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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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I'm looking to start my firebird project from the frame up. Its a 1991. The engine and tranny are already out of the car. The interior is striped out except for the dash.
Can anybody give me some tips on removing the body from the frame?
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Are you serious? I'm not trying to make fun of you, but it's kinda amusing that you bought the car and removed the engine without yet finding out that these cars are unibodies... the body and frame are one unit. In effect, there is no frame. The front and rear sub-frames are welded right to the body.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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yea man you cant take the body of the frame. we all have to learn somewhere and it looks as if you have jumped head first into a deep pool, nothing wrong with that just read up on here and learn as u go.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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yep, no frame, you can however take the subframe off, I believe its just bolted on, atleast it is on new cars.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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Re: body removal

Originally Posted by Tmic87TPI
yep, no frame, you can however take the subframe off, I believe its just bolted on, atleast it is on new cars.
Nope, can't unbolt the subframe on 3rd or 4th gens, I do believe you could on first and second gens though. You can however unbolt the front k-member if you'd like. As was mentioned above the front and rear subframes are welded in on these cars, the only way to remove them is to drill out all the welds or some other method of cutting. Tmic, can you give me an example of a "new" car with a unboltable subframe? By subframe I mean the actual subframe, not a k-member, not saying you are wrong I just can't think of any off the top of my head and I work on all makes and models 6 days a week..
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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I know alot of new cars have unbolt-able front subframes, just this week I've done 2 ford tarus's and a ford escort (I R&R transmissions, not just fords, just been a crappy week lol) and I've dropped the subframe on each one of those.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Re: body removal

Originally Posted by seitz83
I'm looking to start my firebird project from the frame up. Its a 1991. The engine and tranny are already out of the car. The interior is striped out except for the dash.
Can anybody give me some tips on removing the body from the frame?
Sawzall
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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Re: body removal

Originally Posted by Frozer!!!
Sawzall

lol.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Re: body removal

Originally Posted by Tmic87TPI
I know alot of new cars have unbolt-able front subframes, just this week I've done 2 ford tarus's and a ford escort (I R&R transmissions, not just fords, just been a crappy week lol) and I've dropped the subframe on each one of those.
You're confusing k-member/cradles with subframes. The subframe is what they bolt to. They are also unboltable on our cars, however the subframe is a welded on structural part of the body.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Re: body removal

I think he's wanting to know how to remove the body panels.
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