Do thirdgens hold up in accidents???
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From: MA, USA
Car: 83 bird
Engine: 305/383
Transmission: WC T5
Axle/Gears: 3:42
I got hit in the back by a Corsica doing about 45mph... the whole car was shifted but drivable... both doors were sticky, the hood and hatch were crooked... but if I was in an import... that would have been the end!!
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From: Rugby, England
Car: 1988 IROC Vert
Engine: 355 ZZ4
Transmission: T5 Manual
Originally posted by 87WS6
How do you flip a thirdgen? The things have such a low center of gravity and generally hold the road so well. I can't understand how this would happen. Not unless your going over 100 or something. IF you were going over 100 I would expect the car to look more beercanish.
How do you flip a thirdgen? The things have such a low center of gravity and generally hold the road so well. I can't understand how this would happen. Not unless your going over 100 or something. IF you were going over 100 I would expect the car to look more beercanish.
Easy just spin sideways into a curb.....
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From: Acworth/Marietta, GA
Car: 88 IROC
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: Pro 5.0 shifted T56
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 3.73 posi
quick overview- wet pavement, locked posi, flipped car, amazing results.....
our cars are built like battleships. last summer i was coming home from my girlfriends house in the bird and it was raining. i was going about 60 on US 12 (55mph zone) and i went to turn right onto my road. i thought i was playing it safe and being gentle but when i eased on the gas again as i was turning my posi locked up and the rear end came around on me. i managed to back off and straighten her out but it was too late and i had run out of pavement. i flew off the other side of the road into some wet grass and slid into a tree stump. the stump hit my passenger side front and literally lifted the whole right side of the car up in the air. when the car finally stopped it was laying sideways up in the air resting on the drivers side. i crawled out of the t-top (door and window were into the ground) and looked at it. i thought i was screwed but i just gave it a good shove and it came back down again. amazingly NO DAMAGE AT ALL!!!!!!
luckily it had been raining all day and the car just slid into the mud. didnt even damage my mirror. the car was still running, so i threw a towel over the seat (just because i wrecked doesnt mean i have to dirty my interior) and actaully drove the car out of the ditch and on home. not so much as a scratch. all it did was make one headlight fall down and dented the plastic which i just popped right out again. i couldnt belive i hadnt even dented the fender. that incident made me realize that someone up above is watching out for me....
2 days later my girlfriend backs her moms car right into my drivers door, totally crushing it. that made me realize that someone down below is laughing at me.....
our cars are built like battleships. last summer i was coming home from my girlfriends house in the bird and it was raining. i was going about 60 on US 12 (55mph zone) and i went to turn right onto my road. i thought i was playing it safe and being gentle but when i eased on the gas again as i was turning my posi locked up and the rear end came around on me. i managed to back off and straighten her out but it was too late and i had run out of pavement. i flew off the other side of the road into some wet grass and slid into a tree stump. the stump hit my passenger side front and literally lifted the whole right side of the car up in the air. when the car finally stopped it was laying sideways up in the air resting on the drivers side. i crawled out of the t-top (door and window were into the ground) and looked at it. i thought i was screwed but i just gave it a good shove and it came back down again. amazingly NO DAMAGE AT ALL!!!!!!
luckily it had been raining all day and the car just slid into the mud. didnt even damage my mirror. the car was still running, so i threw a towel over the seat (just because i wrecked doesnt mean i have to dirty my interior) and actaully drove the car out of the ditch and on home. not so much as a scratch. all it did was make one headlight fall down and dented the plastic which i just popped right out again. i couldnt belive i hadnt even dented the fender. that incident made me realize that someone up above is watching out for me....
2 days later my girlfriend backs her moms car right into my drivers door, totally crushing it. that made me realize that someone down below is laughing at me.....
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From: Acworth/Marietta, GA
Car: 88 IROC
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: Pro 5.0 shifted T56
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 3.73 posi
Yeah, some circumstances are beyond structural integrity.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT CAR???the seat is totally crushed right where the passengers head would have been. i dont suppose they walked away from that one....
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From: Acworth/Marietta, GA
Car: 88 IROC
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: Pro 5.0 shifted T56
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 3.73 posi
Have a close look under the door. Is that a cloth with blood on it?
3rd gens in accidents
I had a jeep go thru a stop sign (cops estimated he was doing 45mph) and bend my 87 IROC-Z into a U-shape. No kidding, the drivers side front end was 6 inches past the drivers side front door. THe paramedics kept telling me to sit still, don't move, etc. Then the fire department came and looked it over and were like "but there is no passenger compartment intrusion!" So they pulled me out, stuck me in an ambulance and carted me to the hospital. I had the most FANTASTIC seat-belt brusies hip-to-hip and hip-to-shoulder, the cops didn't have to ask! And that was it. No whiplash, no cuts, no broken bones, no nothing. The car was totalled, but it did it's job and protected the passenger. Because they are uni-body, most insurance companies will total them out after any major hit, but they DO protect the passengers. Same car, two years earlier, got hit from behind at a traffic light. A drunk in a 76 caprice hit the Jeep Cherokee sitting behind me at the light and threw him into me. The Jeep looked like an accordian, the caprice looked like Wile Coyote after he hit the cliff on the rocket. I drove my car home. I had un-insured motorists (they guy was illegal, drunk, unliscensed and uninsured!) and a tailight lens, bumper, bumper cover and a frame job, $1200 later she really was as good as new.
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From: Centerville, Ohio
Car: '05 Pontiac G6
Engine: 3.5
Transmission: Auto
Axle/Gears: Slow lol.
I totaled my Camaro in 2000 coming home from a friends house late one night. He lives in the sticks so being on those roads late is sometimes eventfull. A couple friends were behind me about 4 car lengths and saw a little of the accident.
I'm assuming as I was coming around a corner, I must have swerved to miss an animal and in doing that the rear lost grip and I started drifting in the turn almost clipping a phone pole. I guess as I was trying to regain control it was too late. I was doing the speed limit of 50. I hit a parking block that launched my car 8 feet in the air. The front nosed into the asphalt parking lot and I slid into the side of a building.
I woke up in the hospital about 3 hours later thinking I was dreaming the whole thing. I had a broken collarbone, 4 broken ribs, abrasions on my face and arms, collapsed lung and bumps on my head. At the time I was more upset about my car than myself cause I had just finished the paint, interior and engine.
While I was being taken to the hospital, my friends started grabbing anything of value out of my car and took it to my house since they knew it was going to the scrap yard, lol.
I'm assuming as I was coming around a corner, I must have swerved to miss an animal and in doing that the rear lost grip and I started drifting in the turn almost clipping a phone pole. I guess as I was trying to regain control it was too late. I was doing the speed limit of 50. I hit a parking block that launched my car 8 feet in the air. The front nosed into the asphalt parking lot and I slid into the side of a building.
I woke up in the hospital about 3 hours later thinking I was dreaming the whole thing. I had a broken collarbone, 4 broken ribs, abrasions on my face and arms, collapsed lung and bumps on my head. At the time I was more upset about my car than myself cause I had just finished the paint, interior and engine.
While I was being taken to the hospital, my friends started grabbing anything of value out of my car and took it to my house since they knew it was going to the scrap yard, lol.
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From: Long Island, New York
Car: 91RS
Engine: 305tbi
Transmission: 700R4
I was going about 105 one time and hit a telephone poll probably at about 90 (yes i know i'm an idiot and I don't do that anymore). Anyway the poll came up about 12in from the firewall because it hit the driver side and missed the engine, the roof crumpled, the floor on the driver side crumpled up to the point where if you look you couldn't see the petals, then the car pivited around the poll and hit a tree on the passenger rear quarter. I walked away with a bruise on my ankle from a maglight i had next to the seat flying foward. So I have to say, these things hold up really well in accidents. Although had I not hit on teh front where I did I might not have been so lucky, the car crumping up instead of stopping when it hit the engine, helped teh car to not stop so suddenly, the alot of the momentem was transfered to the piviting, which caused teh floorjack i had sitting on the hump to fly out through the hatch rather than foward into my head.
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From: Montgomery, AL...for now
Car: 1987 F150...PAAARTY FOUL!
Engine: 300 I6 stump pullin sumbiscuit
Transmission: 4 speed grind box
Axle/Gears: 3.55 unlimited slip differential
this is right after being rearended by an F250! the IROC drove away, the F250 got towed (broken tie-rod)
Last edited by screaminformula; Sep 5, 2003 at 11:43 PM.
im a good reckless driver, i actually stop at red light,i dont tail gate. i look bolth ways as im floating by stop signs, i make perfect power slides at speeds of 50 + on turns you wouldent deam of taking more than 35, I routenly drive to work at speeds between 130-145weeving through very light trafic, ill keep the covorsation going whlie accidently doing a 180 or 240 in the rain. ive been in more spins , close calls ,than i can even begin to recall. but the one time in meny weeks i wasent speeding or spacing off. the person in front of me locks em up, probly half a second later i do to. and hit a denali at only 15mph, barly hit the actual bumper meat, and realy smashed up the upper section of the front. still ran and looken at a 1G in parts and 1-3G in body work. still being repaired.
so that will teach me to obay the law
so that will teach me to obay the law
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From: NJ fo0
Car: 1986/88 Frankenstein Trans Am
Engine: carbed L98
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Originally posted by phaledax
im a good reckless driver, i actually stop at red light,i dont tail gate. i look bolth ways as im floating by stop signs, i make perfect power slides at speeds of 50 + on turns you wouldent deam of taking more than 35, I routenly drive to work at speeds between 130-145weeving through very light trafic, ill keep the covorsation going whlie accidently doing a 180 or 240 in the rain. ive been in more spins , close calls ,than i can even begin to recall. but the one time in meny weeks i wasent speeding or spacing off. the person in front of me locks em up, probly half a second later i do to. and hit a denali at only 15mph, barly hit the actual bumper meat, and realy smashed up the upper section of the front. still ran and looken at a 1G in parts and 1-3G in body work. still being repaired.
so that will teach me to obay the law
im a good reckless driver, i actually stop at red light,i dont tail gate. i look bolth ways as im floating by stop signs, i make perfect power slides at speeds of 50 + on turns you wouldent deam of taking more than 35, I routenly drive to work at speeds between 130-145weeving through very light trafic, ill keep the covorsation going whlie accidently doing a 180 or 240 in the rain. ive been in more spins , close calls ,than i can even begin to recall. but the one time in meny weeks i wasent speeding or spacing off. the person in front of me locks em up, probly half a second later i do to. and hit a denali at only 15mph, barly hit the actual bumper meat, and realy smashed up the upper section of the front. still ran and looken at a 1G in parts and 1-3G in body work. still being repaired.
so that will teach me to obay the law
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From: Arlington, VA
Car: 89 Iroc-Z
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
My car was in a pretty good accident awhile back, was driving onto the interstate ramp and this dude cut me off, and i turned out of the way and slipped cause the ground was a lil moist. did 3 360's at 45 -50 miles an hour and hit the guard rail. i wasn't wearing my seat belt and survived without even a scratch. my car had a few of them, but we are actually in the process of fixing it at the moment =) they are quite sturdy cars
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From: Newfoundland
Car: 88 Camaro SC
Engine: 2.8 ->305->350
Transmission: 700R4
Originally posted by 1bad91Z
Just depends on the accident. This guy probably did not make it.
Just depends on the accident. This guy probably did not make it.
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Car: 1991 Z28
Engine: 305 TPI
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Speaking from personal experience, my '91 RS was completely totalled beyond any hope after my wreck. I was going around 40 mph when the car hydroplaned on a curve and hit the concrete rail of a bridge head-on. The destruction to the car was so extensive that from the front you cannot even recognize it as a thirdgen, much less a Camaro. I had my seatbelt on and my face still hit the windshield - perhaps the best indication I could provide as to how devastating the damage to the car was. As impossible as that may sound it's documented in the police report and evidenced by the obvious indention in the glass. My passenger was not as lucky - most unfortunately not wearing a seatbelt. The design of the dashboard in the Camaro is particularly dangerous in the event of a wreck because when a person is thrown forward almost invariably their throat will strike the protruding plateau of the dash and then their forehead will (again, more than likely) strike the windshield. That's precisely what happened here.
So, that's my story. I'm not saying anything negative about the structural integrity of our cars - I was actually pleased with how the car held up. I mean, I'm obviously still around....much to the chagrin of some!
So, that's my story. I'm not saying anything negative about the structural integrity of our cars - I was actually pleased with how the car held up. I mean, I'm obviously still around....much to the chagrin of some!
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From: MA, USA
Car: 83 bird
Engine: 305/383
Transmission: WC T5
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Originally posted by BirdsofPray
Speaking from personal experience, my '91 RS was completely totalled beyond any hope after my wreck. I was going around 40 mph when the car hydroplaned on a curve and hit the concrete rail of a bridge head-on. The destruction to the car was so extensive that from the front you cannot even recognize it as a thirdgen, much less a Camaro. I had my seatbelt on and my face still hit the windshield - perhaps the best indication I could provide as to how devastating the damage to the car was. As impossible as that may sound it's documented in the police report and evidenced by the obvious indention in the glass. My passenger was not as lucky - most unfortunately not wearing a seatbelt. The design of the dashboard in the Camaro is particularly dangerous in the event of a wreck because when a person is thrown forward almost invariably their throat will strike the protruding plateau of the dash and then their forehead will (again, more than likely) strike the windshield. That's precisely what happened here.
So, that's my story. I'm not saying anything negative about the structural integrity of our cars - I was actually pleased with how the car held up. I mean, I'm obviously still around....much to the chagrin of some!
Speaking from personal experience, my '91 RS was completely totalled beyond any hope after my wreck. I was going around 40 mph when the car hydroplaned on a curve and hit the concrete rail of a bridge head-on. The destruction to the car was so extensive that from the front you cannot even recognize it as a thirdgen, much less a Camaro. I had my seatbelt on and my face still hit the windshield - perhaps the best indication I could provide as to how devastating the damage to the car was. As impossible as that may sound it's documented in the police report and evidenced by the obvious indention in the glass. My passenger was not as lucky - most unfortunately not wearing a seatbelt. The design of the dashboard in the Camaro is particularly dangerous in the event of a wreck because when a person is thrown forward almost invariably their throat will strike the protruding plateau of the dash and then their forehead will (again, more than likely) strike the windshield. That's precisely what happened here.
So, that's my story. I'm not saying anything negative about the structural integrity of our cars - I was actually pleased with how the car held up. I mean, I'm obviously still around....much to the chagrin of some!
...was the passenger ok?
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From: Yorktown, Va
Car: 89 RS
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
i dont have pics, but a few months after i bought my 89 RS, sept 2002, i rearended some bonehead who came to a stop in the middle of the intersection. i was getting ready to move around him before i entered the intersection and wham!. The insurance guy said over 2k in damages to mine. 700 to theirs. i hit right in the light well on my front end i drove it home, orderd parts from the junkyard, straightened the radiator supprt with a come-along and bolted everything back togethor. parts were 400bucks. now all i need is a paint job.
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From: Munster IN
Car: 92 RS, 05 GTO (sold), 10 TL AWD
Engine: 383 HSR w/DSC1
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Strange S60/3.73
this is another reason to get a car fax check before you buy one. I checked out mine and found out it did the 360 boogey a few times. whole right side was ripped off!!!!! that was an awsome thing to hear when the car was in for paint. car fax mearly listed the car as "accident, car undriveable". anyways all good now.
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From: United States
Car: 1991 Z28
Engine: 305 TPI
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Originally posted by aaron7
...was the passenger ok?
...was the passenger ok?
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