OK heres the deal sellin n bailin on this project is nto an optin how do you reccemond i go about fixin this???

 

Thats looks exactly like my 91 did when I bought it. That area was filled with pine needles,which in turn acted like a sponge,holding water.
I just cut and patched as best I could,it looked like crap,but structually i'm sure it was fine
A year or so ago,there was a post where a guy(professional) had a sequence of photos on fixing this the right way,Might try a quick search,I cant recall his name
It was on a firebird/driverside,if I recall.But same principles
Good Luck
I have since sold the 91,Its still on the road,looking better than ever
Later'
Steve

 

Daym that was bad. THat's the reason I keep my car out of the salted winther roads, and in the garage.

Personally I would hire a good welder, preferably an old guy, they know their ****. It could be expensive though. Cheapest would of course be to try it yourself.

 

cut it all out the best you can, and make up some patch pannels, weld them inplace, paint the whole area in POR 15 and call it a day. but thats just me, in a place like that i woulden't go for looks, just finctionality.

 

For alot of cars there is made repair panels who could make it easier to weld up. Perhaps you should check into that.

Looks arent that important, I agree, but be sure to cut out ALL the rusted parts, or it will soon be rusting again. Do not bondo it as they did on "pimp my ride" on a guys -58 vw bus, it wont hold up.

Another thing, if you patch it, "overlapping" is not a good way to do it. How I know this? Oh well, it leaves room for moisture to bild up and soforth...

 

It looks like everything behind that hole is rusted, too. I'd take a serious look at how extensive this damage really is (remember, you have to cut out ALL the rust) and consider the possibility of starting with a different body.

 

U should make sure that the inner peace is not real bad to. If it is u are better off with a differnt body. (The inner A piller) not the inner rock cuz u know thats gone.But if that piller is weak u are looking to get into a ton of work.In some places overlaping is the only way to do it. Just use weldig primmer and a good seam sealer.

preferably an old guy that knows there stuff...... I have worked with alot of older bodyguys it does not matter. There are old hacks and young hacks.....

 

Holey rusted metal, Batman!

I say replace the whole door with one from a donor car. (Thats a door right? Its late, so correct me if I'm wrong)

 

Ok guys thanks for the input... Im kinda stuck right now not sure what to do. I kno i can fix it but im not sure if it would be worth my time/effort. How hard do you think it would be if i got another rusty donor car that was solid in that area to cut and replace from one to another? Im kinda far into the project and dont really wanna bail now.

 

Indeed but, that's not the door exactly.. from what I see. The door is pictures but, just the lower front corner.
What I see is a rotted out rocker panel and hinge pillar... both witch would require sectioning to replace/repar. The rust can be tamed and slowed to a crawl but, even with proper rust inhibiting... that would still only be a band-aid fix to the real problem that is blatently obvious.. (included pic... correct if I'm wrong on my guess..)...

 

Looks like there is a very slight crease there..might have been hit in that area at one time.I'd buy the proper patch panel for the door post area,as for the rocker it wouldn't be hard to form a peace of steel to the curve of the rocker and weld it in place.The back side of the rocker is just a flat peace so thats even easier.

 

I would cut out the rust first if you have access to a air compressor and a wiz wheel and go from there. Then you just lay in paper and mark with a pencil then trace it on metal and cut it out and fit it. A sandblaster would be nice also see if it will bring out anymore pinholes if you cant get the wirebrush in there.

 

That rust is a tricky situation. Right now i'm parting out an 88 gta, ill look to see if the section on my car is good, if so, i'll cut out a larger chunk than it looks like you need and i'll send it to you if you'd like. ALL free of charge. let me know.
Also i saw in your one sig. that you have a 67 camaro roller for possible trade, anymore info on that? thanks

 

My Iroc has been lightly hit in the same area yours is damaged. The last owner ran it into a ditch and bowed that spot upward. The tough part with cutting and reworking the area lies in the final alignment of the panels and gfx obviously. Don't be afraid to alter the original look seeing as how you won't even be able to see what is under there when the parts are back on the car.

I had to rebuild the same side gfx mount and it looks alot different underneath now but who cares? Outside everything mounts up with no messed up gaps or "shade tree" look to it.

Good luck. As long as you are a good welder / fabricator you'll be fine.

 

Well we'll see what happens i might be picking up a 87 gta pretty soon here (if i ever get soem pics smokinss) haha but that might be my new project and ill prolyl throw this on the back burner for a lil bit but i dont want to completly get rid of it cause its my first car so i think ill keep it around for awhile and just build it up a lil ata time

 

Thanks for showing that FndmntlsOfPimpn, I'm in the same situation with my first Camaro too. But I won't know how bad mine is until it warms up this spring. I'll be shure to check that area.

I also wanted to ask if anyone knows where to get patch panels. I've seen them for other cars but I can't find them for 3rd gens. I was once told or read that there are ones but they're low quality.

And I have yet another question. Does that rust converter really take care of rust for good or does it creep back from underneath later on? In other words can you paint over previously rusted areas without it showing through in a couple of years?

 

http://www.3rdgen.org/bb/showthread....threadid=27560

We went though the same thing. We ended up parting it and buying a rust free chassis

 

Hey that just happend to me too just this past week. Have you taken off your 1/4 panels yet? Just keep an open mind when you do! Heres a shot of what i found on my car. 1 of many.

 

I repaired mine ok and I believe I have an idea as to how this happens to many cars.On mine it was obvious it was jacked up in the wrong place.This causes the two sheets of steel to seperate and allow debris and water in, which is flying off the front wheel like a shotblaster.I found a pile of mud in mine.Once it's repaired, make sure the gap is sealed with a good seam sealer.Then again I may be wrong???

 

ive got a late 80s rs that might be in better shape there..its hit in frt, im gonna part it out ...when im done if you want the body shell for those panels you need then come get whats left after i strip it. Ill go out and look at it sometime this week to make sure theres something there still.
mike

 

ive got a late 80s rs that might be in better shape there..its hit in frt, im gonna part it out ...when im done if you want the body shell for those panels you need then come get whats left after i strip it. Ill go out and look at it sometime this week to make sure theres something there still.
mike

 

ive got a late 80s rs that might be in better shape there..its hit in frt, im gonna part it out ...when im done if you want the body shell for those panels you need then come get whats left after i strip it. Ill go out and look at it sometime this week to make sure theres something there still.
mike

 

My 90 formula has the same rust spot on both sides use some rust conversion primer to stop the spead of rust you cant cut