Hey ,

I'm doing a school research project on some product within a coraperation ,so I picked " Saving the F-body"....what I need is to interview people , but putting your reasons to through out the f-body or keep the f-body in production here would be just as good.Thanks

 

I think this poll will be unanymous.

 

I posted no. even though the fbody is a nice a car. gm needs to totally change the camaro and firebird. like chevy did in 83, changed the entire vette around, top to bottom. the fbody is dead and just got to move on.
Shaun

 

Yes......it should but ditto as above.....Arn't corvettes still the same "body" letter as when they started? If not I think the should save the Camaro/FireBird......not the f-body

 

I am actually torn between saving the F-body & letting it go.

On the one hand I would like to se a next gen, just because I think there awesome cars....

On the other hand, I look at the price, and I think, I can't afford a new one anyway, why save it. Beside, all of us who own an F-body will appreciate the idea that once they stop production the value of our cars should go up faster than if they continue production.

I find it very interesting that back in 1967-1970 that half of the new camaros & firebirds sold were to people under the age of 25. Now if your under 25, you can hardly touch a new camaro/firebird. Heck I am almost 30 years old, and I could probably buy one if I wanted one bad enough, but it would strap me so bad that I could not pay for gas, let alone the insurance. They are waaaayyy too expensive today, and I assume let it go away if GM wants to overcharge for the cars.

Just my opinion...

 

The F-Body has been put on "haitus" according to the pres of GM. I know for a fact, my own personal belief, that the F-Body is not dead, they are just taking a break to redesign it completly and in the proccess raise the value of the cars already produced.

i personally believe the 97+ Fourth Gen is ugly. Great Performance though. What happened to Camaro being the affordable Sports Car? That's what GM lost grip of. And not to mention the fact that they got ugly. I have 3 resons on why the FBody doesn't sell anymore:

1.) Too D*mn Expensive
2.) Ugly as H*ll
3.) Everyone is buying Ricemobiles and SUVs, nobody wants the power anymore, they want the calss othat SUVs and Lexus has.

In my opinion this is what they should do: (not to the f-body and corvette though)
The average American does not care what is under the hood. Solution: Make the new cars electric. It'll leave more as for us and as prices wont be so d*mn high.

There is just one MAJOR flaw with my logic though. There is no way the the Gas Company will let car manufactures sell electric cars. They want to sell there product, they can't sell there product if not as many people have cars that run on gas.

Anyway back on topic though, I don't know about the rest of you, but I sure can't wait to see what the Fifth Gen will look like, cuase we all know that there will be one, and this whole thing is a marketing plow to get 2002 car to sell

 

Of course they should be. Let the M*****g win?? Never. They have always been the better car. The M*****g sales figures prove without a doubt, that people still like musclecars. They like affordable musclecars. These cars have too much in the 35 (almost 36) years they've been here to just not be produced like the other GM musclecars that didn't last as long as F-Body and weren't as liked as they are.

I can tell u this. The CAMARO WILL be back. The Firebird, probably not. The Camaro is the original F-Body, Chevrolet did all the design work on it and theirs was used for both cars. Pontiac never wanted the Firebird to be an F-Body and based on the Camaro in the 1st place. This is their chance to do something different like they've always wanted to. Why is the 4th Gen not selling like the Third Gen did?? For alot of reasons. Look at them. They don't even look like MuscleCars anymore. Every Gen until the 4th had its own distinctive look. Not the 4th. They saw how the Third Gen's sold and tried to make the 4th look like a "newer", rounder, Third instead of giving it its own look. Guess what?? MuscleCars shouldn't be round, they should have the lines of a tough musclecar. Not a Chrysler. Even the new F**d still has lines and isn't all round, even though IMO they don't look good at all. Their int's should be better, why do they look like every other cars int. now?? U can't even find a car with an int. that looks like the Third Gen int. It just looks tough and musclecarlike. Why can't 4th's handle as good as the Third?? Why do they not appear to be as strong as the Third and look like they are made out of plastic?? Why don't they sound good anymore?? WHY is their price SO high?? People like to say no marketing causes this. Marketing definetly helps, but I haven't seen any commercials or advertisements by F**d for their car and its selling like crazy. The ONLY thing the F-Bodies have going for them right now is power, straight line performance. I mean, the M*****g has been winning in sales pretty much the whole 4th Gen. They won it. Guess who won the Third Gen?? The Third Gen F-Body combined outsold the M*****g ALL years except 3 from 82-92. Also, the CAMARO outsold the M*****g 5 of those years all by itself, while outselling the Firebird every year as usual. When the 5th Gen is released I really think all these things will be fixed and will be the way the 4th should have been, I have these things all on good word.

 

hey, IROCZTWENTYGR8... plz stop bashing firebirds *hugs hisbaby*.. u'r hurting it's feelings...
no disrespect to GM but... i agree.. firebird's have been draged along by camaro, conformed to what the camaro's frame was.. at least in the 2nd gens they still had pontiac motors... third gen?.. it's just a sleeker (more exotic) looking camaro.. and 4th gens look ugly?.. well.. plastiky yeah.. but.. i find that TA's got nicer looking as they goot older.. especially 98+..
GM should keep the camaro but make a new platform for both.. call 'em 5th gens.. do SOMETHING to that camaro front end.. give 'em a better spoiler.. something like they used to have.. and have the body bulkier...
make the firebird smaller and closer to something like a supra or something of the sorts (not saying jap crap.. just.. make a mid way point from cavalier to camaro kinda thing.. and pointiac).. and keep it RWD, of course.. stick the GNX motors in there.. gotta get that motor into the 2000's in some factory kinda way.. may be a bit jap crapish.. being a non V8 and not N/A.. but.. some amerian company has gotta do something to kill off some of those civics.. front engine, rwd, 3.8L turbo.. something a bit bigger then a Fiero.. and.. better constructed..
GM has to get off their cloud and do something.

 

I like Firebird's too, Camaro's more. Although, I'd like to see what Pontiac has in mind for their competitor instead of a Camaro with a different personality. I don't know how it would be without it though. I'm sure if whatever they tried didn't work, it wouldn't be tough to bring back the Firebird if a new Camaro was a success.

 

i'm inclined to say that unless gm cuts this 30k bull$hit for a car, kill the f-body. it's overpriced cars like that that make me not want to do what blue did and buy a new camaro like he did in 1986. i'm 19 years old, can barely afford the thirdgen i have now, let alone the 30k for a new car. the camaro and the vette are so close in performance that it isn't worth 30k, as the camaro almost is a vette.

 

Yeah, the prices are too much. These cars are supposed to be affordable performance.

 

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