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realistic flame paint
anyone try their hand at real flame painting? i ordered killerpaints dvd to give it a shot. if i can get the hand for it i will be doing blue real flames on the candy blue project resurection. i just have to fond the color list for the blue flames that i have seen done a few times looks hot.
post pics if you've tried... ill show what i do when the supplies get here latter this week.
my thoughts are this color car with the next pics flame style. what ya think?
heres the flame style and color
http://jimmunroe.com/Custom_Motorcycle_Paint.html
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post pics if you've tried... ill show what i do when the supplies get here latter this week.
my thoughts are this color car with the next pics flame style. what ya think?
heres the flame style and color
http://jimmunroe.com/Custom_Motorcycle_Paint.html
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awesome! I'd say give it a shot....Ive gotten somewhat bored with my candy just being one color already, and wondered about doing something ghost/candy to it, keep us updated
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Your car looks good just as it is..Are U good at air brushing? If not do some on some scrap metal. Before u try it on your car. But I don't really care for flames. I say your car looks good like it is.. But just my 2 cents
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i love how it looks , i saw the guy who started doing fire paintjobs on tv, i think it was rides. And it looked awesome .Id like to see it on red or another color besides black . I have thought about having fire put on the hood scoops ,ive seen it on a 4th gen over on ls2.com or ls1tech. and it looked ok .
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i;ll post up some pics as i get in the process. i have a practice hood and fenders and plenty of left over candy paint so its no loss to try em. i ordered mike lavells killer paint dvd and his stencils. il let you know how the dvd is. i have not airbrushed yet on a real car did some details on models long time ago... but i never painted a car before last year either and it came out great. i always look for new challenges. I am in no way comited to doing blue flames on the candy yet but the test panels will make up my mind on that. i have seen some that were small and not as big as some like the ones they did on rides that would look good. it has less wisps of the flame and not as tight. so it is kinda a mix of old style flame spacing with the true flame flair. looks like fun so i'll let you see how they come out good or bad.
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I'd say go for it...with the caveat that you will need to ...PRACTICE>>>PRACTICE>>>PRACTICE!
My artistic skills are pretty rusty, but I can clearly see that truflame effect in all blues.(subtle highlights and shading being the key) It'd look kickass!!!
Of course you wouldn't want to be known as the "Blueflamer"!!!

Edit: I have seen the "trick" they use in this effect...and once you get the hang of it, it looks to be repetitive motion and various stencils, large and small
My artistic skills are pretty rusty, but I can clearly see that truflame effect in all blues.(subtle highlights and shading being the key) It'd look kickass!!!
Of course you wouldn't want to be known as the "Blueflamer"!!!

Edit: I have seen the "trick" they use in this effect...and once you get the hang of it, it looks to be repetitive motion and various stencils, large and small
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thanks kevin, im picturing white base and all diffrent blue candies after that, i got the kk's coming to play can;t wait.
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Those are nice flames. An alternative to flames would be a fire job. I will be taking that approach to my car. It will be white with blue fire. It's definitely not something that is very common. The best fire job I've seen was on Overhaulin' : Black truck with a red/orange/white fire job.
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Those are nice flames. An alternative to flames would be a fire job. I will be taking that approach to my car. It will be white with blue fire. It's definitely not something that is very common. The best fire job I've seen was on Overhaulin' : Black truck with a red/orange/white fire job.
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Not a big fan of the 'real flames' though, it's some killer talent to do them.
I personally think a 'real flame' scheme would look killer in the same colors (with different light/dark shades) as the original color. Don't know if that made sense or not...
I personally think a 'real flame' scheme would look killer in the same colors (with different light/dark shades) as the original color. Don't know if that made sense or not...
That blue candy looks mint... I would not mess with it.
If you wanted something different the best way would be to put it UNDER the candy anyhow.... you can do some wicked stuff with tape pulls... regular flames under the candy would look hot....
the best flames I have seen were on Ian Zerring's first gen on overhaulin.... they were done in place of the racing stripes and they went over the flames with candy.... going over it with candy made all the difference in the world. I've seen some really nice subtle ones at Autorama as well... black car with candy flames is pretty much unbeatable. I'm going to give it a shot on my GTP I think.
Checkered flag tape pulls with airbrushed shading on the hood would look hot.
If you wanted something different the best way would be to put it UNDER the candy anyhow.... you can do some wicked stuff with tape pulls... regular flames under the candy would look hot....
the best flames I have seen were on Ian Zerring's first gen on overhaulin.... they were done in place of the racing stripes and they went over the flames with candy.... going over it with candy made all the difference in the world. I've seen some really nice subtle ones at Autorama as well... black car with candy flames is pretty much unbeatable. I'm going to give it a shot on my GTP I think.
Checkered flag tape pulls with airbrushed shading on the hood would look hot.
if you could pull of the white hot flames you get from say a laser lighter using greens, blues and white as accents it might just work. trying to do a true flame like above though i think would be a mistake.
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here is a couple shots of some playing tonight..what you think first attempt on a patch panel.
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still have to try the blue flame but the true flames are fun to do its cool how it comes together just when you think it sucks.
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That's KILLER JEFF!!!!!!!
Maybe a little softer in some areas but you definitely have a knack. especially for your first outing...
Keep practicing. Those blue ones will be phenomenal.
An WTF?? If you FUBAR 'em you can start all over and repaint the car next year!!!!!!!
Maybe a little softer in some areas but you definitely have a knack. especially for your first outing...
Keep practicing. Those blue ones will be phenomenal.
An WTF?? If you FUBAR 'em you can start all over and repaint the car next year!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by KEVIN G.
That's KILLER JEFF!!!!!!!
Maybe a little softer in some areas but you definitely have a knack. especially for your first outing...
Keep practicing. Those blue ones will be phenomenal.
An WTF?? If you FUBAR 'em you can start all over and repaint the car next year!!!!!!!
That's KILLER JEFF!!!!!!!
Maybe a little softer in some areas but you definitely have a knack. especially for your first outing...
Keep practicing. Those blue ones will be phenomenal.
An WTF?? If you FUBAR 'em you can start all over and repaint the car next year!!!!!!!
jeff
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Originally posted by 406TPI
I don't think those hard lines look bad at all...it gives some definition and depth.
I don't think those hard lines look bad at all...it gives some definition and depth.
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wow, my man! NICE! Start a shop! I'd pay for a killer paint job like that!
wow, my man! NICE! Start a shop! I'd pay for a killer paint job like that!
never know Dark your not that far from me maybe we can work something out..let me practice some more though.... Supreme Member
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Originally posted by JeffW
lower section you can see the free hand shield was used on the same shape over and over...needs more random shapes to get realistic.
lower section you can see the free hand shield was used on the same shape over and over...needs more random shapes to get realistic.

Is this it, or at least similar? Real Flame DVD
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yep thats it Mike Lavelle is Killer Paint owner.... price is ok don;t get much paint. i got all my paint in quarts from hokpaint.com maybe 200.00 so its not bad either way.
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iwata revolution air brush, free hand shield various curves about 4 diffrent.(french curves) (7 encentials) purchased.. nothing special for flames just random curves... i also have a mini hvlp for candies.......
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If you want a little softer edge, you can hold it (the template) farther away from the panel. A harder edge, hold it tighter to the panel
Or you can mist your edge lightly with the template, and then freehand lightly over it to fog, or ghost, it into submission.
Or you can mist your edge lightly with the template, and then freehand lightly over it to fog, or ghost, it into submission.
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now I wish I wouldn't have clicked on this post...looks like I need some flames
Great work by the way Jeff
Great work by the way Jeff
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i do need to upgrade from a tent in the yard
never know Dark your not that far from me maybe we can work something out..let me practice some more though....
i do need to upgrade from a tent in the yard
never know Dark your not that far from me maybe we can work something out..let me practice some more though.... Keep in touch!!
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here some more practice shots from today, i did this hood 4 times to get what i wanted from it.once i missed a step and it looked like crap so i shot the black on it and started today from scratch.... what ya think?
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one in the sun,,, someone stop me......i have to paint flames on everything now..
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ill do the camaro fender tomorrow in the blue and see what comes out.
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ill do the camaro fender tomorrow in the blue and see what comes out.
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looks awesome , i think i need to send an rc car cover from my 1/8 scale gas car to you .
But i cant wait to see more .
But i cant wait to see more .
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Originally posted by 18inchboyds
looks awesome , i think i need to send an rc car cover from my 1/8 scale gas car to you .
But i cant wait to see more .
looks awesome , i think i need to send an rc car cover from my 1/8 scale gas car to you .
But i cant wait to see more .
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