I did a search and there is only one thread about it. I need to roll my rear quarter lips to fit my 315s. I know others have had it done. How did you do this. If you google it there are many BMW guys out there doing it and so one. I just want to hear from a thirdgenner how they did it. My body shop can do it, but I want to see if I can save the $ and do it myself.

 

i saw a thread earlier that talked about this. the guy said swing away with a hammer and you can get some clearance. try the search for the max tire size and you might find it.

 

A lot of people use the Fender rolling kit from Eastwood. It's pricey for just doing it once though. But you can rent it online from some places as well.

IMO it's something you need to be very careful with doing. You can easily crack the paint.

 

I am going to see how much my body guy charges. But I have found a place online that rents out that tool. Cost is $50 in the end +shipping. The tool is $250. The price of the tool gets given back when you return it.

I dunno, seems like a lot of $ no matter what. I kinda just want to cut it off and buy a dead blow hammer and tap it after being heater with a heat gun. I may do that since I have a heat gun already. The hammer is like $10 and the cutting wheels I have too.

Hmmmm.... Maybe I will just take my time and do it little by little.

 

I thought i read it on here. You need a wooden baseball bat. Put the fat end in the fender, sit on the handle. Get lever action going, and get your freind to drive back or forwards SLOWLY. Aparently it works, but ive never tried it.

If that didnt work, id prolly do it with a hammer, i need to repaint my car anyways.

 

ya that's old school way. If paint is not a big issue then use the baseball bat. if it is then bit the bullet and let the body guy do it.

 

I did this to my car because I was having problems with my car being lowered and having wider rear tires. I thought about using the tool but chose not too. I think the tool is more for an unfinished project, like something you dont mind painting. Seeing as I just painted my car Id rather not have to paint my quarters again. So I chose to use the wooden bat method. The way to do this is to make sure the metal is warm but be careful as you can damage the paint by getting it too hot. A good rule of thumb is to make it just hot enought so it doesnt burn you when you touch the metal. I then jacked up the side I was orking on just enought to fit the bat between the tire and lip. Angling the skinny end of the bat towards the ground I bagan to slowly roll it in. Dont try to get it all the way rolled on the first pass, go over it a few times. In my case I only had to do the tops of the quarters, youll probably have to do the same. I did end up chipping off a little bit of paint. I had left over paint tho. If you do happen to chip some, which Im sure no matter what method you use you will, it is an easy fix. Our cars have that nice little step on the rear wells. What I did was to use the step to my advantage and hid a tape line on the edge of that. Unless youre down low with the lip in your face there is no way youll ever see it. Theres another way to fix chipping and with your car being white it would be very easy for a shop to do. This would be to blend out into the quarters and then buff off the end of the blend. A body shop would kno how to do this. I work at a body shop, this technique worked well for me. If youd like any more info on how I did it or even pics of ho wmine tunred out let me kno.
Matt

 

Yeah, I have read that too. but I don't think I can get enough roll like that. I really need this thing to be OUT OF THE WAY, haha.

I think that maybe I will cut it a littl and then try to roll a bat in there.... I don't have a bat... hmmmm.....

Well we will see. It would be nice to just have the body shop guy do it and forget out it.


I wonder how weak the quearter skin would be without that lip there....???

 

the fender lip isnt the only issue a freind had to cut something off the inside aswell has 335s on 17 tt2's

if you get just the right offset the fender lip is even less of an issue

ive also seen people just cut it

 

I would love pics. Even if it is just one pointed up to show how far in you managed to push it all.

I kinda don't understand your method of doing it either.

You jacked it up from the body and having the tire hang there you inserted the bat and lowered it down over and over with heat and a little a time?

That makes sense but i don't know if that is what you ment.

I get how people say drive and roll it but it would be hard to get a round hard piece of wood the exact right size to do that. with it jacked up you can stop whenever you want.

I am not too worried about the paint. It is all done under there already from rubbing for so long. It will need some touching up anyways.
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So you have experience with this huh, Azrael91966669?

How do the cut ones look? Thats what i want to do the most cuz I don't have to put all that bending stress on the body. I would rather just slice it right off and call it done.

Fill me in on how you feel about each method since you have seen both. Thanks for all the help

 

just put the bat in between the tire and the quarter and push down. I find that bigger guys do it better. Just push down, move an inch over repeat. $8 bat from walmart got the job done, I think it was a kids wooden t ball bat as it was slightly thicker. Don't cut, just bend the thin metal. The front lower section on the inside of the wheelwell will probably have to be hit with a hammer as well to fit the tires.

 

What ever you do dont just cut it off. All those little spot welds along the edge were talking about bending are part of what hold the quarter on. Your asking for more prbelms the cutting it off. I had to jack my car up a little to fit the bat in because of how low the car is. Ive seen it done before where you can cut slits into the lip to roll it over easier. I got mine to roll up pretty far doing it the way i mentioned. If Im out in the garage ill grab a few shots of what I did.
Matt

 

Stevo and I did it with a metal baseball bat on my car. It works great, it was really hot outside that day, otherwise I would have used a heat gun to heat up the paint, to keep it from cracking.

 

Thats right, i read that in the same thread. There was a bit of debate on it, both accomplished the same thing. The metal one is also fine if youre careful.


By the way, you guys and xpndbl3, if you guys have any pix of this, id like to see them.

Ive always heard about the infamous rolled lip, but ive never actually seen it. I upgraded to 17s so i need to do it soon.

Seen plenty of cutup wheel wells for minitubbing, but never just a rolled lip. Any pix would be great.

 

I found it very difficult to sucessfully roll the fender lips on our cars without cutting a groove into the lip in a few spots. I used a cut off wheel and cut into the lip about 1/2" every 6". I also took a razor blade and sliced a line right into the paint on the outside lip of the panel. there is an indetation where the line canbe sliced into. I did this so the paint wouldnt peel or chip any further then that. I ONLY did this becuase I plan on painting in the spring. If you choose not to paint your wheel wells then you better think hard about how your gonna bend metal and still keep the paint stuck to it. Especially under there where the paint is already taking a beaten from road debris.

 

WORKS GREAT cutting the grooves.

You can see all the little lines i cut in mine here.(about 7 of em in this picture on the front side. I went all the way around.)
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/Car...s/DSC01192.JPG

little cutting and heating worked great. Too bad that car isnt around anymore.

New one I plan to do the same thing to but its also in the middle of mini tubbing.

 

OK, looks like the debate is pretty much over for me. I am getting a bat tonight after work and trying this weekend. It is almost freezing these days so its not a good time to try this, but I will heat up the metal before I try. I will have someone heating it a little right at the spot that I am rolling. Doesn't really matter anyways, as there is no paint under there anymore anyways for me to chip. I am going to get the paintjob touched up over the winter anyways so I am not too worried.

Well thanks for the help. Looks like a heat gun and a bat are in my future. That will finally get my tires in the rear just the way I like them. Then all I have to do is make bump stops but I have some ideas up my sleaves for that. Anyways, thanks again.

-Dennis

 

Dennis, if your willing to drive down to Westport MA then I will be more then happy to help you on your car. I live about 2 seconds off Rt88 near Rt 195. I have the tools here already to do some small cutting and bending. I just did this same thing to my buddies 4th gen and you cant even notice it at all. I will even show you onmine how it looks when its done. I dont like the bat idea because you take the chance of denting the quarter panel by putting too much pressure.

 

I woudn't mind driving down, but what tools are you talking about that you have? I have a compressor, cutting wheel, small 3 lb. sledge hammer, rubber hammer and I was going to buy a dead blow hammer. Do you have bettter tools? Or just more experience? I have never done this and after building an entire car I know the importance of experience. How far are you from me? I will google it to get an idea.

Thanks so much for the offer to help. When are you free? Sat/Sun?

Thanks again.

- Dennis

 

There is a guy on LS1TECH that was renting the EastWood one out. There where a lot of guys that used it.

 

Cutting, bending, special tools?

Grab a wooden baseball bat. Have your friend sit in the car. Press the bat into the outter edge, let the car roll in neutral till the bat falls off the tire and your done.

I even used a metal bat cause thats all i had and it chipped in like one spot where its not even visable.

Very simple task here, there isant anything to it, you wont mess up your paint job, if you do chip paint none of it will be on the visable part of the car.

I dont have any pictures right now but i wish i did.

If you do the rolling in neutral method you will get a lot more smooth/even bend all the way through and it looks professional.

Anyway you do it just grab a bat and have at it.

$20k paint job would i do this? Probably not just cause there is always a "risk" but honestly i havent seen this method fail yet.

 

I hear ya. My paint job was a 3 grand only. If I can save some $ by not having my body guy do it, then I am all about it. I am getting a new cam, intake and a fresh dyno tune so I wanna save as much on this kinda crap as possible.

I am paying him already to install my door hinge pins and fix a couple small chips. Then he is wet sanding for free. Shoudln't be too bad once I finally get around to it. Anyways, after this paint stuff and dyno stuff, car will be hibernating soon. I just want it to be perfect for next season. Register and go

To pass the time I am re doing the interior and making new door panels. Should be fun.

 

online170 is right, you just use a wooden baseball bat preferably, thats the trick for rolling a lip on 4x4 trucks to fit larger tires in without a lift....i would prefer a wooden bat over a metal one because i'm not sure if youve ever seen a metal bat pop lol, it can be funny lol (when i was a kid we used to hit rocks into a swamp type thing near me with our metal baseball bats, then mine just like popped lol, shards of aluminum came off it and like dust, i guess aluminum dust?, went in the air....ever since then i havent really trusted metal bats)

 

Hey guys, ive always been a visual learner, and if you have trouble visioning how this process goes, heres a vid i found.

The guy uses an actual tool, but i can see now how easy it actually is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFXDLibLOy8

 

Thanks for all the help and link. I think that I will try to do it this weekend. Might have to go buy a bat. If I really feel bad about going on with it once I have started i will call you bottled and set up a time for me to come down. Really wish you were closer. But oh well. From the way people are talking about it, I should be fine. Can't be too much harder than anything else I have been doing to the car. Only thing that sux is that it is so cold these days. right now it is freezing out. maybe on a 50*F day I can use a little propane torch heat and a space heater in the garage at the same time.

Get the lip warm and use a cheepo bat. If I am in my garage and can't really roll the car, can I just jack it up and let the body come down on the bat resting on the wheel? then maybe move and inch one way and the other. then do the same thing in a different area?

 

It really looks better if you can move the car, rather than the bat, also a lot easier then the method your describing. Why not just wait until you can move the car?

 

Wow... loaded question. haha. Well I don't want to wait, cuz I need to take the car to the dyno and that is an hour away. I want to take the car to the dyno before winter cuz after I won't have a job and I want to make sure I can pay for it now. Also I don't have any other good wheels to drive an hour away on. So I either do it in the next two weeks or I don't do it at all. My Nitto 555Rs already have a few DEEP cuts into the meat of the tires. Like enough that you can lift up a tinny flap of rubber. They actually got caught on the lip coming home from a show and pulled the lip down. So I really need to fix this before I drive it again. I was lucky to not have a blow out. Good thing is that the tires are new so there is a ton of meat to cut into and not worry about them being weak.

Anyways, I am going to use a bat and heat it up so I can go to the dyno safely. Then after the car gets its new cam and intake, I will take her down to my body guy for a wet sanding, chip touchup, door hinge install and I will have him spray something on the lips to protect them. If it looks off I will have him roll them a little better before the spray.

That should do it for the winter. And get it ready for the new interior over the winter.

Thanks for the advice everyone.

 

How did it go Dennis? I need to do this soon, and I sure as hell dont want to mess up the paint.

 

Minimal results really. yeah the metal moved a little, but not enough that I would say that I rolled the lip. Next time I build this car I will be getting it done by a body shop and having them do it.

 

Worked great for me!

 

Got any pics Kris? any paint damage at all?

 

No pics that really show anything. Just heat the paint up with a heat gun before you roll it.