I got most of the dash in. I just need to do the top cover piece and apillars. So let me know what you think! Darin
more pics finished on page 2

 

looks good, I'm a flat dash lover, but that looks clean

 

I'm VERY impressed. looks great!
I'll bet it was a boatload of hard work though!

 

I love the fourthgen style over the stock thirdgen style.
Your car looks really good! Nice job!

George

 

this can be done in a weekend if you have everything. what takes the most time it the wiring.

 

I like! lol. Looks a whole lot better in person. Adam :-)

 

that's f*ckin sick. i love it.

 

The dash almost looks like it came from the factory like that. nice job with it

 

im more the flat dash lover to, but i think that looks good

 

You should be proud of yourself. Thats a very nice job!

 

I'm not a fan of the 4th gen dash but I bet that took some time and effort. Good job!

 

Very nice. Looks great

 

WOW nice man .. thats a real eye catcher too!

 

Looks great dude! Now you need to do something with the door panels so they match

I hope to do this with my camaro someday.

 

the 4th gen camaro 97-up dash cluster is sweet

 

did you get all of the gauges to work? thats the same cluster i have and i can't seem to find someone you can tell me how to wire up the digital odometer to get it to work right.

 

Great work! Must of taken alot of time and dedication to finish this work. I personally love the 3rd gen style it reminds me of the 80s and early 90s.. and when I play my L.A. Guns, Guns N Roses, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Slayer, Dio, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, and other 80s and early 90s rock.. It makes me feel that much better and far more fun to drive!!

 

all gauges work and odometer works. what year was the cluster you are using.

 

I think all the curves on the 4th Gen. dash clashes with the straight body lines of the 3rd. Gen car, but it looks ok. But GM started doing that also on the 90-92 Camaros by rounding the corners of the dash panels.

 

very sharp, congrats on the hard work!

 

the dash and cluster are from an 01 formula

 

a 97 cluster will work with a L98. the LS1 cluster uses a brain to power it. you need to find one for a 97. i know a company that has one. i can give you their number if you like.

 

awesome looking..i wish those came stock in our cars

 

That looks killer. I like the matching floor console. It was definately done right

 

i have a question. on your old dash that you took out, the metal frame that is rivet'd to the plastic dash, did you attach that to the new dash? or you didnt need it? it bolts to the steering column and runs along the dash and is reveted to it. here is a pic of what i mean, the rusty looking piece is the frame, im just wondering if i need it off to put on the new 4th gen dash or if it will fit. yellow is for the steering column bolts, the red circles are the rivets.

 

Asfar as I can remember no you don't need to take that part off the old dash. We stuck his old dash in my car and I don't remember doing anything like that. Adam :-)

 

was there one on the new dash? did the new dash line up underneath to bolt to the steering column? or just the bolt on each end of the bolts by the door, and the top?

what about the little frame piece directly in the middle going up and down, it bolted to this piece, and at the top where the top dash bolts, do you know what i mean?

 

You will have to wait for him to chime in on stuff for the new dash. I wasn't there when he did it. Adam :-)

 

yes there was one on the new dash. You must use the new dash frame not the third gen frame.

 

That looks really nice! Does the HVAC work?

 

yes everything works as it should

 

Ok, details on that HVAC and how you did it please.

Also, what did you do about front speakers? I dont see any provisions for them in my Bird dash ..

 

details on the wiring or the vacumn hoses. i used the bose speakers, i mounted them in the kick panels.

 

just to be curious.. whatd you use for the hot/cold cable ?

im currently using a fox mustang cable and control thats jb welded to the back of my hvac panel... didnt know if you came up wiht something easier and better...

 

Um ... both. I THINK I have the vacuum down from this site and service manuals, but I want to be sure.

And yea, what about that hot/cold cable. Any pics of your setup back there?

 

I knew my question would raise curiosity!

 

Well from everything I've read the HVAC sounds to be the most difficult part to get to work right. I'm a little apprehensive about getting into that part of the swap. The instrument cluster wiring was easy. Time consuming, but easy. And on that ... I have 2 wires left on my 4th gen plug I dont know where they go.

One is A13 - Orange - "Power feed from courtesy fues 8" and the other is A14 - Red - "Generator output indicator control". (info from ALLDATA) I dont have anything in the 91 service manual that matches these descriptions. Any help?

 

Those window switches are TRICK!!!!!!!!! I have a 4th gen too and I don't smoke. GOODBYE ASHTRAY....HELLO NITROUS AND LINE LOCK SWITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!
POZ

 

A13 should hook to a battery hot source from the fuse box. A14 is the exciter wire on the voltage regulator, may be brown in your harness.

 

What do you mean by the exciter wire? I have a 91 Z, so its probably the same harness as your car. Where did it go in yours?

 

Oh wow, the effert, the quality, the attention to details, all the new four letter words you must have learned!

Looks awesome.

 

The exciter wire is the ignition hot wire that excites the alternator. The other end is in the alternator plug. I believe it is brown on our cluster harness. The LT1 uses a red wire. It should be the only ignition hot brown.. This link has a wiring chart that may help. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/body...cluster+pinout

 

This is the best I can find. I haven't had my cluster out in three years. I remember a post somewhere that covered this somewhere.

 

Ok, I think I have those two wires where they need to be. Ran the orange to a pink/blk on the 91 harness, and the red to a ground on the 91 harness.


Now some more.

1. Still no SES light when key is turned on.
2. "Check Gauges", "Low Oil", and "ABS Inop" lights stay on constantly now. Any ideas on those things? I'm thinking if I just run those wires to ground, they'll go off. Sound good?

 

i was gonna say sounds you dont have something grounded out

whatd you use for your hvac hot/cold cable ?

 

Well, the 91 cluster doesnt even have these bulbs, or sensors that a 94 does (like the low oil level sensor).

Havent gotten to the HVAC yet

 

take the bulbs out then...

 

im using the 4th gen hot/cold cable. had to make a bracket to the heater box. drilled a hole through the center of the cold/hot door, put a screw in the along with a spacer. i will take some pics here in a day or two.

 

That's dedication.
Very
-Andrew

 

I got my hot/cold cable to work. I went junkyard scouting one day looking at the back of the HVAC controls on many different cars.

The best thing was from an early 90's Astro Van. The rotation of the mechanism is exactly the same as the 4th gen controls indicate. The throw of the cable is also the same. It doesn't mount hassle free on the 4th gen controls though. I had to dremel the mounts off and JB weld the new hot/cold selector to the controls. Works really well now.

With this setup I was able to leave my third gen cable untouched.