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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 10:20 PM
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4th Gen Gauge Cluster

anyone try to install a fourth gen gauge cluster?
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 12:22 AM
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Been thier doen that, the dash and center console from an ls1.
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 01:16 AM
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Been thier doen that, the dash and center console from an ls1.
oooo.... cool guy
how bout some details man!? dont just say you did it. whatd you have to do? any mods necessary?
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 06:30 AM
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If ya do a search theres tons of stuff on that subject.......
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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Im not trying to be rude or anything but use the friggen search button. This topic and the HSR install gotta be the 2 most talked about subjects on this board.
I have put a 4th gen dash and console in. what I had to do cannot be explained in detail here and YES mods where nessesary for it to fit right. Let just say it takes a little massaging to get it in there and look right. The best install Ive seen is Custom X's. The red and black look tuff
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by EatFordShtDodge
oooo.... cool guy
how bout some details man!? dont just say you did it. whatd you have to do? any mods necessary?
Not a good way to get me to unleashe the fury of pics and info......

Search search search! then ask questions. Ive answered the basic questions a bijillion times in tooo many threads.
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 01:41 AM
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i sense some hostility in these posts


just didnt occur to me to search until after the fact
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 01:49 AM
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Originally posted by EatFordShtDodge
i sense some hostility in these posts


just didnt occur to me to search until after the fact
no hostility, just tired of posting the same old answers
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 10:43 AM
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Will the HSR clear my hood?

Wny won't this fit in my car?
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 02:06 PM
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zepher, can you explain why there is a penny in the top of your cluster?
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by Zepher
Will the HSR clear my hood?

Wny won't this fit in my car?
Beacuse its only a 120 cluster and you need this:




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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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or at least just this:

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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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Custom X:
can you reset the odometer on that cluster ?
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Old Mar 29, 2003 | 12:17 AM
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ls1 edit you should be if im not mistaken.
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Old Mar 29, 2003 | 12:26 AM
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is there a gap between the back of the dash and the base of the windshield?
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Old Mar 29, 2003 | 12:38 AM
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just like the stock one....yes.
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Old Mar 29, 2003 | 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by BOTTLEDZr28
zepher, can you explain why there is a penny in the top of your cluster?
On one of the other boards I post at, you are supposed to have a penny in the picture to prove that it was taken by you, or someone on the board.

For example, lets say I posted a pic of an LT5 motor in my garage, for all they know, it could be anyones garage and the image probably came from the internet somewhere.
If you put a penny in the picture, it will show that you or someone on that board took that pic.
I'd tell you the site, but Rule #1 is to not talk about OT on sites other than OT.
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Old Mar 29, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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good ol ot........just as good as club si hehe.


Actually thats a great rule for a board, especailly flame/open boards.
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Old Mar 29, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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you can see from my pic, the gap near the windshield. You will have to cut the 4th gen dash pad. I finsihed mine the day I took that pic. it takes a little time to get the pad to sit in there just right and will require some trial fit and trimming to get it right.
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Old Mar 29, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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Coudlnt get mine to sit right. the guage cluster area just sits too high and the pad 's contour wasnt steep enough to look good imo so now im still playignb with a fibreglass/bondo peice.
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Old Mar 29, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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Custom, is the 98+ dash pad different from mine? Iknow mine is a flimsy POS plastic. I was so nervous that I was gonna crack it when I was cutting it. I know what your saying about the contour of the pad once its cut. Im still gonna fine tune mine in the spring.
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Old Mar 29, 2003 | 12:29 PM
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ya its plastic but the contour is different from the 96-93 pads. The pad actually sits on top of the cluster area, where as the 96-93's cluster area is its own peice for the most part and goes down to meet the where the pad would be.

Kinda hard to explain leme see if i got pics or hell ill just go take a pic maybe lol.
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Old Mar 29, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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so whats the ideal year to pull a dash from... 93-96 or 97+.....or something... whatever
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Old Mar 29, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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The 93-96 dashes are all the same so it dont matter on them. The only slight differnece in them is the 93 gauge cluster has yellow numbers instead of white like all the 94 and newers. Gm changed the design of the camaro dash in 97, which is the style that Custom X has. I doubt that 1 is any harder to install then the other. So its your styling choice on which one you think looks better.
Oh ya the 93-96 gauge cluster is easier to splice into our 3rd gens. Custom X can explain his setbacks with his fuel gauge and stuff.

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Old Mar 29, 2003 | 09:45 PM
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the 93-96 dashes are the same. the change came in the 97 model yr (last lt1 yr, but new interior, kinda liek the 90 thirdgens).

The ls1 cluster has a cpl issues you have to over come:

Fuel Gauge being comp controlled.
Tach is calibrated for a 4cyl


Both can be solved but requires extra parts.

Its pretty much what you liek best, althoughn it seems the 93-96 dashpad is a much better fit then the 97-02's.
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 12:20 PM
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yes the plastic dash piece has to be trimed and cut to fit, i used a skill saw with very fine tpi on blades, and went slow, bucuase it will crack if your not carefull, as far as the guages, im not sure what i want to do there yet .
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by FIREBIRD7777
yes the plastic dash piece has to be trimed and cut to fit, i used a skill saw with very fine tpi on blades, and went slow, bucuase it will crack if your not carefull, as far as the guages, im not sure what i want to do there yet .
if your buickgsx, didnt you mod the stock guages to fit in the 4th gen cluster?
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Old Mar 31, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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yes i did, but have not got them working, since i had no motor in the car, but to be honest im not to thrilled with my own gauge work, so after i get the motor in and all, i might just start tracing all the wires, and put in electronic gauges, , either way im still undecided on what to do, right now im working on my 383 , after its been in the freaking shop for 2 and half years,
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Old Mar 31, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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I love your Camaro!
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 03:51 PM
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I am pretty set on putting a 98+ firebird dash in my 1991 z, just love the looks of it. I like the gauge cluster you have think it's a 1997. Year doens't really matter but want one with that look and one that looks good to install. So if i do go with the 98 dash what gauges you think I should use.
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