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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Center console compartment light

i have an 84 firebird, well when i got the car it had a light in the center console light, well i put a bulb in there and it doesnt shut off, it uses the bulbs u find in the side marker lights. could i mount a switch somewhere to turn it on and off or is there another way to fix it? it wasnt hooked up when i bought it so i have know idea if theres something missing or not? plz if u have any ideas let me know.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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they make a switch for it if your talking about just putting the bulb in the wiring clip it will stay on i did that figuring the bulb was just never replaced but it requires a switch that shuts the light off after u close the door on the counsole
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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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where would i get a switch, i checked junkyard birds but no luck, i think something is missing on the compartment.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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yea, they probably took the bulb out because the light wouldnt turn off. If it is just the switch and not an alignment issue with the console, you should be able to fix it. Right above the bulb is a little d shaped opening that a button type switch goes in. When the lid is closed, it closes the switch like your door uses for the dome light. If its there, its probably bad, if not, you need it.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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there hard to find
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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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could i add a toggle switch somewhere. just cut into the wiring?
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Old May 29, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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yea its possable to do that but i might have one laying around out of my sis's dead camaro ill sell it to ya for 7 dollar
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Old May 29, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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lol, no thanx, ill add a pic tommorow to see what u guys think

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Old May 30, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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sorry i didnt post a pic today ill add one tommorrow, well i was reading my manual and it said that light is also 4 the rear ashtray??? i looked 4 where that switch would be but i didnt see anything except this u shaped thing. so mabye the light only comes on when the lights go on? i traced the wire back but didnt see where any switches would tap into the wire. im stumped u guys, i was thing of mounting a rocker switch somewhere. Any ideas?
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Old May 30, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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That U shaped thing is probably where the switch goes...pics tomorrow will help...
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Old May 30, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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the only prob is the u shaped thing is like a cap, like u say itll help when i post some pics.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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There is also a one piece unit that is similar to those used in the glove compartments of early-90's GM cars. I have that one, with the switch and the socket in one assembly. If the numbers were still on the sticker I could give them to you, and get another switch for myself. These items are very hard to find, as I have yet to see one in either the GM parts catalogs or Classic Industries' restoration catalogs.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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Im sorry i didnt post any pics today, have been on a busy schule, ill post one this week sometime, but i looked at it again and there isnt anywhere a switch would mount too.
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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heres the pic

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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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No fair.. You have a light in your console! LOL!

Now I think Im going to do that for my car! A light, a pouch, and a lighter plug in for accesories. The lighter plug would be great for a cell phone charger, I cant stand that wire hanging in my way while Im driving! I will post this mod, and how to do it, if I do it.

Well back to topic.. Are you sure that U shaped thing isnt pressing somthing on that lid? Are there any wires leading to it on the underside?
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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I have seen 2 different kinds of console lights...one with a switch, it has a button on the top so when the console lid closes the light goes off. They other type doesn't have a switch on it, so I guess it stays on all the time. I don't know what cars got which switch, or if it came with the courtesy lamp option. There are 2 versions though...I got one from an '84 and it doesn't have the switch on it. My '82 didn't come with a lamp in the console, but I don't have the courtesy lamp option. Hope this helps.

Edit... I just checked my parts and illustration catalog, and it shows the switch to be part of the Lamp Option Group RPO TR9. Part is discontinued by GM. The part number it lists is 25509430

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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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Look what I found yesterday, too bad I don't have a third gen to put it in

[IMG][/IMG]

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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 82 Iron Duke
Look what I found yesterday, too bad I don't have a third gen to put it in

[IMG][/IMG]
I've got one of those on a shifter plate I got out of an '84 TA. Not sure what the connector hooks up to, but the smaller light is for the shift indicator panel that lights up. The other light I think somehow hooks under the ashtray for an ashtray light. My '82 doesn't have this...in fact the wiring is completly different compared to the '84. I put the 84 shift plate in my car and just transfered the wiring from the '82. I like the red backlighting
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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ok i looked inside my 82 t/a console- inside the storage part

and in the rear vertical wall of the box- up towards the top- is a pretty large perfectly round hole


and then just above that hole- out on the horizonal top edge of the box opening- theres a large D-shaped hole..

i think that one must be for the switch and the other for the light ?

right ?

i think mine has the wiring for it,

there are several sets of black and orange wires that were underneath, in the console assembly,
one pair of them are hacked off i know and i never did figure out yet what they are for, ( i think they are the longest two wires under the console assembly)

so hmm..

i wonder...

those wires in oyur pic above look to be black and gray ?

hmmm.....

i wish i could get inside the 82 right now hmm
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Yes the wires are grey and black with a female 3 point plug at the end.
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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interesting



does anyone know what the longest orange, and the longest black wire are for towards, or at the end, of the console wiring ?

in 82 birds anyways ?

the metal shrouded light and the otherlight are still intact in mine so its not one of those, and the power window wiring is fine not cut either

i hvae been stumped ever sinc ei removed the console assembly one day to find the two wires hacked off


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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Fast68
interesting



does anyone know what the longest orange, and the longest black wire are for towards, or at the end, of the console wiring ?

in 82 birds anyways ?

t


thanks
I know that the orange seems to be for the interior lighting. I know I took out the under dash courtesty lamps and harness from an '82 at the junkyard to put into my car. My car didn't have the option but I was told that all cars had the connection plug under the dash regardless. I think there was a couple wires that just plugged into the back of the fuse panel also. Also I pulled out the hatch lamp in the rear cargo area because mine didn't have it and the lamp had a very long orange wire going to it from the front...so I would guess the orange has to do with interior lighting.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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hum, im gonna have to wait until i get the car out and find a pic card reader for the digicam so i can pic my harness and see if you guys can figure out what the two hacked off wires are on mine

hmmm


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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Wow its weird how this thread came back too life. This is a pic of what my 84 has, still havent figured it out yet.

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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bandit84
Wow its weird how this thread came back too life. This is a pic of what my 84 has, still havent figured it out yet.
My '82 has the same thing. I don't have the courtesy lamp option and it looks like you don't either. I remember seeing a wire with a plug on it under my console and didn't know what it was for...I thought maybe the seatbelt buzzer switch. I'm thinking that it actually goes to the interior lamp option if equipped. Alot of cars had the same harnesses, regardless of the options. I got a switch from an '84, but the spring inside is broken. I took the switch apart and the spring desintigrated, so I will have to find a different spring. I thought about a spring from a pen, but it is too big. I probably could make the hole bigger with a drill bit, but haven't got around to it.
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1982TA
My '82 has the same thing. I don't have the courtesy lamp option and it looks like you don't either. I remember seeing a wire with a plug on it under my console and didn't know what it was for...I thought maybe the seatbelt buzzer switch. I'm thinking that it actually goes to the interior lamp option if equipped. Alot of cars had the same harnesses, regardless of the options. I got a switch from an '84, but the spring inside is broken. I took the switch apart and the spring desintigrated, so I will have to find a different spring. I thought about a spring from a pen, but it is too big. I probably could make the hole bigger with a drill bit, but haven't got around to it.
What was the courtesy lamp option?
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bandit84
What was the courtesy lamp option?
it is the option with the lights under the dash and console and rear cargo area
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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O, i have the lights under the dash.
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bandit84
O, i have the lights under the dash.
can you post a picture of where you are putting the bulb in the center console?
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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Do you mean the socket or where you access it? IDK if this helps but you have to take out the rear ashtray, the you take out the ashtray backing(two screws). then you should find the light bulb.

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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 11:40 PM
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Do camaro's have the light in the console because I looked and couldn't find it??

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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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i dont think so
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