9bolt + PBR brake swap help
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9bolt + PBR brake swap help
Hey there. I have a 9bolt 4.11 rear end with the australian PBR calipers I am trying to swap into my 88 Iroc. I have the 9bolt in and everthing bolted up.
The problem is the offset on the rotors seems to be wrong. They look to be the right rotors but when I put the calipers on it seems to be pulling the rotors inward like toe in.
I bought this setup used and am using the rotors that came with the rear end. The rotors seem to be about 11.5" diameter, I was under the impression that they should be 11.86" or something like that. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Does anyone know the correct p/n for the rotors that should be on this?
I am not 100% what this rear end came off of. I think it may have been an 89 but I cant remember if it was a Camaro or Firebird...
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The problem is the offset on the rotors seems to be wrong. They look to be the right rotors but when I put the calipers on it seems to be pulling the rotors inward like toe in.
I bought this setup used and am using the rotors that came with the rear end. The rotors seem to be about 11.5" diameter, I was under the impression that they should be 11.86" or something like that. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Does anyone know the correct p/n for the rotors that should be on this?
I am not 100% what this rear end came off of. I think it may have been an 89 but I cant remember if it was a Camaro or Firebird...
Thanks
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Re: 9bolt + PBR brake swap help
The rotors seem to be about 11.5" diameter, I was under the impression that they should be 11.86" or something like that.
Does anyone know the correct p/n for the rotors that should be on this?
I am not 100% what this rear end came off of. I think it may have been an 89 but I cant remember if it was a Camaro or Firebird...
Does anyone know the correct p/n for the rotors that should be on this?
I am not 100% what this rear end came off of. I think it may have been an 89 but I cant remember if it was a Camaro or Firebird...
Check RockAuto or any other parts store. For PBR's you need the 1LE and/or performance version.
9- and 10-bolt J65 braking systems, Camaro or Firebird, use the same components--either Delco-Moraine iron calipers with 10.5" rotors (82-88) or PBR alum calipers with 11.7" rotors (89+).
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Re: 9bolt + PBR brake swap help
Thanks for the reply. So presumably I have the rotors I have on there are the 11.7" for the delco moraine system. I have a bunch of different sets of rotors on order at the moment so hopefully one of them will work.
What is the difference between the 89+ PBR's and the 1LE PBR's?
What is the difference between the 89+ PBR's and the 1LE PBR's?
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Re: 9bolt + PBR brake swap help
Are you sure the calipers are moving freely on the mounting pins?
That was one issue I had when I did the rear-axle switchover.
Good-luck,
kk
That was one issue I had when I did the rear-axle switchover.
Good-luck,
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Re: 9bolt + PBR brake swap help
Thanks for the help guys. The rotors I had were wrong and after ordering about 5 pairs of rotors finally found the correct ones. For some reason napa was the only place up here (canada) that had them. Now I just have to figure out why the brakes are so loud. Sometimes they sound like a drum singing on a brake lathe and it is LOUD...
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Re: 9bolt + PBR brake swap help
Mine were doing the same thing. If your running the old rubber lines back there chances are they are collapsed or starting to anyways causing the calipers to not fully release. I went braided stainless and my brake noise went away...either that or the car is too damn loud now for me to hear it LOL.
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I am using braided lines but they did come used with the setup I bought. But it seems to make the noise mainly just under light/normal braking. Not under hard braking.
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Re: 9bolt + PBR brake swap help
if its a very early 89 9bolt brake setup with the dust shield, its prone to making those noises.
the bracket is kinda flimsy
the bracket is kinda flimsy
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Re: 9bolt + PBR brake swap help
It does have the dust sheild. Did the later ones not come with dust sheilds? I will look into this as a possibilty.
A bit more info on the problem:
The noise is more frequent when the brakes have warmed up, mainly under light to normal braking pressure, I guess at lower speeds like when rolling up to a stop sign or coming to a stop etc and a bit of the noise when taking corners at low speed without my foot even on the brake. The noise comes from both sides, not always necessarily at the same. I think the right rear might be a bit more apparent/start hearing the noise from that side first usually.
It does seem to be a bit better now that I have gone through a tanks worth of gas since putting them on but I doubt this noise is going to go away much more than it has already.
A bit more info on the problem:
The noise is more frequent when the brakes have warmed up, mainly under light to normal braking pressure, I guess at lower speeds like when rolling up to a stop sign or coming to a stop etc and a bit of the noise when taking corners at low speed without my foot even on the brake. The noise comes from both sides, not always necessarily at the same. I think the right rear might be a bit more apparent/start hearing the noise from that side first usually.
It does seem to be a bit better now that I have gone through a tanks worth of gas since putting them on but I doubt this noise is going to go away much more than it has already.
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Re: 9bolt + PBR brake swap help
I am using new raybestos pads. I also did try bedding them as best as I could for driving on public roads + it has been wet out here the last few weeks. Also I do not have the correct proportion valve so i could definitly use some more braking power from the rears.
I will try removing the dust sheilds next time the car is in the air to see if that makes any difference. Are they just bolted on at the back/inside??
I will try removing the dust sheilds next time the car is in the air to see if that makes any difference. Are they just bolted on at the back/inside??
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Re: 9bolt + PBR brake swap help
I am using new raybestos pads. I also did try bedding them as best as I could for driving on public roads + it has been wet out here the last few weeks. Also I do not have the correct proportion valve so i could definitly use some more braking power from the rears.
I will try removing the dust sheilds next time the car is in the air to see if that makes any difference. Are they just bolted on at the back/inside??
I will try removing the dust sheilds next time the car is in the air to see if that makes any difference. Are they just bolted on at the back/inside??
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Re: 9bolt + PBR brake swap help
damn. might be getting out the grinder then...
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Re: 9bolt + PBR brake swap help
i just tossed a set of raybestos pads for just those kinda noises. went to OEM original and noise went away.
where in BC?
where in BC?
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