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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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T-boned, write off?

I have some sad pictures to show you all....what Im wondering who thinks it will be a write off and who thinks its salvageable? The diff is cracked and the axle is broken...thats all I can see so far

Was hit on wednesday by a 21 year old kid driving his parents minivan, he blew a red light....what a pis$ off

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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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A lot of guys on here will probably tell you to junk it. Three questions... Is the roof buckled? Is there an obvious buckle to the driver's quarter panel? Does the front of the door that is damaged line up top the fender? If the answer to the first two are no, it's repairable. The third is minor, but bears asking. That will tell if the uniside is damaged past the point of impact.
Also look at the mounting point for the axle. Is the uni-body damaged in any way? That's probably gonna be the deciding factor.
From the photos, it looks as if it needs a quarter, Axle, outer wheelhouse, door, and some work on the door opening frame. Labor intensive and expensive?... sure, but is it worth it? I'm sure it is. Your insurance company, however, will tell you otherwise.
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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It is fixable...but any insurance company will total it........
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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what he said. see if you can buy it back from the insurance co.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Im pretty sure the roof is buckled somewhere, I forgot to take pics of it today but the hatch has about a 9/16" to 5/8" gap between it and the driver quarter...and judging by how badly the banjo was busted on the diff I'm sure theres lots of stuff bent under there as well

I agree though the Insurance company will probably write it off, the only thing I got going for me is it was appraised in 98 for $8000 and Ive only put 36000km on it since including $3000 in upgrades since 2002, so it'll be interesting to see how much I get....still wont be near as much as I want..
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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if your handy, put it up in the garage and dig in, if not, find another car and maybe swap any add ons etc? oh and the main thing you need to do, T bone that kid in the face...
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i swear to god if anyone ever hits me in my camaro they better do it hard enough so that i cant get up and out, because if i can, they will be in deep...

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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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I say that you make sure they pay for at least a decent car if you have to get a new one. Not your fault after all.
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 01:30 AM
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That sucks about your car but it looks fixable.
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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Same thing happened to me but its not quite as bad I was quoted $1500 to fix
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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I say that you make sure they pay for at least a decent car if you have to get a new one. Not your fault after all.
That's not how insurance works,(at least here in the states...) I noticed he's in Canada, and I'm not sure of Canadian law, but I would suspect it's pretty close to the same.
They insure the car for a value. If it takes more than that value to repair the car, they pay you the value. Now, something I would suggest that everyone do to help in this situation...Check with your agent...I have "set" the value that I think my car is worth. I am paying based on that value. (Within reason...If you are going to value it at like $20,000.00 or something like that, they will require some documentation to back that up...which may include a licensed appraiser to value tha car.)
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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it will be more than likely to be totalled....but it is fixable...just depends if you would want to put the money into it. If you were able to put it on a good frame rack....alot of the damage would pull out. You would also have to replace a few parts (door, quarter, ect.)
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 1988CamaroSC
oh and the main thing you need to do, T bone that kid in the face...
I agree I would have, too many witnesses though, if I could have got away without anyone seeing it I would have

Yeah Kevin our insurance is pretty well the same, they give you blue book value for your car unless you've gone through all those steps to insure it for a higher value

I'm pretty sure mines gonna cost more than $1500 to fix, snapped banjo, damaged posi, bent rim, bent panhard, quarter, door, wheel house, not to mention all the cracked paneling inside.... it all adds up pretty quick, I am a pretty handy mechanic just not a body man by any means.

Still undecided what I want to do....just finished putting a about 100 hrs into the motor and accessories and such....not sure how much I have left in my tank to fix this....
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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Your best bet will probably be just to find a decent roller and swap your engine and tranny into that.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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Heres some more pics just to show how hard the impact really
T-boned, write off?-directed-damage.jpg

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T-boned, write off?-passenger-hatch-gap.jpg
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Some more
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T-boned, write off?-accident-explained.jpg
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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Also, Thanks for the condolence's everybody, I will let you know what happens with the car when its all said and done...
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 03:26 AM
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sadly they will mor ethen likely write it off, this is why i'm going through the steps of getting my iroc insured for higher value.

hopefully insurance isn't as bad as the icbc i got, screwed me when my v6 got totalled
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 04:26 AM
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Take him for all hes worth. Get what you can for the car, then buy it back from the insurance Co. . Take the motor and such from it and transplant it into a fixer-uper you find for cheap that needs work/has no motor/tranny. That sounds like your best bet to me. Say you get 1,500 for your car. Then buy it back for say $1000(hopefully). Then you can spend $500 on buying a car that needs work as stated above. Just transplant any and all that was worth keeping from your old car to the new one and then use/sell parts from it the wrecked one.
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 05:05 AM
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dude, that sucks. hate to see such a straight car all wacked up by somebody else that doesn't give a rat.

is it an original HO z28?
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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2 weeks and 2 days now and finally I get a return call from buddies insurance company.....turns out he wasnt a listed driver on the policy! So in otherwords if the say he didnt have permission they consider the vehicle stolen and I have to sue him in court...hoping for the best in this situation!

I would love to find a cheap roller and start from scratch and swap everything over...just don't know if I have enough in me to take on a task like that...and at this point Im ready for a new vehicle without as much maintenance...but then again a mans gotta have his toy!

Yeah Tobias original motor and everything anyway...changed to a 3:42 posi...and punched out that 305 a little more with porting..headers..intake..carb..cam...etc.etc.

Its sad...thats original paint! 21 yrs old....not more than a dime size piece of rust around the windshield
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by maverick69can
Its sad...thats original paint! 21 yrs old....not more than a dime size piece of rust around the windshield
WOW that realy sucks, I wish I could say the same for my car haha. If I got hit by a car my car would crumble into dust haha I cant even shut my door without a chuck of bodo/rust coming off. But anyways nice pics, hope everything works out okay for you.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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Is it me or does everybody who gets into an accident, the insurance companies always find some f****** stupid ways to f*** us.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by maverick69can
Yeah Tobias original motor and everything anyway...changed to a 3:42 posi...and punched out that 305 a little more with porting..headers..intake..carb..cam...etc.etc.

Its sad...thats original paint! 21 yrs old....not more than a dime size piece of rust around the windshield
dang that sucks...i would have taken your place! lol.

seriously that sucks though.

wish you the best in court, whats the world coming to when you have to sue the insurance company just to get your car covered from someone else's mistake...

brandon
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 92centexcamaro
Take him for all hes worth. Get what you can for the car, then buy it back from the insurance Co. . Take the motor and such from it and transplant it into a fixer-uper you find for cheap that needs work/has no motor/tranny. That sounds like your best bet to me. Say you get 1,500 for your car. Then buy it back for say $1000(hopefully). Then you can spend $500 on buying a car that needs work as stated above. Just transplant any and all that was worth keeping from your old car to the new one and then use/sell parts from it the wrecked one.
The insurance compancy would sell you the car for around $200 not $1000.
I bought back a brand new wrecked RsX for that price. worth way more than that camaro. Salvage yards by wrecked cars for that price. Besides it saves them money.

as for the court case, that is BS your insurance compancy should compensate you and they should sue him in court not you. It is called uninsured motorist. tell your insurance company you want your money or you will sue them too.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by nelapse
as for the court case, that is BS your insurance compancy should compensate you and they should sue him in court not you. It is called uninsured motorist. tell your insurance company you want your money or you will sue them too.
Well luckly I live in Alberta and our government has a slush fund that insurance companies pool into for this sort of thing, so the govenment will give me an unsatisfied judgement settlement and then they will go after the kid...hes almost fu$#ed for life after that..or at least it'll take him a long time to recover...but still its gonna take them forever to cut me cheque for it
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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i wouldnt worry about the hatch gap. its more likely that when he hit you it just knocked the hatch loose and it shifted over to the side he hit you. i doubt its because the whole car is crushed. if it was, then you would have a close gap on both sides.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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man that sucks sorry to hear and see that but mabe u can park it and build/fix it at a later date.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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its only fixable if you have the resources and time and $ required to do it

everyone is different, and in their own kind of life, you know

you have to worry about the damage it did to the body tub up under the rear, attachment points of the rear suspension to the car tub, what parts got wacked and bent and misaligned, such as LCa mounting brackets and so on, all will have to be checked and realigned and so forth

could be alot of work depending on the person, to some ppl it would be nothing and is the kind of work they do all the time, to others its a huge deal and would be impossible to do or next to it

a person would have ot sit and think about this stuff before deciding to tackle such a thing,

personally i am unsure, it would all depend on the amount of damage done ot the body tub and rear suspension mounting points and so on,

it really seems that ppl's cars' front bumpers are really attracted to the nicer rides like this

i see rusted junk *** beatrs running around non stop daily just fine never any trouble, but when you see an accident it seems 9 out of 10 times its a really neat or unique or valuable ride that gets hit

around here anyways, seen it a million times,


its crazy,


sorry it happened id be so damned pissed off, hope something good comes out of this,

if you can get it for a couple hundred backs off the insurance co then i would seriously do it, either way

its still worth more than that, and plus with all the work you have in it, and the time and money and so on

for real.


good luck
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Man I am really sorry for this situation landing in your hands. That was a beautiful Iroc you had. But you gotta tell yourself no one is perfect and everyone makes mistakes. So from here you need to take what you have. So I suggest by your car back from the insurance company and tubb the rear, throw a shortend 9' ford in under there, fix the quater, and drop a 383 with a turbo 350 tranny in the engine bay and then you will have the best iroc on the streets. You could even just store it and slowly gain back more money and rebuild it when the time is right for you. Either way I feel for you and I hope you work something out.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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wow the thursday after the 18th i belive some lawn mowing company pulled in front of me (the guy didnt have a liscense imagin that)and it completely just smashed the front end of my car luckly the radiotor wasnt punctured or anything but im afraid the insurance will total my car i hope they dont, but thank goodness they were driving a companmy truck

edit the pic in my sig was taken the monday before
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