Just a Random Observation...
Just a Random Observation...
A few years after I got my 83 Camaro I noticed that the left and rear fender flares have different radii as they transition to the quarter panel. The left radius is noticeably more gentle than the right. I was side swiped on the left when the car was only a year old and I originally thought the bodywork was the reason. I am now working on an 84 and it's the same as mine.
Anybody have this situation on their cars besides 83 and 84? I bet it was the same on 82's as well. Since I believe that all third gens used the same sheet metal I wouldn't be surprised if they are all like that.
How about the Firebirds?
Anybody have this situation on their cars besides 83 and 84? I bet it was the same on 82's as well. Since I believe that all third gens used the same sheet metal I wouldn't be surprised if they are all like that.
How about the Firebirds?
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Interesting... I will check mine. The quarters on birds and camaros are different thouh. The sail panel, rear and wheel arch are al different
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Wellibedamn! I never noticed that! I looked at an 84 Firebird this evening and the difference is quite obvious. I would have thought that area would be identical but if a different stamping has to be made for the two bodies you, (Pontiac and Chevy), might as well do it the way you want as long as it mates up properly with the roof, etc. The radius I have been talking about is also a lot larger/smoother going into the flare on the Firebird.
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Can anybody else please take a quick look at their F Body's to see if the sides are different? The people at Camaro Research Group and Team Camaro would eat this stuff up. 1st Gens are one of the most researched vehicles besides the Corvette.
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My original question was side to side on all 3rd Gens. But now that I learned that Firebird quarters are a completely different stamping it looks like it's going to be more of a Camaro thing based on the responses so far.
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Now that I look at your 2nd post, showing the pics of the wheel well lips, your LHS does look different, from the RHS. But you also mentioned it was refabbed due to an accident? Maybe that's why. And once again, my 84 T/A doesn't show any differences. And I know they're both factory quarters.
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Now that I look at your 2nd post, showing the pics of the wheel well lips, your LHS does look different, from the RHS. But you also mentioned it was refabbed due to an accident? Maybe that's why. And once again, my 84 T/A doesn't show any differences. And I know they're both factory quarters.
Once I saw the 84 I am working on was identical to mine I felt confident it wasn't bad body work. So far, it looks like up to '91 based on BBCSwap's car.
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Are you saying the factory ran out of quarter panels at the plant, and went to the aftermarket? Pretty weird stuff.
(By the way, where you going with that gun in your hand ?)
(By the way, where you going with that gun in your hand ?)
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I have to look, but I think there is also a slight difference in the lip on the Firebirds front fender lip and the rear quarters lip. That could just be design / limitations they had back the though.
I recall reading somewhere here that the passenger side quarter panels were also...... ever so slightly shorter which caused issues with hatch alignment.
I think more so on Camaros though... so there would seem to be some kind of discrepancy / difference in the 2 sides design wise and the engineers were probably fighting ad not talking to each other when they designed the quarters lol
I recall reading somewhere here that the passenger side quarter panels were also...... ever so slightly shorter which caused issues with hatch alignment.
I think more so on Camaros though... so there would seem to be some kind of discrepancy / difference in the 2 sides design wise and the engineers were probably fighting ad not talking to each other when they designed the quarters lol
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