Ceramic?
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I'm not. I'm running hawk HPS pads on all 4 corners. but ceramics are definitely good pads. dissipate heat better, low dusting, no noise.
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Car: 09 Silverado, 89 Vette
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whats better?
whats better , ceramic or carbon metallic? ceramincs are a little cheaper. i am using them for a hi-performance daily driver. racing will be a rare thing for now...
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For street, I've usually read to stick with the carbon metallics. The ceramic pads need to get warm before they work very well, so on those cold mornings, stopping won't be any fun for the first part of your drive. With that said, I don't know if they've made any advances in the ceramic pad technology.
Another pad that some people swear by and that I'd like to try is Stillen's MetalMatrix pad.
Another pad that some people swear by and that I'd like to try is Stillen's MetalMatrix pad.
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Originally posted by 91Z28-350
Look into Akebono ProACT for ceramics.
Look into Akebono ProACT for ceramics.
I'm lucky the guy threw a set of pads in with my calipers for the $50 I paid, lol. Trending Topics
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Ain't ceramic pads also easier on the rotors??? once hot they stop better, less dust and less rotor wear???
Cause some metallic pads work well but grind the **** out of the rotors. Such a rough compound it could be used on a grinding wheel.
Cause some metallic pads work well but grind the **** out of the rotors. Such a rough compound it could be used on a grinding wheel.
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Bought ceramic pads from NAPA. Been a couple of months and haven't noticed brake dust. Stopping is good. Can't say that I've noticed any real improvement over what I had.
Think pads were in the neighborhood of $35 to $40
Think pads were in the neighborhood of $35 to $40
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Pad selection is a nightmare. Everyone sells 3 brands of each kind with similar prices. Though most people opt for life time warranty pads in their price range.
example below.
I do wonder about them Z rated pads at the bottom.
Z rated is 165+ MPH. I run Z rated tires to exceed my speed limits. I wonder about pads???
Do they all have speed or rating limits like cars???
Are even $30-$40 pads gonna stop a car doing 130-140???
DURALAST
NON-ASBESTOS ORGANIC D154 LLT $13.49
*** CONSISTENT AND EFFECTIVE BRAKING WITH SHIMS
INCLUDED WHERE APPLICABLE ***
DURALAST
SEMI-METALLIC MKD154 LLT $19.99
*** CONSISTENT AND EFFECTIVE BRAKING WITH SHIMS
INCLUDED WHERE APPLICABLE ***
PFC_CARBON-METALLIC 1544 2 YR $36.99
SUPERIOR STOPPING PERFORMANCE.
MORSE-CERAMIC 154C 2 YR $38.99
*** CERAMIC FRICTION FOR QUIETER PERFORMANCE,
VIRTUALLY DUST - FREE BRAKING ***
DURALAST-GOLD DG154 LLT $30.99
DESIGNED FOR MAXIMUM DURABILITY AND STOPPING POWER.
VALUCRAFT
SEMI-METALLIC MKD154V 1 YR $9.99
SMOOTH, QUIET STOPPING.
PFC_CARBON-METALIC 0154-20 2 YR $42.99
IT IS QUIETER, STOPS QUICKER AND
LASTS LONGER THAN ANY OTHER PAD
VALUCRAFT
NON-ASBESTOS ORGANIC D154V 1 YR $8.99
SMOOTH, QUIET STOPPING.
PFC-Z-RATED 154Z 2 YR $49.99
example below.
I do wonder about them Z rated pads at the bottom.
Z rated is 165+ MPH. I run Z rated tires to exceed my speed limits. I wonder about pads???
Do they all have speed or rating limits like cars???
Are even $30-$40 pads gonna stop a car doing 130-140???
DURALAST
NON-ASBESTOS ORGANIC D154 LLT $13.49
*** CONSISTENT AND EFFECTIVE BRAKING WITH SHIMS
INCLUDED WHERE APPLICABLE ***
DURALAST
SEMI-METALLIC MKD154 LLT $19.99
*** CONSISTENT AND EFFECTIVE BRAKING WITH SHIMS
INCLUDED WHERE APPLICABLE ***
PFC_CARBON-METALLIC 1544 2 YR $36.99
SUPERIOR STOPPING PERFORMANCE.
MORSE-CERAMIC 154C 2 YR $38.99
*** CERAMIC FRICTION FOR QUIETER PERFORMANCE,
VIRTUALLY DUST - FREE BRAKING ***
DURALAST-GOLD DG154 LLT $30.99
DESIGNED FOR MAXIMUM DURABILITY AND STOPPING POWER.
VALUCRAFT
SEMI-METALLIC MKD154V 1 YR $9.99
SMOOTH, QUIET STOPPING.
PFC_CARBON-METALIC 0154-20 2 YR $42.99
IT IS QUIETER, STOPS QUICKER AND
LASTS LONGER THAN ANY OTHER PAD
VALUCRAFT
NON-ASBESTOS ORGANIC D154V 1 YR $8.99
SMOOTH, QUIET STOPPING.
PFC-Z-RATED 154Z 2 YR $49.99
Originally posted by Gumby
Are even $30-$40 pads gonna stop a car doing 130-140???
Are even $30-$40 pads gonna stop a car doing 130-140???
Picking pads and rotors is the easiest thing you can do for a commuter car. Just stick with Raybestos or Bendix if you are unsure. I personally prefer Bendix. There's no need for all these fancy pads, you'd know if you need them. And since you don't know, you don't need them.
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I'm not hot lappin................
But I have been known to burry the speedo, on the wrong side of a dark country road. I may need to stop in a hurry some time.
But I have been known to burry the speedo, on the wrong side of a dark country road. I may need to stop in a hurry some time.
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Originally posted by Gumby
PFC_CARBON-METALLIC 1544 2 YR $36.99
SUPERIOR STOPPING PERFORMANCE.
PFC-Z-RATED 154Z 2 YR $49.99
PFC_CARBON-METALLIC 1544 2 YR $36.99
SUPERIOR STOPPING PERFORMANCE.
PFC-Z-RATED 154Z 2 YR $49.99
The guy at the parts store told me the Z-rated ones just eat the hell out of the rotors.
My next pad change will probably be Stillen MetalMatrix pads at all 4 corners. Dean seems to love those pads, so I figure I'll try them out.
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We'll see.....
I just put on some $35 ceramics on the front of my 91. I will be interested to see if they are any better than the $20 pads I had on before.
The last pair of pads I put on didn't have much dust at all, but they weren't ceramics.
The last pair of pads I put on didn't have much dust at all, but they weren't ceramics. Supreme Member
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Originally posted by DuronClocker
The guy at the parts store told me the Z-rated ones just eat the hell out of the rotors.
The guy at the parts store told me the Z-rated ones just eat the hell out of the rotors.
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I put Ceramics on the front of my car but they were $99!!!!!!! I hope they last longer than the cheap pads. $35 pads last 6K and come off in pieces..... $70 pads last 12K before being totally worn out. Unfortunately I still have 10.5" front / 11" rear rotors.... They seem to fade just as fast if not faster than the semi-metallics.....
What's bad is I got 25-27K miles out of a set of $30 Asbestos pads....... I hope these stinking Ceramic pads last longe enough for me to upgrade to a larger brake!!!!!
What's bad is I got 25-27K miles out of a set of $30 Asbestos pads....... I hope these stinking Ceramic pads last longe enough for me to upgrade to a larger brake!!!!!
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