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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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Car: 1991 CAMARO 1968 FIREBIRD
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Do i need new rotors

Currently i have slotted rotors about 3 years old. The other night i was driving through the canyon and when i got to the bottom and hit the brake the car would pull hard to the right it did it for about 20 mins after reaching the bottom of the hill now it stops straight i am replaceing my pads this weekend because they are due for a change but i was wondeing if it sounds like i need new rotors or if they were just pulling to the right because of the heat.

Also can i use bearing greese for my guide pins AZ does not have the lube i need for them.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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Measure your rotors, and see if they are within spec. (and will remain so after turning them for the new pads....)

Bleed your brakes, replace ALL the old fluid.

Inspect brake lines, and all other hardware while you are in there.

Wheel bearing grease should be fine on the guide pins, just dont use too much. (a thin coat should be adequate)
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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Car: 1991 CAMARO 1968 FIREBIRD
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Transmission: CAMARO 700R4 FIREBIRD TH-400
Everything is fairly new i replaced it about 3 years ago. I do plan on bleeding the brakes and i have new guidepins.

There are no places by me that turn rotors and the places that do are a deaceant drive away so i was thinking of just buying a new set if i truely needed them. I did try a hard stop tonight and it stoped straight. I jsut hate to take the rotors off let alone replace them im very tight on funds right now.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:29 PM
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You *really* should turn the rotors. Any place that does brakes around you should be able to do them up for ya. Maybe have a buddy drive you to wear you need to be, or borrow someones car?

Buying a new set would give you these for a backup, although, I understand the tight funds thing........
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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Car: 1991 CAMARO 1968 FIREBIRD
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I saw a set on ebay 100 plus shippig cross drilled and slotted. Last time i called around and actualy had my rotors turned it cost me 50.00 for both rotors. I hate decisions.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:38 PM
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50 bucks???? Holy sheep dip batman. We do it at our shop for 15 bucks for both.... Hhhhhmmmmm, maybe we should charge more for that?
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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Car: 1991 CAMARO 1968 FIREBIRD
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Ya you should if it ran 15 bucks for both i would do it in a heartbeat. also can you cut slotted rotors?
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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Also i notice when i do allot of brakeing and my brakes get hot i get a vibrating feeling in the peddle i forgot to mention that but when they cool off they seem fine.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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Car: 1991 CAMARO 1968 FIREBIRD
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I found my rotors on ebay same guy i got them from a few years back for 60 plus shipping now whats the difference between slotted and slotted and cross drilled the slotted ones are 20.00 cheaper then the cross drilled ones. My car is a daily driver but i do go up in the hills sometimes and have some fun. The pads i got are a carbon metalic pad.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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Slots and holes drilled thru the rotors serve essentially the same purpose. To vent gases from the brake pad as the pad heats. With the new compounds they are using for brake pads these days, I personally question if they are actually of any benefit, other than looking kinda cool........

Your rotors warping a little when they get hot is no really big surprise. The only real way to avoid this is to go with a larger brake setup. (numerous threads on this particular topic, with MANY options......)

For the price difference you are looking at, might as well get new ones...... (although, around here, I generally cut the new rotors before installation as well, only .001 per side, but, I prefer to do this to assure the correct surface, and no warpage. I don't want to do these jobs twice......)
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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you guys sure that the caipler piston is not sticking?
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 12:01 AM
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Both pads look like even wear.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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Wheel bearing grease should be fine on the guide pins, just dont use too much. (a thin coat should be adequate)
DO NOT use wheel bearing grease! It will burn off in no time and if you get it on the pads they will need replacement. Look in the parts store for weather-strip dressing gels, they are the same thing as caliper lube.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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ARG i allready did it with wheel bearing greese i used synthetic greese will that make a difference?
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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ARG i allready did it with wheel bearing greese i used synthetic greese will that make a difference?
It's probably burned-off if you've driven it much and synthetic greases don't have a higher burn point. Their lubrication only remain more stable in at various, not higher temps.
You may have some residue remaining on the hardware, just wipe it off. Clean-up your slides, pins, and o-rings and put in some proper lube.
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