who has created a spray booth in their garage or carport.

how did you do what did you use for fans, what type of paint did you spray. How did you handel flamible paints with fans or was it a non issue.

I have a two car garage i am plasticing up a spray booth for final coating my car. i am a little conserned with fans and explosions.
house of color 3 stage paint. or maybe i have no need to worry.

i have 2 window dual fans i was figuring would work good under the garage door for exhaust but that pulls the paint through them. unless i make that intake and let pressure be the exhaust.
im not worried about using the fans again i got them for this purpose

i am using a respirator but should i need a fresh air one instead of chemical filters. Does it make that much of a diffrence for one paint job.

pics would be great if you have them.

any help would be cool.
jeff

heres my quicky idea in a photo for the garage door area i have two of these fans.

Jeff

if u have neighbors they are gonna hate you

get some thin window ac unit filters and tape the filters over the fans and any open windows to keep debi from comming in. and don't leave a car parked in your drive way with the fans there or you will have specs of paint on it. Use some plastic to cover up the walls and stuff you dont want to paint, including the floor or wet the floor before starting. Early morning is the best time to avoid unwanted bugs also.

neighboors are quite aways away. hope they have the windows closed.

the blue things are cheap furnace filters, maybe i need a pleated filter instead.

so that would be my exhaust, now all i need is an intake fresh air. At work we have this hepa filter unit that is use for dust control during construction. simular to a machine used for asbestos abatement. it is slightly big but can be ducted into garage. i figured flex duct to ceiling would give me a down draft booth.

so those little fans have a dc or ac direct drive motor with a transformer above them i think this would be safe for flamible issues.

i do not have a gas hot water heater so no pilot light there and my a/c on my furnace i will shut down just to be extra safe even though the garage will be plasticed off from the basement.

i figured on wetting the floor, and another tip i saw is to spray the plastic walls with hair spray 1/2 hour before shooting to give it a static charge to attract dust and hold it.

Jeff

Another tip is to make sure the cars battery is disconnected & to ground the chassis. A couple folks I know just drape a chain from the front frame to the damp concrete floor. One guy grounds it with a metal cable run between the subframe and an old pipe that was driven into the ground. The grounding is supposed to help keep down the static attracted lint.

While you're filtering the air around the car, dont forget to make sure that you have CLEAN air. At least a respirator filter that's rated for the paints that you'll be using. Even better, see if you can rent a fresh air hood/mask. What level of protection does HoK call for? I've never used their paints & the info isn't so easy for me to find on their website...

Even the not-so-toxic color coats are pretty nasty... Fresh air breathing aparatus is called for by most of the clear coats, or any coat, using hardeners. Nasty Stuff! Yeah, it can be done without it...but not too many times without lasting effects. One paint job using catalyst can ruin your lungs forever - not worth the $$ saved if you can't afford to do it safely.

Enjoy the experience! I remember my first driveway paint job. It was a great learning experience & let me get the color & coverage just the way I wanted it.

hmm guess i gotta find a fresh air machine. i wonder if my rental center has one. i do have a 3m respirator but maybe i should play it a little safer than that.

i would grab the tank full mask system from work but it may get paint on it and then crap would hit the fan. full mask runs on medical air for decon unit.

Jeff

That full-mask system would be the ticket but not worth your job. Doing it yourself, no matter what the reason, $ , fun, satisfaction, wild a$$ paint scheme, isn't worth harming your health, possibly for life. Sounds like you're on the right track with safety being your first concern.

Were you able to find out anything about the handling & breathing equip. specs from HoK? They should be your first resource for the breathing, flamability and other health/environmental safety info... not my out of date and possibly extreme concerns.

I miss the smell of the reducers & thinners rolling out of the old (70's) paint booths, doing a fast flash lacquer paint job in the driveway and washing the epoxy & poly resins off in a vat of lacquer thinner... Knowing what I do now, boy was I STUPID!

no looked at the tech pages but no real info msds or other. i'll have to see the sheets when the paint arrives.

i am planning on painting my truck after the car so buying a fresh air system would not be a total waste of money. If i could score a slightly used one that would rock...

Jeff
oh well found a new one 379.00 hobby aire with 40 ft of hose (autobody Depot) that will get me around, i can wear it to bed to bug the wife when i'm done with it...... i can say it for in case of night farts.....lol

Excellent price! And excellent alternative use

[RANT]Kind of P!$$ed me off the HoK didn't have more info on their site. Really poor info. They do hobbiest trade & sell via web so the MSDS & other safety info should be easily found. Kinda stinks to spend a lot of $$ on the product only to find that safe application is beyond your means... Wonder how many folks spray it anyways???
[/RANT]

I used furnace filters across the bottom of the garage door and taped off the top of the door. Used exhaust fan in window to pull air in the filters and exhaust air out. Do not want air blowing in! Also used fresh air system.

I powerwashed the entire garage to get rid of debris, webs etc. The I fogged the inside of the garage to kill all bugs. I borrowed the fresh air system from my neighbor. Paint turned out really well.

I used a HVLP gun, what a heck of a difference from previous jobs using a standard gun. Basically no overspray!!

finished product

woo looks nice came out excellent.

so let me get this right you pulled the air into the garage from the floor filters, exhausting through the fan out the window.

what type of paint did you use was it a flamible variety?

that is my only consern is sir going through the fan if it is flamible paints.

i was also thinking of blowwing air into the garage and exhaust thought the garage doors, this way no vapors are in the fan.

Jeff

Used solvent based polyurethane.

Good point on the fan... With the hvlp gun the amount of stuff in the air was not all that bad.

However,I don't know what to tell you...

Blowing into the garage I think would be a bad idea from the stand point of stray air currents.

Arn't you the one who is going to do candy?

If so any vairation has the potential of showing up.

ok thanks,

it may be a mute point untill i get the msds anyway. Yes i am doing the candy paint.


here is some prep pics from today decided i should sand the rest of the color off the body.

Jeff

i got it figured out now.......


http://www.abatement.com/healthcare/pdf/pas2400hc.pdf


this is the air scrubber i have at work, it can be ducted into a space for positive pressure. On low it is 700cfm.

so i will place this outside my garage window with the 5" duct sealed in the window up high around the roof area of the garage. You can see the window in my photos.

then i will use nova's way of filtering the exhaust out the door of the garage papering up the top of the door.

i will put my platics sheets up with 1x1 wood , covering the ceiling since its popcorn coated. and the 4 walls all hanging off the same 1x1's

this set up should give me a downdraft booth, the filter unit is class1 and 2 flamible compliant so no boom to worry about.

i have my fresh breathing air machine coming to me hobby air 2.that can be placed outside the booth maybe even in my finished basement then i will have a/c fresh air in the hood . i would just have to seal the door with plastic as a second measure to protect my nascar diecast collection. not that i can see it with all the car parts on the floor.

anyone see any problmes with this set up? 700cfm i wonder what a real booth runs at... time for another googe search i guess.

Jeff

A fresh air system for a no pro, gonna paint once in a while can be easily made for about $50. $20-30 for a used full face motorcycle helmet and a bunch of long hose for your shop vac.

Most shop vacs have a suck n blow port. It will push enough air that even with a lose fitting helmet, you will have more than enough fresh air. You may even need to make a neck bib for it so the air coming out does not mess with your spray.


Its the cheap way that will work.

thanks gumby...

maybe someone can use that someday, i bought the real deal just to be safe and i will use it again i'm sure. the ford p/u has the bed rot going on......

Jeff