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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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modern paint questions

I'm thinking ahead to repainting my camaro after I finish my 58 impala project.

I know how to get good results with lacquer, and feel it's not the worst option for a garage kept car, but I'm open to a more modern paint for a more modern car. Lacquer paint can look amazing for years if you take cae of it, but when neglected, it's terrible

Can you tell me what kind of paint you all like? Is there a single stage out there that is worth using? Or do all of them pail to the results of BC/CC?

for single stage urethane, do you sand and polish it just like lacquer? What makes it shine?

It's a little intimidating moving away from what you know into the unknown, but I can't think of a good reason to paint an 89 with lacquer other than it's easy, and that's probably not a good enough reason
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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Re: modern paint questions

Personally, I like Nason BC/CC made by Dupont, but I don't know how much longer it will be availiable.

It's cheap, easy to use, covers well, and makes a great looking job in the end, and I haven't seen any problems with it. If the car is garage kept, that will definitely help as well.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 05:20 PM
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i went to school for automotive collision repair and refinishing so mind me that i know what im talking about. with painting bc/cc is the top and only way to get the right paint job. now depending on your skill the steps you take and the paint you use will decide how it comes out. but bc/cc will last longer then pretty much any other kind of paint. in school fer our production work we use alot of dupont and PPG paint. both came out perfectly fine. higher end shops who do wprk with bmw and mercedes and all that use sikkens. there the high end brand of paint.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 06:02 PM
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Re: modern paint questions

thanks. It's easy finding information on BC/CC, but SS urethane is a lot harder. Doing it myself, i'm not so concerned about it being the longest lasting paint job, but one that is easy to put on, and easy to touch up
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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Re: modern paint questions

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thanks. It's easy finding information on BC/CC, but SS urethane is a lot harder. Doing it myself, i'm not so concerned about it being the longest lasting paint job, but one that is easy to put on, and easy to touch up
id say bc/cc isnt hard to work with, being a freshman in high school with no prior knowledge was still simple in general to spray. you just need to know the correct air pressure and all that.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Re: modern paint questions

ive heard SS requires the same maintenance as lacquer.

also you cant shoot lacquer over enamels so keep that in mind.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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Re: modern paint questions

While I prefer bc/cc you can get great results with single stage. It can be sanded and polished like a lacquer if it is a solid color, with metallics it is not possible as you will disturb the flakes and it will not look right.

Some of the new clears are simply amazing and that is what I use. It gives you some more material to work with if (heaven forbid) a scratch should happen!

I feel if you can do lacquer you can do bc/cc or single stage urethane. The thing to remember is that they chemically harden so read and follow the directions on pot life and flash time between coats.

I think you will be amazed how much more they build and "finish out" nicely, the chemistry has come a long way...
There is a huge difference in the hardness of some acrylic urethanes from one to the other so having some experience with one product does help.
Unlike lacquer you do not have to wait so long to start sanding too! HTH
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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Re: modern paint questions

While I prefer bc/cc you can get great results with single stage. It can be sanded and polished like a lacquer if it is a solid color, with metallics it is not possible as you will disturb the flakes and it will not look right.

Some of the new clears are simply amazing and that is what I use. It gives you some more material to work with if (heaven forbid) a scratch should happen!

I feel if you can do lacquer you can do bc/cc or single stage urethane. The thing to remember is that they chemically harden so read and follow the directions on pot life and flash time between coats.

I think you will be amazed how much more they build and "finish out" nicely, the chemistry has come a long way...
There is a huge difference in the hardness of some acrylic urethanes from one to the other so having some experience with one product does help.
Unlike lacquer you do not have to wait so long to start sanding too! HTH
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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Re: modern paint questions

thanks for the great reply. I know what you man about the problem in working with a single stage paint with metallics. It took me quite a bit of trial and error to get good at painting my Dad's 58 with metallic Lacquer, but when I got the technique down, it was as good a paint job as you have ever seen

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I am probably going to use BC/CC when I paint my Camaro. We did the 58 in lacquer for originality's sake, but I can't use that excuse for the camaro
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