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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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Looking for a good brake kit

Baer
SSBC
Wilwood
1LE
C4
C5
or LS1


So many types so many choices, so I come to the brake gods. My question is want that best brakes I can get to fit inside stock Iroc 16" rims.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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i think the ls1 is about your choice, search for ebmiller user he has some pics of it and does alot info sharing on his.


13" baer needs 17's
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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The biggest brakes you can fit inside the stock 16" wheels are the 13" C4 HDs or the 13" kit Spohn offers. Both setups use a 13" x 1.1" rotor. Vsixtoy also made a 13" kit using Wilwood calipers and all custom stuff but that's probably more work than you're willing to put in to making a setup. My 13" C4 HDs are the same brakes as the Baer Tracks but they do fit stock Iroc and '91-92 16" alloy wheels. LS1s are 12" x 1.25" and will also fit the stock wheels. C5s will not fit. Unless you want show car looking brakes, I don't recommend Baer or SSBC as you can get the same brakes for around $500 less by going with the C4s or LS1s.


Let me know if you need any pics of brake setups, I have many, and click the link in my sig to see a few more.

HTH...

Ed
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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okay so I take it C4HD's are better than LS1's?
Also what brakes should I look for and parts do I need to convert rear drums to disc brakes?
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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It's all a matter of opinion but IMO, yes, I do prefer the HDs over the LS1s. As for the rear brakes, you can install the '89-97 "LT1" style PBRs or the '98-02 LS1 style rear brakes. For your application I recommend the '89-97 style as that's plenty of brake for you and they will be an easier install.


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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by ebmiller88
As for the rear brakes, you can install the '89-97 "LT1" style PBRs or the '98-02 LS1 style rear brakes. For your application I recommend the '89-97 style as that's plenty of brake for you and they will be an easier install.
Why do you feel LS1s are harder to install?
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 10:45 PM
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i thought they were pretty easy. drill 8 holes, a few bolts, wala. plus you get the better parking brake
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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dont buy baer unless you have money to spend, i spent 600 on my z06 brakes and their awesome . Get the z06 calipers and use the rest of the ls1 stuff. Then it looks a little better but it says vette on it .

these are 13inch brakes behind 18's .
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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Why do you feel LS1s are harder to install?
Because of the parking brake mechanism. You will have to fab up a bracket to retain the cables under the car (Dyno Don has posted pics of his bracket) and the cables will take a bit of work to attach to the calipers correctly. The LT1 brakes are a completet bolt on, no mods needed. Just swap backing plates (and modify axle flanges on drum rears) and install the brakes just like the factory intended. Plus, if you get the LS1 backing plates just a bit off, the internal drum e-brake shoes will drag and cause heating since they aren't centered right. This isn't an issue on the LT1 style.


Ed
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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Hey Ed, where should I start on a brake kit? I'm 17 so affordable is important and I cant find any posts telling me where to begin or what I need.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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Here's a link, Robert, that may provide some info on front and rear:

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=249098

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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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Thanx James, that was very informative. I don't suppose anyone here sells a good affordable kit do they?
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Robert91RS
Thanx James, that was very informative. I don't suppose anyone here sells a good affordable kit do they?

I'd try PMing ebmiller88, he might point you in the right direction
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