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Old May 21, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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ABS headliner

I am buying the aftermarket ABS plastic headliner on hawks gen for my 83 camaro T-top and was wondering how good they are?
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Old May 21, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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They are awesome, one of the best restoration products for our cars! You will run into a dome lamp fit issue but it's easily overcome.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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They are awesome, one of the best restoration products for our cars! You will run into a dome lamp fit issue but it's easily overcome.
dome light fit issue?
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Old May 21, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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The manufacturer thought the dome light mounts backward. You can redrill the holes for the mounting pins and move them 1/4" forward, mount the domelamp backward, or upgrade to a map/domelamp from a Buick.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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i currently have a map/domelight it has map lights are the ones from a buick diff.?
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Old May 21, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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add 1 without the map lights.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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add 1 without the map lights.
why would i do that map lights r nice to have and look good
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Old May 21, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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i agree the map lights look better, thats my opinion about the domelight.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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i agree the map lights look better, thats my opinion about the domelight.
oo cool me 2
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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My car I just bought has the plastic headliner. Very nice and sturdy. I just got the dome light w/ map lights from the junkyard and put it it. I needed to cut the plastic to get it too fit in.

Cutting the plastic is a bit of a pain though. A knife with a serrated edge would be ideal.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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will the stock domelight(with map lights) from his camaro work?
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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I am a family man and dont have the money to spend on a new headliner and dont have one in my car now.....has anyone every made one for the car completely from scratch?
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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well i completely recovered mine today, its not really that hard to do, i maybe spent a total of $45, ur best bet is to get one at a salvage yard, there pretty cheap there if ya can get a half decent 1.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 84 Trigger
well i completely recovered mine today, its not really that hard to do, i maybe spent a total of $45, ur best bet is to get one at a salvage yard, there pretty cheap there if ya can get a half decent 1.
or find one
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Old May 22, 2006 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 84 Trigger
will the stock domelight(with map lights) from his camaro work?
The headliner will need to be modified to make it work, if it looks like the one in this thread...
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/body...mp-option.html
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Old May 22, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MurcoRS
The headliner will need to be modified to make it work, if it looks like the one in this thread...
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/body...mp-option.html
its the same domelight i have in mine
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Theres pics of my new ABS headliner in my cardomain

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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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nice, much better pics

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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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nice
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 02:29 AM
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Here some pics of my new ABS headliner in the car what do you think?

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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 06:01 AM
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it came out great! Nice Job
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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it came out great! Nice Job
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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How long did it take you to install it?
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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Looks great.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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when you get the ABS headliner, are all the holes for sun visors and the done light already cut, or do you have to cut them?

Looks great, this is on my list of things to get done in the next couple pay checks, so I'll be ordering one too in the next week or so.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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u have to cut them out but i installed one but the sunvisor brackets dont really line up. the dome light u have to mount backward and if u have map lights u have to get a plain domelight.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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Alright cool, I was wondering because I'd like to get rid of the sun visors. Cutting for the dome light wont be bad, I think I can handle that.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by unklechuckles19
when you get the ABS headliner, are all the holes for sun visors and the done light already cut, or do you have to cut them?

Looks great, this is on my list of things to get done in the next couple pay checks, so I'll be ordering one too in the next week or so.
on the plastic board they are but the material has to be cut and maybe some modifing, the domelight if you have the map lights or upper consil have to do some extra cutting but if you have the regular dome light it will work but have to mount it backwards like mine had the map lights so i went to the junkyard and got the regualr one and mounted it backward as you prob seen it the pics above and i did have problems with the sun visor holes were to small the screws wouldnt go in so ether dont cut the sun visor holes out or make them a lil bigger but check and make sure be4 cutting you dont want to cut it to bigg but its VERY sturdy and you can bend it any way you want and it wont break
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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How long did it take you to install it?
about 30 mins, ran into some problems but came out great
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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I have the hard top and it took me about 15min to install, but i reopolstered it from the original board.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Thanks for the help guys. I feel a bit better about doing this now.

I too tried to re-cover the old headliner, but the old board was so brittle that between removing it from the car, and getting all the old fiberglass and glue off, it just crumbled into pieces. I figure if I'm going to re-do the headliner, I might as well just get the ABS and get it over with.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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wow, comp froze up and triple posted that...mods delete this.

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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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same with this one...sorry about this.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by unklechuckles19
Thanks for the help guys. I feel a bit better about doing this now.

I too tried to re-cover the old headliner, but the old board was so brittle that between removing it from the car, and getting all the old fiberglass and glue off, it just crumbled into pieces. I figure if I'm going to re-do the headliner, I might as well just get the ABS and get it over with.
yea its realy good headliner are you getting it from Hawks third gen parts? i recomend getting it from them the said it would take 3 to 4 weeks and it got to my door at 2 weeks 6 days, realy fast getting it made and shipping it
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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Yea, it was either goign to be Hawks, because I've heard nothing but praise for Bruce, the owner, and his staff, or I was going to get it from Jims85IROC, I believe thats his user name. He has his own store and sells alot of interior pieces including the ABS headliner, so one or the other.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by unklechuckles19
Yea, it was either goign to be Hawks, because I've heard nothing but praise for Bruce, the owner, and his staff, or I was going to get it from Jims85IROC, I believe thats his user name. He has his own store and sells alot of interior pieces including the ABS headliner, so one or the other.
well I think what ever one is cheapest go with them, Hawks is good thats where I got mine from but if Jims85IROC is selling it cheaper go with him
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