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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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realistic flame paint

anyone try their hand at real flame painting? i ordered killerpaints dvd to give it a shot. if i can get the hand for it i will be doing blue real flames on the candy blue project resurection. i just have to fond the color list for the blue flames that i have seen done a few times looks hot.

post pics if you've tried... ill show what i do when the supplies get here latter this week.

my thoughts are this color car with the next pics flame style. what ya think?

heres the flame style and color
http://jimmunroe.com/Custom_Motorcycle_Paint.html

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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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awesome! I'd say give it a shot....Ive gotten somewhat bored with my candy just being one color already, and wondered about doing something ghost/candy to it, keep us updated
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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Your car looks good just as it is..Are U good at air brushing? If not do some on some scrap metal. Before u try it on your car. But I don't really care for flames. I say your car looks good like it is.. But just my 2 cents
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 12:37 AM
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i love them.... on a black car.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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WOW....that blue is amazing! I'd love to see that paintjob in person....
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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i love how it looks , i saw the guy who started doing fire paintjobs on tv, i think it was rides. And it looked awesome .Id like to see it on red or another color besides black . I have thought about having fire put on the hood scoops ,ive seen it on a 4th gen over on ls2.com or ls1tech. and it looked ok .
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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Hey, where did you guys find those pics? I'd like to see more!
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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that's david culpepper's car right?
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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just isn't the same on any other color. real flames need the black to accent it.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by Kandied91z
just isn't the same on any other color. real flames need the black to accent it.
100% Correct
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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heres the pics i was talking about .


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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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i agree about bein on black. id love to see how they turn out.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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i;ll post up some pics as i get in the process. i have a practice hood and fenders and plenty of left over candy paint so its no loss to try em. i ordered mike lavells killer paint dvd and his stencils. il let you know how the dvd is. i have not airbrushed yet on a real car did some details on models long time ago... but i never painted a car before last year either and it came out great. i always look for new challenges. I am in no way comited to doing blue flames on the candy yet but the test panels will make up my mind on that. i have seen some that were small and not as big as some like the ones they did on rides that would look good. it has less wisps of the flame and not as tight. so it is kinda a mix of old style flame spacing with the true flame flair. looks like fun so i'll let you see how they come out good or bad.

www.killerpaint.com

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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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I'd say go for it...with the caveat that you will need to ...PRACTICE>>>PRACTICE>>>PRACTICE!
My artistic skills are pretty rusty, but I can clearly see that truflame effect in all blues.(subtle highlights and shading being the key) It'd look kickass!!!
Of course you wouldn't want to be known as the "Blueflamer"!!!



Edit: I have seen the "trick" they use in this effect...and once you get the hang of it, it looks to be repetitive motion and various stencils, large and small

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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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thanks kevin, im picturing white base and all diffrent blue candies after that, i got the kk's coming to play can;t wait.

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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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Those are nice flames. An alternative to flames would be a fire job. I will be taking that approach to my car. It will be white with blue fire. It's definitely not something that is very common. The best fire job I've seen was on Overhaulin' : Black truck with a red/orange/white fire job.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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Those are nice flames. An alternative to flames would be a fire job. I will be taking that approach to my car. It will be white with blue fire. It's definitely not something that is very common. The best fire job I've seen was on Overhaulin' : Black truck with a red/orange/white fire job.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Not a big fan of the 'real flames' though, it's some killer talent to do them.

I personally think a 'real flame' scheme would look killer in the same colors (with different light/dark shades) as the original color. Don't know if that made sense or not...
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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That blue candy looks mint... I would not mess with it.


If you wanted something different the best way would be to put it UNDER the candy anyhow.... you can do some wicked stuff with tape pulls... regular flames under the candy would look hot....


the best flames I have seen were on Ian Zerring's first gen on overhaulin.... they were done in place of the racing stripes and they went over the flames with candy.... going over it with candy made all the difference in the world. I've seen some really nice subtle ones at Autorama as well... black car with candy flames is pretty much unbeatable. I'm going to give it a shot on my GTP I think.

Checkered flag tape pulls with airbrushed shading on the hood would look hot.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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if you could pull of the white hot flames you get from say a laser lighter using greens, blues and white as accents it might just work. trying to do a true flame like above though i think would be a mistake.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 07:40 AM
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That blue candy looks mint... I would not mess with it.




leave it how it is!
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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here is a couple shots of some playing tonight..what you think first attempt on a patch panel.

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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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heres another view
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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still have to try the blue flame but the true flames are fun to do its cool how it comes together just when you think it sucks.

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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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you deffinantly have skill, I just want to see what it will look like with the blue.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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That's KILLER JEFF!!!!!!!
Maybe a little softer in some areas but you definitely have a knack. especially for your first outing...
Keep practicing. Those blue ones will be phenomenal.
An WTF?? If you FUBAR 'em you can start all over and repaint the car next year!!!!!!!
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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wow, my man! NICE! Start a shop! I'd pay for a killer paint job like that!
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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Damn.....that's look's great!
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 07:13 AM
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That looks great!
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by KEVIN G.
That's KILLER JEFF!!!!!!!
Maybe a little softer in some areas but you definitely have a knack. especially for your first outing...
Keep practicing. Those blue ones will be phenomenal.
An WTF?? If you FUBAR 'em you can start all over and repaint the car next year!!!!!!!
thanks , there is some hard lines from the freehand shield that i don';t like but the colors are cool ...... ill defitantly be practicing some more to get more realistic. Thanks for all the positive words..i'll post my next one for suggestions when its done.

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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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I don't think those hard lines look bad at all...it gives some definition and depth.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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I don't think those hard lines look bad at all...it gives some definition and depth.
thanks there just to many and the same, it should have some hard line or else it does not work but if you look at the pic of the lower section you can see the free hand shield was used on the same shape over and over...needs more random shapes to get realistic.

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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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wow, my man! NICE! Start a shop! I'd pay for a killer paint job like that!
i do need to upgrade from a tent in the yard never know Dark your not that far from me maybe we can work something out..let me practice some more though....
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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Ah...I see it now...still doesn't look bad though Good job!
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by JeffW
lower section you can see the free hand shield was used on the same shape over and over...needs more random shapes to get realistic.
Yeah, that would be my only complaint too, but daaaaaaayum that came out nice for a first attempt. I'm off searching for the Killerpaints DVD now...

Is this it, or at least similar? Real Flame DVD

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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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yep thats it Mike Lavelle is Killer Paint owner.... price is ok don;t get much paint. i got all my paint in quarts from hokpaint.com maybe 200.00 so its not bad either way.

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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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Beautiful JeffW tell me more! What guns are you using did you make the shield or buy one.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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iwata revolution air brush, free hand shield various curves about 4 diffrent.(french curves) (7 encentials) purchased.. nothing special for flames just random curves... i also have a mini hvlp for candies.......
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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If you want a little softer edge, you can hold it (the template) farther away from the panel. A harder edge, hold it tighter to the panel
Or you can mist your edge lightly with the template, and then freehand lightly over it to fog, or ghost, it into submission.

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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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now I wish I wouldn't have clicked on this post...looks like I need some flames

Great work by the way Jeff
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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wow, awesome job
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 12:52 AM
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a little to busy on the eyes for me but a great step in the right direction. looks good.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 01:35 AM
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i do need to upgrade from a tent in the yard never know Dark your not that far from me maybe we can work something out..let me practice some more though....
Hey man, you keep me updated and we can certainly talk! I've traveled to Mass before, wouldn't mind making the trip again for some killer flames!

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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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here some more practice shots from today, i did this hood 4 times to get what i wanted from it.once i missed a step and it looked like crap so i shot the black on it and started today from scratch.... what ya think?
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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hey man that looks really badass.....you should seriously think about opening a shop like before mentioned.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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one before clear coat

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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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one in the sun,,, someone stop me......i have to paint flames on everything now..

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ill do the camaro fender tomorrow in the blue and see what comes out.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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looks awesome , i think i need to send an rc car cover from my 1/8 scale gas car to you .

But i cant wait to see more .
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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looks awesome , i think i need to send an rc car cover from my 1/8 scale gas car to you .

But i cant wait to see more .
don;t those usually get painted from the inside? that way the paint is protected? it would be almost impossible to do this on the inside since you do paint from the behind flames to the hottest front parts. its basically paint the back first and layering.

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