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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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single 10 recommendations

i recently bought an inhuman 10 and im now starting to re-think that and the guy i bought it from said he might want it back aswell.


im looking for a single 10 that will be in a 10+ cubic foot wall with a huge port and about 5000 watts. This will be in a daily driver but optimized for comps.

any suggestions?

treo csx
inhuman
RE xxx
DD 9510
Juggernaut 10 (if they make one)

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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 07:19 AM
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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10 cubic feet and a huge port... what frequency are you tuning to? If SPL is your goal, it seems that your box choice is a bit peculiar.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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10 cubic feet and a huge port... what frequency are you tuning to? If SPL is your goal, it seems that your box choice is a bit peculiar.
ill be tuning to the resonant frequency of the car...which should be something like 62 hz. Ill have a wall with only one 10 in it, so i have a whole lot of room for port if i need to use it.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 08:13 AM
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If you're tuning to 62hz, why such a big box? You should easily be able to tune to 62hz with a much smaller box, and with the smaller box you can probably pull the sub's resonant frequency up near 62hz too.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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If you're tuning to 62hz, why such a big box? You should easily be able to tune to 62hz with a much smaller box, and with the smaller box you can probably pull the sub's resonant frequency up near 62hz too.
most of these SPL subs respond better with more airspace.

ive been asking around and if i go with the treo csx ill have to throw a lot more wattage at it. One guy claimed that the sub barely responded at all with anything less than 3kw in a 8.8 cf box and some of his friends have fed as much as 24kw to one csx 15
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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apparently there were only 3 csx 10s made last year that had the stiff suspension so im thinkin they could be hard to get
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:57 PM
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The dayton titanic mark II's will put out about 115 dbs in a 2cubic foot sealed box with 50% fill with a Q alignment of .69 running at 490 watts rms and not exceed xmaxx, hard to beat for 119.87 on sale, or 149.80 regular price, with a 5yr warranty. 2" voice coil, 4 ohms, 22-500 hz freq. response, spl 91.3 db at 2.83v/1m, fs of 22.2 Hz, 18MM excursion, good stuff. OH yeah and a 108 oz magnet.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 12:16 AM
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The dayton titanic mark II's will put out about 115 dbs in a 2cubic foot sealed box with 50% fill with a Q alignment of .69 running at 490 watts rms and not exceed xmaxx, hard to beat for 119.87 on sale, or 149.80 regular price, with a 5yr warranty. 2" voice coil, 4 ohms, 22-500 hz freq. response, spl 91.3 db at 2.83v/1m, fs of 22.2 Hz, 18MM excursion, good stuff. OH yeah and a 108 oz magnet.
im not worried too much about price in this next install...but dayton doesnt make anything close to resembling an SPL sub

RE is coming out with a new 24inch sub that is supposed to outdisplace 12 xxx15s. The xxx is their best model sub and its insane to begin with. The 24 is pricey though
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 02:16 AM
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Dayton subs are used in compeition and are valuable in spl drag racing, fairly few people use them, cause they are afraid of them being cheap, thats not the case. I'm still waiting for that picture with 40 alternators on a car boomin boy, show me!
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 02:49 AM
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if you look at the specs of your dayton subs you will see that its not even close to resembling an SPL sub....i owned an adire tempest, which is what the dayton titanics design is based on and it sure isnt an SPL sub. Good for street beating but didnt light up the meter all that much.

as for the pic of the 40 alts...i supplied you with a pic of 16 300 amps alts if that doesnt get the idea through to you that having a good alternator is better than any capacitor then show me a pic of anyone who has ever been successful in competition that uses multiple caps to "help their electrical system." You sound like a salesman and i dont like that
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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ha I sound like a sales man, I never deal with salesman, I also hate them, as for liking me, thats up to you, you don't have to like me, just respect me. I like dayton subs because they pound harder than anything else that I generally hear. I like Jls and orions, but there way too expensive, and there warranty isn't as good, which tells me something about there quality, and durability. And as for mtx I have a friend thats blown 3 pairs of mtx 8000 twelves, and he wasn't overdriving them when they blew. My guess is they have a poor voice coil construction, get hot, and without enough xmaxx, they operate on there extremes. About the 40 alternators, when you make a claim like running 40 alternators instead of 40 caps, you better be able to back it up, wheres the pic of 16 you said you put on here, I don't see it.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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Sorry buddy but the dayton sub has been the poor guys street thumper for awhile now. Go put your dayton up against a brahma and you'll see what a REAL spl sub is like.PS . If you stay here long enough you'll see you get alot of respect from the information you give being correct. And so far your not fairing too well in that .
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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oh darn guys, I was really looking forward to your respect. I'm not going to spend 400$ on a woofer, I'll put it into my motor first. Find a woofer for 150$ or less that will put out more spl than a dayton, with a 5 yr warranty, then come back to me. Also the new titanic mark III 15 800 watts rms, check it out.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshow...=295-420&DID=7
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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I dont care what the price is. This isnt a dayton thread, he's looking for a single 10" spl sub and dayton is a joke in that aspect. Its not a spl sub period. Not matter how much it costs.btw most $400 subs are $400 for a reason. Compairing your dayton to a spl sub to any of the subs boomin listed is like compairing headphones to a live band.You'll never get anyplace spl wise, with that sub.
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I'll make sure I see what my systems put on in spl, with a goldwood meter, I'll get back to you.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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i have personally never had experience with any of them, however, i have heard great reviews from some trusted people about the DD stuff.


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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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I'll make sure I see what my systems put on in spl, with a goldwood meter, I'll get back to you.
Really doesn t matter anyway, ive seen your bs numbers on your other post.If you think you can compete with these spl woffers with your $100 speacial, you need to lay off the pipe.

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stop whining, what each and every one of us choose to run, is for our reasons, I don't intend on competing with my car in spl competitions, but it will sound sweet, and pound hard as hell.

Regardless of what you say or others say about it, I have alot of friends that come to me, because they have seen, heard and can vouch for what I do. When other people tell you "your system sounds amazing, its like I'm in a live concert", thats when you can talk, and I'm sorry if you don't believe I have friends and people that aren't morons, that come and tell me this. And when people hear the mids, highs, and lows equally loud, and clear, with no distortion, a block away, with the windows closed, thats when you have something to say, and thats what I have out of my 84 cavalier. These people also want me to do installs in there cars, I don't BS people, or do polish ghetto stereos, what I do comes out nice, neat and clean, and the sound can vouch for itself. My stereos may not be for spl competitions, but I didn't intend on it to be. They are rather stereos, that sound great and pound, all around, with a great "soundstage" as you would call it.

I'm done now, if some of you still don't understand this, you never will. And you may have cars that put out x-amount of dbs from the stereo, well my exhaust on my firebird will be loud enough to tear your stereo a new one, try over 500 horses through long tubes, and custom 3" exhaust with bullet mufflers and 10.5:1 compression.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 04:29 PM
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I'm done now, if some of you still don't understand this, you never will. And you may have cars that put out x-amount of dbs from the stereo, well my exhaust on my firebird will be loud enough to tear your stereo a new one, try over 500 horses through long tubes, and custom 3" exhaust with bullet mufflers and 10.5:1 compression.______ Sure dude, just like your uncles car has a great sound stage with 4 6x9's in the rear and 2 12's in the trunk and legacy amps and no front speakers at all, and im sure your cavi sounds great with radio shack equipment , Your a poser man get over it. As far as your friends coming to you saying your system sounds great, A fart would sound good to a deaf person! and sis you ever notice how stupid people travel in packs? I've personaly heard a brahma sub(12) and a re sub(15) and i along with anyone on here who has heard them can tell you , your cheap dayton can not compair. Doing that would be like saying Legacy amps are better than rf and orion, oh wait, some moron already tried to say that POST YOUR ENGINE mods! another bull**** claim!

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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 04:31 PM
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dude, you are a numb nuts, we are talking stereos here.

that is like me saying yeah, umm, your stereo can be loud but i have a jet that is louder, it doesnt even make sense to compare.


congratulations for having 500 horsepower, they have forums that might suit you more, instead of running your mouth about stuff that you dont know.


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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by cronsformula350
stop whining, what each and every one of us choose to run, is for our reasons, I don't intend on competing with my car in spl competitions, but it will sound sweet, and pound hard as hell.

Regardless of what you say or others say about it, I have alot of friends that come to me, because they have seen, heard and can vouch for what I do. When other people tell you "your system sounds amazing, its like I'm in a live concert", thats when you can talk, and I'm sorry if you don't believe I have friends and people that aren't morons, that come and tell me this. And when people hear the mids, highs, and lows equally loud, and clear, with no distortion, a block away, with the windows closed, thats when you have something to say, and thats what I have out of my 84 cavalier. These people also want me to do installs in there cars, I don't BS people, or do polish ghetto stereos, what I do comes out nice, neat and clean, and the sound can vouch for itself. My stereos may not be for spl competitions, but I didn't intend on it to be. They are rather stereos, that sound great and pound, all around, with a great "soundstage" as you would call it.

I'm done now, if some of you still don't understand this, you never will. And you may have cars that put out x-amount of dbs from the stereo, well my exhaust on my firebird will be loud enough to tear your stereo a new one, try over 500 horses through long tubes, and custom 3" exhaust with bullet mufflers and 10.5:1 compression.
#1 just because someone has an SPL vehicle doesnt mean it doesnt have any SQ. some people also take pride in having a good soundstage, some people take a lot more pride in that than you obviously
#2 you make it sound like a good thing that your stereo can be heard from a block away. Thats how you annoy people, and get your equipment stolen. You have to boom responsibily just like the races out there have to stop street racing cause you give us all a bad rep.
#3 get your 500 hp exhaust metered...you'll be surprised what numbers you come up with...i would doubt you'll be over 135 which would make my stereo 4 times as loud when its done
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too bad the smallest soloX they make is a 12". those things are awsoem.
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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too bad the smallest soloX they make is a 12". those things are awsoem.
ya they are...a little pricey though from what ive seen. The new RE sub is supposed to just demolish anything out there. Something like a 6 inch xmax on a 24inch woofer
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i'm not here to step on anyone's feet or to start any more fights, but the daytons are pretty decent subs. not saying they are big boy subs, but they'd take a type-r (what i got) and shiva and hold its own. similar to how a shiva holds its own to the w7. it is a good sub, but meant more for SQL than SPL.
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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didnt say they are crap but they are not a spl sub.
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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i'm not here to step on anyone's feet or to start any more fights, but the daytons are pretty decent subs. not saying they are big boy subs, but they'd take a type-r (what i got) and shiva and hold its own. similar to how a shiva holds its own to the w7. it is a good sub, but meant more for SQL than SPL.
datyon titanics are essentially the same sub as an adire tempest (big brother of the shiva) so yes they're decent subs. but they're suspension is far too loose to handle major power.

as for the shiva holding its own to the W7 i dunnoo.......the w7 would sound better in everyway but i think the shiva is a better deal. To me the W7 is more hype than anything, its a great sub but there are many great subs out there
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 10:45 PM
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the RE seXXX my boy from another forum was hittin 151 at the dash with 2 of them SLAP last season i believe. he might still have them for sale
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 11:05 PM
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the RE seXXX my boy from another forum was hittin 151 at the dash with 2 of them SLAP last season i believe. he might still have them for sale
the SE and the XXX are different models

i have two HCs right now (inbetween model)
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the seXXX is another model as well. email RE for spcifications nd differences. Im not exactly sure whats different about them.
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What are these seXXX you speak of.
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 01:52 AM
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What are these seXXX you speak of.
http://www.bladeice.com/img_files/prod/XXX10_back.jpg
this is a xxx10..i havnet looked into the SExxxs yet but im sure they're close to the same


http://respl.com/flash_index.html
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oops, my mistake. meant to say the brahma would hold its own against a w7. wrote that last post a bit too quick....
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 02:31 AM
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the seXXX is another model as well. email RE for spcifications nd differences. Im not exactly sure whats different about them.
i looked into it and the seXXX is just an SE line sub with some XXX parts on it to increase its capabilities...the xxx is still a better sub all around
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i have always had great luck using eclipse 8810 series subs. the polished aluminum cone. i haven't blew one yet and right now i have one 10" in a 2-cube box riding around 750watts(running kicker vr1000 amp on it) smooth, clean, and loud. just my 2 cents. the 10's are about $300-$450 each. good luck

look at the site for them, do you guys like them?
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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here is the site.....http://www.eclipse-web.com/
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 07:04 AM
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i have always had great luck using eclipse 8810 series subs. the polished aluminum cone. i haven't blew one yet and right now i have one 10" in a 2-cube box riding around 750watts(running kicker vr1000 amp on it) smooth, clean, and loud. just my 2 cents. the 10's are about $300-$450 each. good luck

look at the site for them, do you guys like them?
ya i had two eclipse aluminum 12s for a while they're great all around subs...and they look just killer. I almost got a single titanium 18 last month but somebody bought it before i could get a chance.

they arent meant for all out SPL applications though, but good suggestion
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i can make any of you guys GOOD deals on eclipse products.



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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by onebadwagon
i can make any of you guys GOOD deals on eclipse products.



adam
how much can you get a titanium 18 for?
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