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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 03:26 AM
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POOKEY'S ANTI-THEFT THOUGHT!

How's this sound, shave your door locks off (having power doors and a alarm connect to them is a must) and use the alarm to unlock them. If the remote fails, install a power lock switch in your trunk glove box. That way, you will never be locked out. Kepping the lock on the hatch is a must or maybe hook antoher switch for the hatch under the bumper. May deter criminals. If not, they will just break your window.

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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 11:52 AM
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yeah, and then add a hidden cut-off switch to prevent the starting of the car. That wasy they can only steal parts of the car not the whole thing.
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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 11:53 AM
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Whaddia gonna do when you leave your lights on and your battery is as dead as can be?

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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 12:01 PM
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Like he said, leave the lock in the hatch, and if necessary climb through there. Or install a hidden cable somewhere to unlock the door.
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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 02:54 PM
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I spose that'll work for most. I was going to shave my handles, but I had nightmares of stuffing my toe through the cone of my subwoofer the first time I had to crawl over my stereo to get into the car.

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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 03:03 PM
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The switch ih the back is a fail safe in case the remote doesn't work. If your lights are on, you should get the audible tone telling you they are on, press the remote button to unlock the doors. If it kills your battery, then you climb through the back.

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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 08:22 PM
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Umm try this one folks. Thats if you do not mind loosing the cigarette lighter... Disconnect all power from the lighter. Take you ground wire for the coil and run it to the two sides of the lighter power supply. Then you have a real trick anti theift... your lighter becomes the ground when it is pushed in. It will never pop out cause it does not get hot.
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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 11:29 PM
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hey hunter can you be a little bit more specific
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 01:16 AM
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i was watching TLC and these two theives tried to steal a car (camaro BTW) that they set up with a bunch of anti theft devices. they couldn't get it and said if that had been real they would have trashed the car since they couldn't steal it. just a thought.
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 01:32 AM
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Stupid retards that try to steal cars and can't will just end up trashing it anyway, so you F***ed if you do and F***ed if ya don't.

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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 02:20 AM
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see, me. mines better.
put a few NRA stickers and some recently shot shells on the floor and passenger seat/


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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 02:28 AM
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Sorry, but if you own a firebird and you forget that your lights are on you shouldn't have one in the first place. Assuming the headlights are working of course, lol. Another good thing to add to that combo is that new glass that is coated so when it shatters it doesn't break apart. A strong film that looks like tint holds it together.
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 07:05 AM
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I've left my lights on on my Firebird countless times, but it's not really my fault. I had a Clifford alarm system that had the automatic headlight system, so I never had to shut them off. 30 seconds after I shut the car off, they went off automatically. BUT, sometimes during the day for various reasons I'd put my lights on, then forget all about it.

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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 11:24 AM
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Well there was an article in Car craft I believe and I am still tring to find it. This is after they had gotten the stolen chevelle back. They had used the lighter (correct me if I am wrong) that the way lighters work is it has a power lead that when the lighter is pushed in grounds out and heats up.(I think) Now if you remove the power and ground leads(so the lighter is totally isolated) and replace each with one end of the ground wire for the coil it SHOULD work. How it works is the circuit is open until the lighter is installed and pushed in.


Oh and it won't pop beause the poping agent is the heat generated. So it will always stay in.

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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 12:08 PM
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I've never left my lights on and never will in my 92 RS. How do I know I won't? Cause when they are on and the car is off, it makes a tone until they are shut off. I love that feature cause otherwise I'd probably leave em on all the time. Doesn't anyone elses cars do that?

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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 12:38 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by B430:
i was watching TLC and these two theives tried to steal a car (camaro BTW) that they set up with a bunch of anti theft devices. they couldn't get it and said if that had been real they would have trashed the car since they couldn't steal it. just a thought. </font>
Yeah, but most of the time, if they can't get the car they'll just move on. This is when it pays to park next to a Vette
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 12:40 PM
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yea, teh loud beeeeeping, i like it as well, ive only had my batt die twice on me, and both times it was in shop ,(music) other times that beeping saved me allot of trouble, -Thank you trouble beep.
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 05:49 PM
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Trouble beep.. Nice way of putting it...


Ok.. Sorry Im dense.. What is the purpose of Lighter thing.. To pop something.. ...

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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 11:21 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 92Camaro305TBI:
Trouble beep.. Nice way of putting it...


Ok.. Sorry Im dense.. What is the purpose of Lighter thing.. To pop something.. ...

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the purpose of the lighter thing is to make a trick anti thieft.... You run the coil ground like that and well the car won't start unless the lighter is pushed in...

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Old Jun 23, 2001 | 03:26 AM
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that sounds like a great idea, but what are the chances that your lighter stops working so you can't start the car?
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Old Jun 23, 2001 | 04:34 AM
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Hey Camaro_Hunter, I love the lighter idea, if you can, set me up with the plans to hook the lighter up (I mean everything, I am not that smart with 3rd gens yet). I will sacrafice my car for the experiment.

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Old Jun 23, 2001 | 04:43 AM
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Hey Jim, explain a little for me. You said you have a Clifford alarm that automaticaly turns off your light after 30 seconds, but then you say you put your lights in during the day for various reasons. If you set your alarm, so the thieves will not get into it, then they would automaticaly turn your lights off after 30 seconds, so why is your battery dying?

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Old Jun 23, 2001 | 10:36 AM
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Anyone try a switch on the power lead to the fuel pump? If you cant get no fuel to the engine, you cant steal the car.
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Old Jun 23, 2001 | 05:17 PM
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Yes, that is the way I did mine. You need to go to the relay located on your firewall. Use a Helms manual for your year to find the correct wire. Ain't saying where I hid my switch though

That lighter switch trick sounds pretty good. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you remove the lighter, or don't have it pushed in then the coil isn't grounded out and so the car will run. Only when it is pushed in is the car disabled.

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Old Jun 23, 2001 | 07:29 PM
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The pop-a-lock guy couldnt even get in my car when I locked my keys in it. For me the best feature on my camaro is the beeping noise when I leave my keys in the ignition. Crutchfeild sells an alarm pager so when your alarm is activated it will page you and even let you know what zone on your car is being messed with.
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Old Jun 23, 2001 | 09:58 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Z288Iroc:
Crutchfeild sells an alarm pager so when your alarm is activated it will page you and even let you know what zone on your car is being messed with.</font>
I saw that, too, but wonder how reliable it is, as far as distance and interference from buildings, etc.

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Old Jun 24, 2001 | 12:24 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Blue502:


That lighter switch trick sounds pretty good. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you remove the lighter, or don't have it pushed in then the coil isn't grounded out and so the car will run. Only when it is pushed in is the car disabled.

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No the oppisite. The coil cannot ground unless the lighter is in and pushed in. It works the exact same way as the original lighter works(Just no heat). Push it in and it gets hot. Why does it get hot you ask?, it does because it has grounded...
Pookey Just do like I said in my privious post and your done. BUT PLEASE REMEMBER TO DISCONNECT THE POWER TO THE LIGHTER AND CAP, BLOCK, TAPE, COVER, DO ANYTHING TO KEEP THE ELECTRICITY FROM ARCHING FROM THE WIRE ONCE IT'S DISCONNECTED.

But Just for you here ir is once again.

1. Locate the ground wire for the coil.
2. Splice it where it is STILL IN THE WEATHER PLASTIC STUFF.
3. Run the "spliced" wires to the interior of the car and under the dash. Do it any way you car to, through firewall, fender whatever..
4. Pull the fuse for the lighter.
5. Remove the retaining cover to the lighter and pull it out.
6. Cut the power wire as close to the lighter as possible, But leave enough room to connect the "spliced wire". REMEMBER TO CAP IT OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7. Remove the ground wire in the same manner, do not worry about that wire dangling, It's not hot.
8. Connect the "spliced wires" and replace the lighter to its slot.
9. Remove the lighter and try to start it... I bet it won't...
10. You can do this trick for just about anything... Just please use low amperage stuff. You can safely control the Fuel pump relay like this too(install an inline fuse holder to make sure) If you only have High amp stuff you can wire a relay into the system and have a 2 amp activation wire to control the relay.


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Old Jun 24, 2001 | 12:29 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Blue502:
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That lighter switch trick sounds pretty good. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you remove the lighter, or don't have it pushed in then the coil isn't grounded out and so the car will run. Only when it is pushed in is the car disabled.

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ok well if the coil IS NOT grounded how can it operate?. The pushed in lighter completes the circut. An electrical system cannot operate without 1. A power supply, 2. A ground. If you remove 1 then it won't work.
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Old Jun 24, 2001 | 11:04 AM
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hey guys, i just got the DEI setup and its gonna get installed in like a week.
well anyways. i got the pager as well, and i know that another guy i know got it as well, (he spent like over 1500 in parts i spent 900.
anyways, he carries it at school, work. allover. and when i get mine ill test it out. theres the post about alarms in prod review
https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/...ML/001566.html

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Old Jun 24, 2001 | 03:34 PM
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Oops, me got confused there. Thanks for correcting me. Now I gotta go take some Advil to cure my pounding headache. Ground, no ground, ground, no ground... aaahhhhhhh
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Old Jun 24, 2001 | 08:01 PM
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Theres alot of good ideas in this post, but if a theif wants your car back enough they will find a way to get it. You dont have to get inside a car to steal it, you can yank it onto a flat bed truck and drive away with it. Thats why it doesnt seem to be such a bad idea to invest in a monitoring program which can track your car if it is stolen.
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Old Jun 24, 2001 | 08:12 PM
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Bad thing about monitoring systems ( I assume your talking about Lo-Jack or something similar ) is that if car was parked at 8:00pm, and the next time you go to your car is at 7:00am, you don't know what time your car was stolen at so having Lo-Jack is kind of useless. By the time the police get to you, the chop shops already have it in 100 different pieces.

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