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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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flat painting questions

im going to be painting my bike flat black ive also been thinking about doing it to my camaro to but i havnt been able to find many good instructions on how to do it the proper way can anybody explain it to me or maybe tell me a book that would lead me in the right direction thanks
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Considering that most people prefer Shiny things... I would think the procedures and the steps involved are the same as a gloss paint. Usually flats are a little easier because you do not need to worry about dust & dirt...

There was a Flat black 2nd Gen Camaro across the street where I work (about 10 years ago) I always thought it looked like it was in primer...

I imagine it would be good for dodging Police lasers though

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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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From: Osceola Indiana
Car: 92 RS(sold) 1989 IROC-Z
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: ones that turn
step 1: Sand car
step 2: Go to autozone/advance auto and buy flat black spray cans
step 3: Spray away(this the fun part!!)
step 5: Watch paint dry
step 6: Stand back, and admire
Thats what I did on my old camaro, and it didn't look half bad, but would I do it again hell yes
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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no rattle cans this is a quality paint job not saying yours didnt look good though
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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I believe there is something called a "flattening agent" which you can add to any paint to give it a dull finish. Beyond that, I think you can order flat black paint... I don't believe clear coat is required.
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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Car: candy blue 85 z28
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check this out

HOK Paint Home Page

see speciality products flattening agent you add to your clear coat...

now even easier one. same site click on kustomz shop look at the flatened paint single stage ready to go just add the catalist and mix super good and spray great stuff good price. they also have flattened clear if you want a trick color with that same 30% flat.

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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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Car: 87 & 89 Iroc's
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PPG DP 90 flat black sealer
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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thanks for all the great replies that iroc looks awesome i dunno what it is about flat black but i love it
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
It would probably depend on the brand of paint, but I know SOME base coats are flat when you spray them, when you clear coat it then it becomes gloss. I believe it helps with adhesion as flat paint is porus, much like primer...

John
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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All base paint is flat, that is why it needs cleared. There is flat clear available to put over the base. All base paint needs clear on it to seal it or moisture can get to the metal.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
I know that the primer is porous, and needs to be painted But I have never seen base color coat being porous... I do know that you can put a sealer coat between the primer and color coat to help eliminate primer shrinkage...

John
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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If you don't seal base coat, it draws moisture and it can chalk. Not everyone seals the base (to get the flat look) , but that isn't the correct way to do it. For it to last, it needs sealed.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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the only right way is to clear it, plain base or sealer is not deisgned to withstand uv rays water and the like we run into with a car. if you dont use a clear it will fade so fast in the sun your work would be a waste. flattened clear or the flatz single stage will last just like any other paint job

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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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