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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 12:13 PM
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replaced everything and front still lock

ok ive replaced everything on my car front to back and the front. but they are still so tight i cant turn the hubs by hand without a wrench between the lugs. ive yet to bleed it but i dont think thats gona do anything. are the rotors sapposed to spin freely or only a fraction of a revolution? any help will be nice thank you.
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 11:51 PM
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Re: replaced everything and front still lock

Check this out out at step 43 to make sure you put them on right. Good luck.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/brak...r-install.html
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 10:11 AM
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Re: replaced everything and front still lock

the thing is if i use a c clamp on my calipers and push the pistons back in and then spin the rotors they spin very freely its the brake pads grabbing on heavily wheni pump the brakes then not retracting
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 02:02 PM
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Re: replaced everything and front still lock

Why do you need to bleed the brakes? Did you open a brake line?
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 02:48 PM
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Re: replaced everything and front still lock

Caliper pistons not retracting properly can be caused by corrosion built up on the pistons themselves. Pop the pistons out and check for corrosion. If there is some, replace the calipers (they're still pretty cheap).
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 08:21 PM
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Re: replaced everything and front still lock

Did you clean and lube the pin bushings?
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 08:34 PM
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Re: replaced everything and front still lock

ok heres the thing i gota bleed them cuz ive replaced the master cylinder (twice within 2 weeks) replaced both front calipers and front flex lines. replaced the rear cylinders and the rear flex line . and replaced the combo block. so the pins dont need to be lubed the calipers came with new guide pins.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 08:35 PM
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Re: replaced everything and front still lock

Starting a new thread asking the same question is only a step backwards. Did you go through the checklist I gave you this morning?

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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 10:31 PM
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Re: replaced everything and front still lock

I have read on other forums that deteriorated rubber brake lines can plug up and keep the pistons from retracting. Although I have yet to ever experience this myself.

With disc brakes there's nothing to mechanically retract the piston and there's always some drag. But locked up the way you describe is not normal.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 02:29 AM
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Re: replaced everything and front still lock

Pump the brakes up and test to see if locked, if so crack open the bleeder. does the rotor move freely? no=bad caliper. yes, close the bleeder, repump and crack the line above the front hose. free now? yes=good hose and caliper. keep opening the line back to the master until you find the restriction. look for kinked or pinched metal lines.
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 12:03 AM
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Re: replaced everything and front still lock

Originally Posted by 84Z28HO50
Pump the brakes up and test to see if locked, if so crack open the bleeder. does the rotor move freely? no=bad caliper. yes, close the bleeder, repump and crack the line above the front hose. free now? yes=good hose and caliper. keep opening the line back to the master until you find the restriction. look for kinked or pinched metal lines.
that is actually very smart. good tinking there. i'll have to remember that if i ever have this brake issue on any vehicle in the future
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 11:51 AM
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Re: replaced everything and front still lock

i got it working once i bled it it all worked out fine now i just gota get her insured inspected and tagged
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