83Firebird420

my deck...

83Firebird420

6x9s....

83Firebird420

i have 3 pics of my amp...i know it wont power my sub but could it power my 6x9s?

83Firebird420

heres a trippy one of my amp

83Firebird420

amp egen hard to see whats on it

83Firebird420

top of my sub, not the actual box ill be using, ill be making a good one once i can get it in the trunk and not interfeer(sp?) with the t-tops

83Firebird420

bottom of sub...the box is like 2.5 feet square and made out of diferent width plywood...it was like that when i bought it

83Firebird420

heres the 6x9s in boxes but ill be taking them outa the boxes and puting them in the sail panels once i get the car on the road

joezero

Which one is it? I vote for the honda one!

83Firebird420

haha that was funny, its the one on top, its a kenwood 40x4 i think...basic and does the job for now. the hhonda one came in the car with no speakers or anything, just the front stock ones. the panisonic one under it is my buddies his whole system is at my house its **** pyramid stuff except the deck

FyreLance

I sure wouldn't want a mono-block powering my mids.

83Firebird420

so i shouldent use that amp at all?

joezero

not unless you use it to power your subs. It's a mono amp so it wouldn't produce seperate left and right channels needed for the 6 x 9s.

transam305

nice looking but lets see it all installed i wanna see this...

83Firebird420

it wont be installed for a wile...my cars not really running right now so once i get it running ill put it all in

MdFormula350

not bad looking!

83Firebird420

thanks mdformula350


im bored so i thought i might was well tell u what i paid for it all, the deck and the 2 front speakers were 60$ (front spaekers are pyramid's and are 4" diameter), the sub came with the cheap amp and box for 160$ and the 2 6x9's with the boxes was 100$, so it was a fairly cheap and good system.

89' RS/blue

You shouldn't have to use a amp to power your 6x9s anyways, unless u have a really ****ty deck. If you've got aftermarket speakers in front and back it should sound fine. Only use the amp if ur going to hook up some subs. Put the 6x9s in the sail panels, right now they look like wannabe subs. Also u should make a new box for your sub, the box sucks if its made of plywood, use something good like MDF.

83Firebird420

im gonna put them back in but the screws used to hold them ontot the boxes are like 3.5" long and take like 5 mins to unscrew eachone. i was also told they would sound better in the boxes but i didnt knotice a difference at all. and yes i do plan on using mdf to build my box, although the sub sounds alright in that box...

napalmdemos

is your sub in ply wood? if so why?

83Firebird420

cuz the guy who owned it b4 me had a crack head build a box for it.

napalmdemos

oic i was just wondering. i had never seen someone use ply wood.

MaineIrocer

What is the best kind of wood to use if you are building a box??

joezero

MDF is the material of choice for most people. You can also use birch, altho that is quite a bit more expensive than MDF. If you're trying to do things as cheaply as humanly possible, some people have had moderate success with 3/4" particle board. What's nice about MDF is that it is really smooth and bonds well with body filler. So it's the best route if you're planning on doing any fiberglass work or if you want to get the surface of your enclosure super smooth. I like it for that reason in particular because I tend to use thinner fabrics as opposed to the standard box carpet.

jesse23

that setup looks SUPER ghetto to me lol

sorry but its true

MaineIrocer

How hard is it to create a box if you have never done it before?? And where can i get directions to build one?

joezero

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=164381

MaineIrocer

Thanks JoeZero you have been a big help.... :lala:

MaineIrocer

JoeZero that is a sweet box how much did that cost you to build? Where you from?

joezero

Thanks. Someone else had asked how much it was and I tried to figure it out, cause I didn't really keep track of how much I spent. There's probably not more than $60 worth of materials there. There was one seam tho for the section with the 6x9s that I forgot to caulk and when I fired the stereo up it blew all the filler out of the seam.

I'm from California, I live just south of Sacramento, the greatest city in the world.

MaineIrocer

I am from Maine......I love how the amp hits in the box how hard would it be for me to build one minus the 6x9s?

joezero

Recessing an amp isn't difficult at all so long as you have the right tools. Basically you trace the outline of the amp on the whatever surface you want to mount it to. Then drill a pilot hole and cut it out. Then you attach another peice of MDF (about 1" bigger than the amp on each side) to the back. You don't need to screw it, just use a lot of glue. Then caulk around it from the inside just like you did for the rest of the enclosure. If you want it deeper than 3/4" then just glue on another piece of MDF and then cut it out just like the top. You can keep doing this to make spacers. When I do multiple layers, I like to sand it all nice smooth before I put the back on. Hopefully this pic will help a little.

MaineIrocer

Thanks that does help.... I am not planning on building a box until sometime in June once the rest of my car is all set and ready to go....so you might here more from me down the road...

MaineIrocer

Do the 6x9s that you built into you box? Do they do anything extra or are the just for looks??

joezero

Um, it makes it louder In terms of sound quality, not really. And if you follow the traditional ideology of creating a soundstage, well, those 6x9s are pretty much guaranteed to destroy it. Maybe it's just me, but the only time I'm really concerned about the sound being in perspective is at the movies and national geographic specials. They say that when you go to a concert that the sound comes from in front of you. I don't know what concerts they're going to (yanni, maybe?) but all the ones I've gone to it's so loud that the music may as well be coming from inside your skull. That's kind of the approach I take to car audio. To me it seems silly to try and make a "perfect" recreation of the music. Let us not forget that while listening to these "perfect" stereos we're still in a damn car. My stereo serves one purpose, to provide a soundtrack for putting the pedal to the metal.

But I really do like the way it looks. It lights up at night and you can see it through the back window. If you have any questions down the line, don't hesitate to email me (cause I never remember to check my PMs on here). Good luck!

83Firebird420

so is the rest of my car haha

joezero

I completely forgot that I had put together a website about building the enclosure. It's got a lot of construction pics on there, hope they help. www.geocities.com/jcargile2001/stereo.html