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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Anybody useing aluminum rear drums,I found a set at the wrecking yard that are in great shape,any pro's or con's on them?
I took a wire wheel on a drill and cleaned of the oxidation and they look very good I think I will polish them,that would look good on the car.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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I've been lookin' for a set of those. . .
in any case I came across this little bit of info a while back.

The aluminum drums are about .25 inches wider than the iron. This is thought to be for the 16" rims. Some people on the f-bod list with 16" (GTA & IROC styles only for some reason) and iron drums have spacers between them. This is needed, my iron drum with GTA rim has a little play in it. Either get spacers or aluminum drums.
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 02:02 AM
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Pro's - lighter, no rust, dissippates heat faster
Con's - discontinued, if out of spec must replace with iron or scrounge for used

I like them but I will eventually replace my drum rear with a PBR disk one.
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 08:58 AM
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i just swapped my aluminum drums for LT1 rear discs. the aluminum ones are gettin more and more scarce by the day, thats why i hung on to mine. little known fact however, i have seen a few G-bodies with aluminum drums. not sure what option got them aluminum drums. my dads MC SS didnt have them. the only G-bodies i have seen them on was cutlasses but i doubt it was limited only to them. i know the earlier MC SS's dont have them but i dont know about the later ones. I know that this is not a G-body board but does anyone know which G-bodies got aluminum drums? it might help the F-body guys that need them. was it a F41 suspension thing?(if so then all the MC SSs should have had them) did grand nationals have them?
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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Originally posted at GNTTYPE
Here is a list of cars that also use aluminum drums (this information is from a GNTTYPE post and I have not yet confirmed this
83-84 Blazer/Jimmy S/T models , 80-84 Buick LeSabre 85 RWD , 78-81 Buick Century , 78-87 Buick Regal , 81-85 Buick Riviera , 82-92 Chevy Camaro


86-89 Chev Full Size passenger cars , 78-81 Chev Malibu , 78-88 Chevy Monte Carlo , 82-84 Chevy S10/S15 , 80-85 Olds Delta 88 , 78-82 Olds Cutlass


80-81 Pont Bonneville , 83-85 Pont Bonneville , 86 Pont Parisienne , 82-92 Pont Firebird , 78-85 Pont LeMans , 78-88 GMC Sptint/El Camino
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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I ran the parts #1255496 on GMPartsBook.com and it has them listed for a buick lesabre estate wagon and they want $220 each,I will go out to the U-pull it yards and see if I can find some more of them,I found another set yesteday on a firebrid but could only get the passenger side 1 off, the drivers side had something in the center of it that was holding it up,part of the axle or brakes,I did not have a soft hammer with me to beat on it yesterday.
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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by badbob66
I ran the parts #1255496 on GMPartsBook.com and it has them listed for a buick lesabre estate wagon and they want $220 each
I did the same search at www.NewGMParts.com and the results are listed below. They were discontinued last time I searched. Nice thing to know that they are available new again.

Part Number Search Results : Mechanical Catalog
Item Number List Core Price Price
1255496 $224.20 $0.00 $168.15
Brakes - Brake components - Rear brakes - Drum
DRUM, Buick, Lesabre, Estate Wagon, 9 1/2" Brakes, Aluminum 1984 - 1985
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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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I've got some on my car. They work just like iron versions only lighter .
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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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aluminum drums

Here is a pic of the drums I have got so far from the wrecking yards.
The aluminum cleans up realy nice the dirty set I just got this weekend,I need to get a new wire wheel for the drill,My old 1 is about shot.
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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My 85 TA had these aluminum drums when I removed the brakes last fall to install LS1 disks. Did not realize they were that hard to find.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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Found these at the Pic-N-Pull locally, can't beat $13 /each.

Blasted 'em at school with Aluminum Oxide and ready for a nice high polish.

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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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I ran a set of these on my RS with 15" wheels and never had any problems with them. Seemed to work just fine and much lighter than cast iron.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:48 AM
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Mine work fine. 5 lbs apeice less too.

I was told if the brakes are really hot, not to set the parking brake cause the Al will warp when they cool.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by Justins86bird
Mine work fine. 5 lbs apeice less too.

I was told if the brakes are really hot, not to set the parking brake cause the Al will warp when they cool.
Thanks for the info Justin,I like that A-10 in you post,they rock.
Bob W
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by adambros
Found these at the Pic-N-Pull locally, can't beat $13 /each.

Blasted 'em at school with Aluminum Oxide and ready for a nice high polish.
Just wanted to show all how they turned out
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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That polish job makes them look great,I got another set at the wrecking yard 2 weeks ago,now I have 3 sets
Bob
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 03:14 AM
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Just wanted to know if these aluminum drums actually provide better stopping performance than the iron drums, other than having slightly less weight.

Thanks.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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Just wanted to know if these aluminum drums actually provide better stopping performance than the iron drums, other than having slightly less weight.

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In theory, due to aluminum dissipating heat better than iron. I doubt you'd be able to notice much unless you were road racing or scca, and then you'd probably want discs anyway.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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My thought is for these are every little part helps. Kind of like the LS1s, the combustion chamber, 1:7 rockers, less weight, composite intake, etc; all of the little things add up.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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My thought is for these are every little part helps. Kind of like the LS1s, the combustion chamber, 1:7 rockers, less weight, composite intake, etc; all of the little things add up.
You hit the nail on the head. Why NOT do the little things? Some people just don't understand why I harp on the whole vortec/fastburn heads upgrade. It's the little things that seperate the old school 350 cube engines and the new ones.
As for the aluminum drums, it's worth it if you can get them for cheap. I have them on my car and it's the only reason I haven't upgraded to disc yet. It's hard to tell the difference but it's there.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 01:10 AM
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Some people just don't understand why I harp on the whole vortec/fastburn heads upgrade.
Got a link to that? I'd like to read up on that a bit. I'm gonna need an engine for my '70 and need all the info I can get. I'm thinking ZZ4 or FB385 but all info is good info.

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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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Thanks for the info Justin,I like that A-10 in you post,they rock.

Actually thats a B-52 but its no biggie.

Nice to know that there are still those among us who appriciate the military
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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The A-10 Warthog...man these things look coooll. I never saw one in person, hard to see without windows on a submarine:
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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Got a link to that? I'd like to read up on that a bit. I'm gonna need an engine for my '70 and need all the info I can get. I'm thinking ZZ4 or FB385 but all info is good info.

Ed
No need to link, just look up on google all of the hot rod articles about them. For technical details it's all about the quenching of these chamber designs. For the same amount of airflow in, a fastburn head can make upwards of 20-40 more "free" horsepower. That's money saved when you go to the pump and you can run a "tighter" cam and converter without drastically effecting your 1/4 mile performance. This is for another thread or PM me if you really need to see more proof.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by StreetRoc85 350
Actually thats a B-52 but its no biggie.

Nice to know that there are still those among us who appriciate the military
On 3-22-05 you had an A-10 on it.
16S stinger missle gunner, I Had a few years of aircraft recognition classes
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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 03:40 AM
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Originally posted by StreetRoc85 350
Actually thats a B-52 but its no biggie.

Nice to know that there are still those among us who appriciate the military
Its a B-2 now I change the pics every so often.
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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Anyone want to sell a pair of usable aluminum drums?
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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You can buy them at autozone for about $25 bucks each.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:57 AM
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NoItsNotForSale, do you happen to know of a part number for the aluminum drums from Autozone?

I can't find anything on their website. The cheaper cast iron replacements are priced at $24 each at AZ though.

I'm calling on finding new aluminum drums as cheap as iron.

The use of aluminum drums and the demand for their replacement is simply lower in volume, so the price is going to be higher.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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Yep your right the guy at vatozone was a moron. Next to the part# it says something like "replace aluminum drums in pairs".
So he thought they were aluminum, my bad a good parts guy is hard to find around here.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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Thats ok, I got a set from badbob.
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