were $350
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Old Apr 22, 2002 | 05:14 PM
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Yeah, that's why I have decided to hold off on the hood bird until later, if I do it at all. I know it is the important part, but I can't afford that right now. I think the most important part is the metal work that must be done.

Anyway, if anyone knows where I can find one of these Shaker Hood Scoop setups, for $50 or less, let me know. I have found a possible one for sale online that is $50.
I will also try visitng some salvage yards sometime soon. Hopefully I will be able to find the hood and scoop for $150 or less combined. That will make this whole project a pretty cheap one considering the sort of work that will be done.
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Old Apr 22, 2002 | 05:47 PM
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here a link with a few pics

http://bandit2proamregistry.homestead.com/BanditII.html
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Old Apr 22, 2002 | 06:00 PM
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I'm actually working on that same thing. I have an old shaker, and an old 3rdgen hood to use. I haven't gotten around to putting everything together yet...too many other projects going on right now.

As for the hood bird, I think you can get a JC Whiteny one for like $50. If the shaker looked nice, I was considering a full T/A graphics package, including custom shaker emblems (i.e. "5.0 Litre" or 5.0/TA"

I'll try to get off my *** and get together. I will then post some pics.


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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 10:58 AM
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in my opinion shakers belong on cudas and challengers. thats just my opinion though. if you do it post some pics. id be interested to see how it looks.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by heavy_chevy29
in my opinion shakers belong on cudas and challengers. thats just my opinion though. if you do it post some pics. id be interested to see how it looks.
They had shaker hoods on 2ndgen T/As at the same time 'cudas and Challengers,and long after so wtf?
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 11:51 AM
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no no, you got me all wrong. i was just sayin that i think the look better in cudas and challengers. i also believe they look just as nice on the 2nd gen firebird. i didn't mean to bash the f-body car. i'm sorry.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 11:55 AM
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Oh,I see.My bad.
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 10:48 AM
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What is the clearance on one of these scoops? I know there isn't a lot of room under our hoods. I am almost up to the limit already, and that is only with an open element. But I still have the hood cover under there. I think I might take it out, since I see so many pics of cars without it, and they seem to be doing fine.

This is a daily driver, so will it still be safe without the insulation under there?
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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If I remember correctly, there where two styles of shakers for the T/A one being functional and one not. The later style scoop was from 77-81 was not only not functional but I believe it was a bit smaller and squared off compared to the earlier style. But don't hold me to this, I'm just saying what I've seen, plus I've got a '81TA parts car (and no, i will not sell the parts) so i have an idea what the later style shaker looks like. But I believe shakers belong on older cars, ala mustang, cuda, challenger, firebird, etc. but that's just my opinion.
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 03:06 PM
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WHY DID NO ONE BOTHER TO TELL ME THOSE THINGS ARE ALMOST THE PRICE OF A NRE HOOD? AND THAT'S JUST FOR THE SCOOP!

I guess this idea is going to be put in the corner and burned. I'd much rather put that money to new heads instead of a scoop.
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 04:03 PM
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Where exactly are you looking? If you find this stuff in the junkyard it is going to be dirt cheap. Pick-a-Part style places with fixed prices don't give a crap if that aircleaner is a shaker too. Plus, the price of a the 2nd gen shaker hood and 3rd gen stock hood would be less than $100 for both. Where stuff is going to get expensive is if you have to start hunting down little parts that are missing or if you try to buy each piece seperately. Making a 3rd gen shaker wouldn't be to tough it is possible to add the section of 2nd gen hood. Body and paint work is what is gonna be expensive, if your car has decent paint, you won't be happy with shoddy work on the hood and a $50 paint job. BTW, the sealed later style shaker can be made functional easily. This is not a bad idea just try to be realistic. Anything is possible but this is a custom job and custom isn't usually cheap. Cutting a hole in hood and sticking on the shaker isn't all there is to it. If you want this to look nice you want to try and replicate a factory installation. You won't get factory for $350, if you really want a shaker, save your money and do it right the first time. If your patient you can find the shaker parts cheap, spend some time planning out the swap. Having a plan will prevent you from wasting money. Good luck
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 04:38 PM
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There is a thread around titled something like "Pictures of Cowl hoods on firebirds" that has a shaker scoop on a TTA. Try searching for it if you want another pic.
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 05:28 PM
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assuming you can find the shaker scoop i dont think this will be too hard. Buy one of those K&N extreme lids for your original air filter setup (get an 11" unit, this way it will only cover the filter itself, there should be an open gap that remains between the outside of the filter, and the housing wall.), and slap the scoop where the old lid would have gone. Leave the OEM snorkel(s) so it can still draw in air at low speed. then get a hood out of a junkyard ( i pulled one for 40 bucks), and cut the hole. If you have access to a second gen firebird hood, measure the size of the hole, and replicate it exactly onto your hood. That should" take care of it. Total you looking at about 150 bucks, and it's a look that would be totally yours...

Eric
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