ok i know that they help stiffen the car. i know that weld ins are better. but what i dont know is how do they get them in there. i mean this may sound stupid. is it dissambled then welded together. our doors arent that big and the tubes go all the way to the roof. please give me some feed back on this. it may sound stupid but isnt it a logical ?. i thought so and i really want an 8pt cage . thanks all.

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1990 IROC-Z L98 350 TPI
AFPR 49PSI, GUTTED AIR BOXES, K&N, RAM AIR, UNDERDRIVE PULLEYS, PORTED PLENUM, B&M SHIFTER, 3.23 LIMITED SLIP, DUAL CATS, STOCK SUPER TURBO EXHAUST, COOPER COBRA XST's

MUSTANGS...ONLY 4 LUGS....HAHA THAT IS HILARIOUS.

 

The rollcages and rollbars come in pieces. They are welded inside the car.

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Old: 1989 Formula, 383", DFI, built 700R4, TFS heads, Mini-Ram, Vortech S-trim 15 psi, 3.70 gears
Best ET: 10.796 @ 125.8 mph

New: 1989 T/A, 400" CNC Bow-Tie Tall-Deck, Accel Pro-Ram, DFI, AFR heads, HRC T76 Turbo, NOS 150-hp dry kit, TH400 w/GV overdrive, 12-bolt w/3.70 gears, 8-pt. S&W rollbar, Spohn suspension, 18" wheels, Baer brakes
Best ET: Spring 2001

Employed at:
Hahn Racecraft
Accel EMIC/DFI Tuning
Turbosystems & Custom EFI

Member of Midwest F-Body Association www.mfba.org

 

A buddy of mine just put in a 6 point cage in his 84 T/A.
It comes in pieces and gets welded together inside the car.

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84 FIREBIRD-(undergoing rebuild)2.8 V6,5spd super economy model
no options except t-tops( not even locking),no tilt,no cruise,no delay wipers,no rear defroter,no a/c,no rear spoiler(i put one on)no pw,pdl,pm,pseat,no gauges(just a 85 mph speedo with no trip odometer and a big f***in' gas gauge)
90 FORMULA 350-
Edelbrock t.e.s,gutted cat,Borla cat-back,LT4 hot cam ,24# injectors,holley h.p. fuel pump,K&N Throttle Body mounted air filter,52mm throttle body,accel 8.8mm wires,plugs cap and rotor,ADS superchip,GTA tailights,T-tops,4th Gen 17's with 275/40ZR17 Comp T/A's,93 Z-28 seats
No E.T's yet.

WANTED:82-84 Firebird 2.5 4cyl,4spd-Just Cause

Previous 3rd gen's
83 Trans-Am 305 CFI auto T-TOP
84 Firebird 305 H.O. auto HARDTOP
87 Firebird 2.8 V-6 auto HARDTOP

 

thanks guys that is what i needed to know.. is there any really good cages to go with i am looking for an 8pt. thanks again

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1990 IROC-Z L98 350 TPI
AFPR 49PSI, GUTTED AIR BOXES, K&N, RAM AIR, UNDERDRIVE PULLEYS, PORTED PLENUM, B&M SHIFTER, 3.23 LIMITED SLIP, DUAL CATS, STOCK SUPER TURBO EXHAUST, COOPER COBRA XST's

MUSTANGS...ONLY 4 LUGS....HAHA THAT IS HILARIOUS.

 

Competition Engineering........check it out.

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85 Berlinetta Iroc exterior Lg4 305 best e.t 14.4 street tires naturally aspirated....installing/ rebuilding 450-475 HP 454....YAHOOO!!!

 

I run an 8-point bar from S&W Racecars. Nice, cheap, and the optional f-body door bars are bent to clear my door panels and even my Corbeau seats. Better than any rollbar I have ever seen... www.swracecars.com

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Old: 1989 Formula, 383", DFI, built 700R4, TFS heads, Mini-Ram, Vortech S-trim 15 psi, 3.70 gears
Best ET: 10.796 @ 125.8 mph

New: 1989 T/A, 400" CNC Bow-Tie Tall-Deck, Accel Pro-Ram, DFI, AFR heads, HRC T76 Turbo, NOS 150-hp dry kit, TH400 w/GV overdrive, 12-bolt w/3.70 gears, 8-pt. S&W rollbar, Spohn suspension, 18" wheels, Baer brakes
Best ET: Spring 2001

Employed at:
Hahn Racecraft
Accel EMIC/DFI Tuning
Turbosystems & Custom EFI

Member of Midwest F-Body Association www.mfba.org

 

How hard is it to install a rollcage cleanly? How do you put the carpet in and how do you paint the cage? Does it get in the way of any plastic interior peices. I saw pics of a roll cage installed on a Camaro and it didn't look too neat.

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3rd Generation Camaros

 

It's a pain in the butt. My whole interior came out, then my welder put in the bar. Next, my bodyshop masked off anything I didn't want painted black. After paint goes the new carpet. You have to measure carefully and cut holes in the carpet to wrap around the bars.

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Old: 1989 Formula, 383", DFI, built 700R4, TFS heads, Mini-Ram, Vortech S-trim 15 psi, 3.70 gears
Best ET: 10.796 @ 125.8 mph

New: 1989 T/A, 400" CNC Bow-Tie Tall-Deck, Accel Pro-Ram, DFI, AFR heads, HRC T76 Turbo, NOS 150-hp dry kit, TH400 w/GV overdrive, 12-bolt w/3.70 gears, 8-pt. S&W rollbar, Spohn suspension, 18" wheels, Baer brakes
Best ET: Spring 2001

Employed at:
Hahn Racecraft
Accel EMIC/DFI Tuning
Turbosystems & Custom EFI

Member of Midwest F-Body Association www.mfba.org

 

I know you are all Quarter-Mile'rs, and I don't know jack about that, But if you want to go SCCA racing, the cage can't be welded to the car.

BTW, I helped install a 4-pt bar (bolt-in) in a BMW M3, and all we had to do was taKe out the seats. The whole thing goes in in one piece.

Good Luck!

 

why cant it be welded in.. i am going to race SCCA this summer with a buddy of mine. just curious. you would think it would be stiffer that way. and the bolt holes would become oblong on the bolt in one. wtf

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1990 IROC-Z L98 350 TPI
AFPR 49PSI, GUTTED AIR BOXES, K&N, RAM AIR, UNDERDRIVE PULLEYS, PORTED PLENUM, B&M SHIFTER, 3.23 LIMITED SLIP, DUAL CATS, STOCK SUPER TURBO EXHAUST, COOPER COBRA XST's

MUSTANGS...ONLY 4 LUGS....HAHA THAT IS HILARIOUS.

 

some SCCA classes are screwy like that, but most of the faster classes (not 150% stock) require a welded cage.