brake question
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brake question
ok i know this sounds stupid but i am swapping from a drum rear to a disk rear and i heard that unless i changes the prop valve my brakes will be weak, however i have also heard that the drums use more pressure. so wouldnt not switching actually make the brakes really touchy?
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From: Lawrence, KS
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: brake question
Some members report that their brakes function fine without the proportioning valve swap. Still, I'd suggest changing for the best results.
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Re: brake question
Drum brakes use pressure, and disk brakes use volume. (or vice versa, I can't remeber right this second) So, if you don't change the prop valve, the rear brakes will work. But unless you change to a disk prop valve, the swap to disk will not increase the brake performance. So ya, might as well change the prop valve while you have the brake system open. Plus, it's easy to do.
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Re: brake question
ok i know this sounds stupid but i am swapping from a drum rear to a disk rear and i heard that unless i changes the prop valve my brakes will be weak, however i have also heard that the drums use more pressure. so wouldnt not switching actually make the brakes really touchy?
i tried doing a search but the search feature is all messed up
thanks
i tried doing a search but the search feature is all messed up
thanks
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 19,282
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From: Lawrence, KS
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: brake question
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: Naples, FL
Car: 91 RS Camaro, 75 L82 Corvette
Engine: LO3, 383 Stroker
Transmission: 700R4, TH400
Axle/Gears: 4th gen 3.23 posi/LS1 discs, stock
Re: brake question
I changed from rear drums to a PBR set-up from a GTA 3 or 4 years back. I had the same questions at that time and decided to see what wousd happen if I didn't change the prop valve. The brakes seem to work fine no leaks, pedal seems firm, over-all braking feels good. Under hard braking front and rear rotors heat up pretty evenly. Been driving 3 to 4K a year since with no problems.
If you gonna do a job, why not do it right. And do it while you have the brake system opened.
Seems to me, the whole reason to upgrade to discs is for the better performance. Which your not getting the FULL performance of the disc brakes unless you put the correct prop valve in.
James, my buddy did keep the drum prop valve on for at least a year or so on his 91 RS with 1LE rear disks. Then he installed the disk prop valve (which he had the whole time, just never installed in), he immediately noticed the difference. Hense the reason, when I swapped in rear discs, I did the disc prop valve at the same time.
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Re: brake question
kris you make a good point. i went ahead and bought one the other day. seems stupid to spend all this time traking down a disk rear just to half *** the instalation
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Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: brake question
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Re: brake question
OK you convinced me. As soon as the salt is off the roads and the car comes out of storage a correct prop. valve is going in. Do you recommend GM or are the parts store ones just as good?
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