What exactally makes an IROC an IROC?

Was it just a body trim package? Are there suspension upgrades for it as well? What would it take to make an early 3rd Gen Z28 completely IROC?

Thanks.

 

you can't make it a complete IROC, b/c it is not one. You would need the nose, all the ground fx, embles, seats, dash emblem, sway bars, wonder bar, hi-effort steering box, TPI, TBI, or Carb, IROC steering wheel, the 85 up shifter **** and interior parts....dude....just go by one...besides if you make a fake IROC you are just cheating the real IROC owners.

 

also hood, spolier, carpeted interior, rocker stripes, grill, wheels.

After all that you could afford a great IROC.

 

Its not a matter of making a fake IROC, and maybe my origional wording was not correct. It is a question of what is different, and what is better. Since I can assume that the main body is the same, then the options that came with the origional IROC package can be put in place, While it may not be a "TRUE" IROC, if it has all the parts then it should ride/perform like one, right? If I have to replace my steering box, is the IROC one better, would it bolt up? And what is a "Wonder Bar?"

I already have a loaded Z28 that has a spoiler,carpeted interior, door panles and all, the ground effects are all there, the hood is a working cowl induction composite one that was offered in 82, and the wheels are the alum. alloy Z28 wheels.

The interior of mine is going to be replace, so can I use IROC parts if I can find them and are they better than the ones from an 82 model year. I do not want to create an IROC,or badge mine as one, I just want whats best in my car.

I do realize that the differences between a SC camaro and a Z28 camaro are large, and that is why I searced out a Z28 camaro to start with. I already have a line on a TPI engine and a 700R4 tranny to replace the origional drivetrain, I am just looking for info on what is best to use for the rest.

No offense, and I would not think of it as cheating a "Real IROC" owner, but it should be a compliment to one that I want mine to be as good as his.

 

They covered everything I could think of. I have put all IROC parts, sway bars, bushings, 350 TPI engine, entire dash assembley, rims, 9 bolt disc rear end, tail lights, front piece, hood and wonder bar into my 89' RS, only becase the IROC I started to build turned out to have bad frame damage. Despite urging from friends I left the RS badges on beacause I agree with camaro6spd and Ergo60 it is what it is although much better. I think if you just upgrade across the board things such as the suspension, engine, braking interior you will have a Z28 that handels and runs like and IROC. Looks such as hood and ground effects and taillights are optional.

 

Exactlly, About the rear end, can they be directly bolted into an 82 like mine? I have the 10 bolt posi with disc brakes. Would there be any advantages to this?

And I am still wondering what a "Wonder Bar" is

Is there quite a difference in the suspension parts from a Z28 camaro and an IROC camaro. And does anybody have a link or information on the differences. I am mostly interested in the handling aspect, not so much the power since I am actually opting for a 305 in mine. I know, I know, but the 305 fits my driving style.

 

a wounder bar is the bar that goes between the two wheels, the iroc's are thicker making in stronger and handle better.

 

The iroc steering wheel wasnt in all irocs. I got a regular one in mine that is the one that is also in z-28s and transams. The engines are the same ones offered in z-28s. The seats are the same, i see no difference. All te other stuff sure... especially the cool rims.

 

Well, I think my car is FAR past stock IROC specs (no flame intended).. Just use aftermarket suspension parts, engine combos, tires and wheels, etc. etc. etc. and your set

Now if I had all the money in the world I would have a BONE STOCK 85 IROC for "collectability" also

 

All you people named were all the decorative parts to the IROC-Z, not a single IROC-Z owner replied? Or did I miss someone?

Like the WS6 the IROC-Z has level 3 sups., so you'd need to upgrade that. The IROC-Z wasn't a just an pretty decorative package, it was an performance option just like the WS6, a mater of fact it prolly is the Camaro's version of WS6, now do you get my drift?

There are also the motor diiferances to, that aren't found in just your plain jain Z28, go read the tech boards...

 

Wow, there is so much bad information in some of the above posts I'm absolutely stunned

 

duh

 

I would like to take this moment and say I dont own an Iroc, so dont take my info for 100% correct, sorry for the confusion.

 

I too will apologize for offending the great "IROC" by even suggesting that the plain jane Z28 could ever come close.



Well.....How about posting the REAL information then, dont hold it back, let us in on the secret

Am I correct that the wonder bar is also known as a sway bar???

How about just narrow the replies down to the differences in the body and the interior. I will try to focus my suspension questions in another forum.

 

A wonder bar is this

not a sway bar, its a support bar for the sway bar

 

OK, OH WISE IROC owner it IS NOT a support for the sway bar.. it is a support for the steering box to the frame "rail" they had a tendency to tear the frame under "hard" cornering... like I said:

Just use aftermarket suspension parts, engine combos, tires and wheels, etc. etc. etc. and your set

No flames, but to me the IROC is just a sticker once you buy "real" aftermarket parts.... BUT stock for STOCK sure the IROC is better it is suppose to be

 

So do they call it a "Wonder" bar since most people only Wonder what it does????? A steering support arm makes sense, we use them on Jeeps since running really big tires tends to stress the mounts. But it does look like a good option to use.

Any more?????

 

As far as I know:

Lower ride height
stiffer springs and shocks
wonder bar
better front and rear swaybars
iroc stickers & dash emblem
ground effects same color as body

some of the other stuff was kind of touchy as far as year to year options. I think the earlier year Irocs all got 16" wheels, and the later years(maybe after they cancelled the Z-28 option and just left the Iroc-Z) could have 15 or 16 inch wheels stock.

 

IROC's came and went, but those who enjoyed their cars, made them IROC's. Some people just happened to end up with them, maybe because it was cool at the time, but it is my ( and most everyone's hope ) hope that every IROC no matter how many owners it goes through, ends up in the possession of someone who will enjoy it, and appreciate it.

So, to answer your question, its the Owner that makes the IROC.

 

Well put!!!!

 

yeh you could buy a IROC and replace everything that truly makes it an IROC

or

buy another thirdgen for less and put the same parts on

but then you wouldn't have the "IROC-Z" sticker. That adds 15hp, I swear

 

If you did IROC out any other camaro wouldn't be considered an IROC "Clone" or "Cloned" IROC . Because none of the serial numbers would match the VIN number of your orginally started car if you remoded everything on your camaro to an IROC . You always here that about those first gen camaros. Like a Cloned Yenko, or Cloned Nickey or an SS "clone". I saw a '69 Cloned Nickey that was originally an RS but it had a 502 ci engine and striaght headers the thing was an absolute beast.

 

i am an IROC owner and hit most of the stuff....i did not feel like listing it all....and the stuff i missed was added....It is like going out buying a Z28 and putting SS stuff on it and calling it an SS.....the people who bought the SS bought it because it was one....alot of ppl i know put the IROC apperiance stuff on there cars and they don't upgrade the suspension and everything eles.

 

i just want the performance stuff manly, but my car will have the hood, etc just becuase they look better