Headliner quandry . . .
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Headliner quandry . . .
I need a new headliner and I see there are two types - ABS and fiberglass. Based on my search, I can find no comments regarding fiberglass fitment but numerous ones concerning ABS. I know fiberglass is a lot more expensive, but time is money, too. Anyone buy a headliner from markscustomkits.com? It looks like a quality piece, but it'll be about $70 more, uncovered.
Thanks in advance.
p.s. I am VERY picky!
pps. Re-doing my own is not an option.
Thanks in advance.
p.s. I am VERY picky!
pps. Re-doing my own is not an option.
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I dont know about fiberglass, but my abs one does not fit good. I had to dremel the pass side visor mount hole and there is gaps all around the t-top openings. If you picky, pay more and get a good fit.
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My ABS one [pre-covered] fitted pretty good around everywhere except at the front screen, theres a slight sag on 1 side.
However i can live with that, it was like a tee-pee before.
And they are not what i would call cheap for what they are, on the plus side, it does lift the whole interior.
However i can live with that, it was like a tee-pee before.
And they are not what i would call cheap for what they are, on the plus side, it does lift the whole interior.
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I've seen A-1 on E-Bay in the camaro parts section, believe I seen some of their wares for headliners. They seem to carry alot of third gen parts. Check it out on E-Bay.
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I got a plastic one from ClassicIndustries. It fit perfect. I didn't tell them that I had the overhead console, so I had to custom fit that part and then cut that out. also had to cut strips in it to fit the seatbelts. $225 shipped though. But they gave an assload of extra fabric so I covered my sail panels and console with it.
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i ordered an ABS one from hawks last month
it fit very poorly. it was snug in the back on the passenger side, but has a gap on the driver side, any attempt to remedy pulls it away from proper alignment of the t-top bar, which looks twice as bad, so i have to live with it.
niether of the holes for the visors were very close to where they should have been, both bordering CLOSELY on the hole peeking out from under the baseplate, and i had to cut some plastic away on the opposite side.
the cutout for the dome light was off by quite a bit also, it was scooted too far forward by about an inch, and leaving extra fabric in the hole did nothing, it was still obviously without backing at first glance... all i could do was flip my dome light around so it would face backwards, and the longer backside would cover it. that don't bug me too bad though.
finally, it doesn't sit very snug against the t-top bar. even worse than the stock 13 year old liner that was in my car. after getting it all in i noticed this, and ended up ripping it out because it was too much to be acceptable. i epoxied some tabs to the backside, dabbed some on the other end, and stuck it to the roof for about 3 minutes before i let go, it looks ok now.
overall it was very tedious, and took two hours to get in (takes me 20 minutes to pull and reinstall an GM piece) and get looking the best it possibly could, which still isn't near 100%... And it cost me about 125 bucks. :/
still looks alot better than the crap that was hanging from my roof though. i almost wished i had recoved my old board with material after that experience... probably would've taken the same amount of time, would've looked better, and cost alot less.
the front end bra i ordered to cover up some scuffs looks like crap too, and isn't even remotely close to what i expected from all available photo's.
i would stay away from fiberglass, fitment issues would SUCK if any cropped up. it was bad enough with the malleable ABS.
it fit very poorly. it was snug in the back on the passenger side, but has a gap on the driver side, any attempt to remedy pulls it away from proper alignment of the t-top bar, which looks twice as bad, so i have to live with it.
niether of the holes for the visors were very close to where they should have been, both bordering CLOSELY on the hole peeking out from under the baseplate, and i had to cut some plastic away on the opposite side.
the cutout for the dome light was off by quite a bit also, it was scooted too far forward by about an inch, and leaving extra fabric in the hole did nothing, it was still obviously without backing at first glance... all i could do was flip my dome light around so it would face backwards, and the longer backside would cover it. that don't bug me too bad though.
finally, it doesn't sit very snug against the t-top bar. even worse than the stock 13 year old liner that was in my car. after getting it all in i noticed this, and ended up ripping it out because it was too much to be acceptable. i epoxied some tabs to the backside, dabbed some on the other end, and stuck it to the roof for about 3 minutes before i let go, it looks ok now.
overall it was very tedious, and took two hours to get in (takes me 20 minutes to pull and reinstall an GM piece) and get looking the best it possibly could, which still isn't near 100%... And it cost me about 125 bucks. :/
still looks alot better than the crap that was hanging from my roof though. i almost wished i had recoved my old board with material after that experience... probably would've taken the same amount of time, would've looked better, and cost alot less.
the front end bra i ordered to cover up some scuffs looks like crap too, and isn't even remotely close to what i expected from all available photo's.
i would stay away from fiberglass, fitment issues would SUCK if any cropped up. it was bad enough with the malleable ABS.
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Originally posted by Dizturbed One
i would stay away from fiberglass, fitment issues would SUCK if any cropped up. it was bad enough with the malleable ABS.
i would stay away from fiberglass, fitment issues would SUCK if any cropped up. it was bad enough with the malleable ABS.
I recovered my old stock one and it worked out great.There is an excellent tech article on how to do this and repair any cracks in the old cardboard piece.Takes alittle work but turned out really well and costs hardly anything.
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Originally posted by tagta189
I recovered my old stock one and it worked out great.There is an excellent tech article on how to do this and repair any cracks in the old cardboard piece.Takes alittle work but turned out really well and costs hardly anything.
I recovered my old stock one and it worked out great.There is an excellent tech article on how to do this and repair any cracks in the old cardboard piece.Takes alittle work but turned out really well and costs hardly anything.
it's in the technical articles section.Not the message boards.It under general repair and it's one labled,t-top headliner repair.It's the one farther down,not the one that tells you not to do it.The only real trick is to make sure you get all the old foam off.Elsewise your new one will never stick.I used a kitchen plastic brillo pad.The old stuff kind of crumbles and turns to dust,so it's not too tough.Good luck.Do what the article tells you to fix the cracks in the old headliner board and it will be better than new.
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I have a friend that sells the ABS ones...
I bought 1 for my t-top car, fits perfect and will never decay like the factory fiber board crap
they are $125.00 plus shipping ($40.00)
but the trick is find a couple of buddies that need one too... They can fit 3 in a box therefore cutting shipping cost per person down to about $14.00
I ordered a total of 8 headliners for me and friends of mine
He can get the whole kits for $185.00 (headliner, sailpanels, and visors)
I bought 1 for my t-top car, fits perfect and will never decay like the factory fiber board crap
they are $125.00 plus shipping ($40.00)
but the trick is find a couple of buddies that need one too... They can fit 3 in a box therefore cutting shipping cost per person down to about $14.00
I ordered a total of 8 headliners for me and friends of mine
He can get the whole kits for $185.00 (headliner, sailpanels, and visors)
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Originally posted by tagta189
it's in the technical articles section.Not the message boards.It under general repair and it's one labled,t-top headliner repair.It's the one farther down,not the one that tells you not to do it.The only real trick is to make sure you get all the old foam off.Elsewise your new one will never stick.I used a kitchen plastic brillo pad.The old stuff kind of crumbles and turns to dust,so it's not too tough.Good luck.Do what the article tells you to fix the cracks in the old headliner board and it will be better than new.
it's in the technical articles section.Not the message boards.It under general repair and it's one labled,t-top headliner repair.It's the one farther down,not the one that tells you not to do it.The only real trick is to make sure you get all the old foam off.Elsewise your new one will never stick.I used a kitchen plastic brillo pad.The old stuff kind of crumbles and turns to dust,so it's not too tough.Good luck.Do what the article tells you to fix the cracks in the old headliner board and it will be better than new.
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**** t-top
after all this about how much t-top headliner replacements are why doesn't anyone just go with a **** rug replacement, i put in 2 inch black **** carpet for my 83 z-28, you can't tell if there are any imperfections, it looks sweet when the wind blows and it only cost me $50. the ladies love it
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Re: **** t-top
Originally posted by Swim500in5
after all this about how much t-top headliner replacements are why doesn't anyone just go with a **** rug replacement, i put in 2 inch black **** carpet for my 83 z-28, you can't tell if there are any imperfections, it looks sweet when the wind blows and it only cost me $50. the ladies love it
after all this about how much t-top headliner replacements are why doesn't anyone just go with a **** rug replacement, i put in 2 inch black **** carpet for my 83 z-28, you can't tell if there are any imperfections, it looks sweet when the wind blows and it only cost me $50. the ladies love it
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