aftermarket t-tops c&c to factory??
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aftermarket t-tops c&c to factory??
i found out recently that i had aftermarket t-tops by c&c i hate how ugly they are i would like to switch to factory style i know its possible i jut have to enlarge the t-tops openeing by 2 inches in the front...what would i need to do and has it been done before
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were the tops cut into the car and thats why they are aftermarket. if it was up to me i would go with a targa top
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its by a company by the name of c&c if you do a seach you can find them out...it looks like the factory except for the weather stripping and they are 2 inches smaller in the front
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A roof transplant, just like converting from harttop to T, would be the 'easiest' route to take. The C&C design & bracing is not like OEM so, you would need all that from the donor as well.
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Originally posted by porkyzilla
its by a company by the name of c&c if you do a seach you can find them out...it looks like the factory except for the weather stripping and they are 2 inches smaller in the front
its by a company by the name of c&c if you do a seach you can find them out...it looks like the factory except for the weather stripping and they are 2 inches smaller in the front
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Yes, C&C have their own latches. Unlike the ASC conversion, the C&C conversion does not have any adjustability to seal the T-tops, its dependant entirely on the weather stripping. Though the C&C design does have a rather large water channel to get rid of anything.
C&C headliners also hold together quite well over the ASC from what I've seen.
Still, I'd rather have a ASC setup because parts are a heck of a lot easier to find. And the ASC setup looks alot cleaner. C&C put a bump strip in there to hide the uneven line from when they cut the roof up. If they had only done it right they could have had a VERY clean setup that would have been as good as the ASC design.
C&C headliners also hold together quite well over the ASC from what I've seen.
Still, I'd rather have a ASC setup because parts are a heck of a lot easier to find. And the ASC setup looks alot cleaner. C&C put a bump strip in there to hide the uneven line from when they cut the roof up. If they had only done it right they could have had a VERY clean setup that would have been as good as the ASC design.
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Not true.My C&Cs have adjustment at the center & for the pins that go into the body,although its in small increments.They caN be adjusted to compensate for "flattened" weather strip.Ive also had that BUMP strip off & was surprised to see they rolled the roof onto the water channel/bracing that was used under the headliner.Which covers the entire roof area(whats left of it).The lathes Im refering to though are the ones that LIFT the glass so you can vent the interior.The latches release the glass & lift it.The only thing i wish they used was the door key to lock/unlock the T-tops on.The way G.Ms do ,right.
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Not true.My C&Cs have adjustment at the center & for the pins that go into the body,although its in small increments.They caN be adjusted to compensate for "flattened" weather strip.Ive also had that BUMP strip off & was surprised to see they rolled the roof onto the water channel/bracing that was used under the headliner.Which covers the entire roof area(whats left of it).The lathes Im refering to though are the ones that LIFT the glass so you can vent the interior.The latches release the glass & lift it.The only thing i wish they used was the door key to lock/unlock the T-tops on.The way G.Ms do ,right.
My tops to not have a "vent" setting. If you pull the latch the top releases completely and you'd better not do that at 70mph or you'll be searching for new tops really quick.
I still don't see any adjustments on my tops. They are latched, or unlatched.
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well its too bad my c&c is the lower model i dont have the rear hatch open...and searching throuhg the car records i found that it was dealer orderd and done locally. the shop is out of business though now...
and as far as the headliner goes thats because they just cut the stock headliner to fit....thats why and this is why im hating my t-tops although they dont leak they are ugly, and i fear breaking one and being stuck with out a t-top..... and weatherstripping n crap
and as far as the headliner goes thats because they just cut the stock headliner to fit....thats why and this is why im hating my t-tops although they dont leak they are ugly, and i fear breaking one and being stuck with out a t-top..... and weatherstripping n crap
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Porky, I don't think C&C did more than one type of conversion. I think 84z is looking at a different style. I've never heard of C&C T-tops that have a "vent" position, nor any adjustments.
I've thought of ways to add a setup similar to the ASC adjustments, but have yet to put any hard thought into it. Right now its at the "that would be cool" stage. I am making new trim peices out of sheet metal now with relocated pin holes so they seal tighter, but thats not adjustable, and I have no idea how long it will work, or how well. Its something I'll have to look at as i go along.
I've thought of ways to add a setup similar to the ASC adjustments, but have yet to put any hard thought into it. Right now its at the "that would be cool" stage. I am making new trim peices out of sheet metal now with relocated pin holes so they seal tighter, but thats not adjustable, and I have no idea how long it will work, or how well. Its something I'll have to look at as i go along.
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Originally posted by Thirdgen89GTA
Porky, I don't think C&C did more than one type of conversion. I think 84z is looking at a different style. I've never heard of C&C T-tops that have a "vent" position, nor any adjustments.
I've thought of ways to add a setup similar to the ASC adjustments, but have yet to put any hard thought into it. Right now its at the "that would be cool" stage. I am making new trim peices out of sheet metal now with relocated pin holes so they seal tighter, but thats not adjustable, and I have no idea how long it will work, or how well. Its something I'll have to look at as i go along.
Porky, I don't think C&C did more than one type of conversion. I think 84z is looking at a different style. I've never heard of C&C T-tops that have a "vent" position, nor any adjustments.
I've thought of ways to add a setup similar to the ASC adjustments, but have yet to put any hard thought into it. Right now its at the "that would be cool" stage. I am making new trim peices out of sheet metal now with relocated pin holes so they seal tighter, but thats not adjustable, and I have no idea how long it will work, or how well. Its something I'll have to look at as i go along.
they did make a sunroof style where they vent ....it just cost more money...
ill try to find pics
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Originally posted by Thirdgen89GTA
Porky, I don't think C&C did more than one type of conversion. I think 84z is looking at a different style. I've never heard of C&C T-tops that have a "vent" position
Porky, I don't think C&C did more than one type of conversion. I think 84z is looking at a different style. I've never heard of C&C T-tops that have a "vent" position
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I'll be damned, never even seen or read about those before. Must be a funky design.
Still hate the stupid strip that hides the unclean cut. At least they could have cut it and rolled the edge to make a cleaner install.
Still hate the stupid strip that hides the unclean cut. At least they could have cut it and rolled the edge to make a cleaner install.
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Any links to the targa conversion?
Thou I'm gonna go back to the yard this weekend and pick up the C&C tops i found on a car there, this way I'll have a spare set. woohoo.
Thou I'm gonna go back to the yard this weekend and pick up the C&C tops i found on a car there, this way I'll have a spare set. woohoo.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Thirdgen89GTA
[B]It sounds like you are saying the adjustment is located within the T-top itself rather than the A and B pillars. Am I reading your post right?
You are correct.They adjust on the T-top,not the body.The pin/rod that goes into the body can be mooved up/down & in/outward.Though it not much.About 1/8 either way.The latch im refering to is on the t-top for the GLASS.Not the latch to remove the whole t-top from the car.The adjustment has to be done with the plastic molding removed from the t-top.dont have nay pics though of that,but....
[B]It sounds like you are saying the adjustment is located within the T-top itself rather than the A and B pillars. Am I reading your post right?
You are correct.They adjust on the T-top,not the body.The pin/rod that goes into the body can be mooved up/down & in/outward.Though it not much.About 1/8 either way.The latch im refering to is on the t-top for the GLASS.Not the latch to remove the whole t-top from the car.The adjustment has to be done with the plastic molding removed from the t-top.dont have nay pics though of that,but....
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Thirdgen89GTA
[B]Porky, I don't think C&C did more than one type of conversion. I think 84z is looking at a different style. I've never heard of C&C T-tops that have a "vent" position, nor any adjustments.
This is the latch im refering to(closed).The C&C logo is clearly visible.There is also a C&C logo on the glass.
[B]Porky, I don't think C&C did more than one type of conversion. I think 84z is looking at a different style. I've never heard of C&C T-tops that have a "vent" position, nor any adjustments.
This is the latch im refering to(closed).The C&C logo is clearly visible.There is also a C&C logo on the glass.
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Originally posted by Thirdgen89GTA
I'll be damned, never even seen or read about those before. Must be a funky design.
Still hate the stupid strip that hides the unclean cut. At least they could have cut it and rolled the edge to make a cleaner install.
I'll be damned, never even seen or read about those before. Must be a funky design.
Still hate the stupid strip that hides the unclean cut. At least they could have cut it and rolled the edge to make a cleaner install.
Last edited by 84 1LE; Mar 19, 2006 at 07:00 PM.
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