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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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kickpanels, did I get screwed?

So I bought a set of q-form kickpanels from a member on this site loaded with 'new' four year old mids and tweets already installed.. thats fine, I took that chance. Appently none of this stuff was used before.

However when I went to install them into my car I found a problem. As you can see in the image the stock kick panel wraps around making a complete "U" shape to hug over the metal lip where they get installed. The q-form ones do not do that.. therefore there is nothing to hold them in the vehicle

Are all the q-forms like this.. or did I get a demo/hacked/wrong application pair?

So.. anyone want to buy some 'new' never installed q-form kickpanels and speakers? lol!
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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There’s no picture so I can't comment for sure. This is what it should look like (picture stolen from another user, found it by searching but I'm hosting it now so it's all good )



There's that ghetto box thing that you run a screw through on the end. That's one of the complaints about them (poor design) other than bad color matching, cheap construction, hard to fit certain speakers, etc.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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Holy crud, those things stick out far! Where would I put my left foot?

Now I really see how much different Jim's are...
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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ooops.. I forgot to attach the image lol!

but now I see where I've got my problem.. "that ghetto box thing that you run a screw through on the end" is what I'm missing!

Where are you JIM85IROC.. I need you!!! lol. PM me when your all settled in, I need a set made B-A-D!
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 12:18 AM
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ooops.. I forgot to attach the image lol!

but now I see where I've got my problem.. "that ghetto box thing that you run a screw through on the end" is what I'm missing!

Where are you JIM85IROC.. I need you!!! lol. PM me when your all settled in, I need a set made B-A-D!
A better head on shot would be nice, especially if you can compare the two lying flat next to each other. Is it possible to install the kicks under the step plates and have them healed in that way?

Jim’s moving? I guess that explains why I haven’t seen much of him lately.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 07:19 AM
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Nah, you haven't seen much of me lately because I've gotten busier at my day job, and my "night job" (selling carpet, door panels, headliners, etc) combined with too many kick panel and sub enclosure projects has kept me too busy to spend a lot of time on the board. With any luck, I'll be finished up with my last set of kicks and sub enclosure this weekend, then I can start other projects that got pushed off.

I haven't moved yet, but we did just buy a house, and we're in the process of re-negotiating our purchase because of some issues that surfaced in the home inspection. Provided everything goes well, our closing will be June 30. So... once I'm done with this round of kicks, I'm taking a hiatus until I get settled into the new place. In the meantime I'll be spending a lot of time packing and moving, so I can't take on any more kick projects until late summer or early fall. The good news is that once I get moved in, I'll have a workshop and a large garage to do these projects in, so I won't have to be at the mercy of my basement and all of the environmental conditions that effect it.

Anyway... back to the subject at hand. If you call Q-Logic, I would think they should be able to sell you the mounting widgets that you need to hold those things into the car.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 07:30 AM
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Thanks Jim, I'll try give q-logic a call. PM sent to you about headliners.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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Sounds like you're a busy man Jim. Good luck with everything! You've got a lot on your plate.

Brisk: keep us posted on what's going on.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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I've always got too much on my plate, which is why it's been nearly a year since I decided to start my custom component project, and still haven't finished it.
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bull
Holy crud, those things stick out far! Where would I put my left foot?

Now I really see how much different Jim's are...
That's why I got rid of mine and built my own BOSE look-a-like panels.
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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Justin, what size speakers do your custom panels hold? Any pics?
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Old May 3, 2006 | 01:46 AM
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Justin, what size speakers do your custom panels hold? Any pics?
6.5". Not the best pics, but the 6.5 is inset and has the grill over it to protect it from shoes, then carpeted over. The tweeter is just surface mounted and I have them aimed towards the driver.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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for q-logic. Gave them a call today and the guy is sending me out the clips xpress post free of charge! Good company to deal with.

Anyone have one of those sub boxes they make?? Post up some pics!
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Old May 9, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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i have a third gen sub box that holds 2 12's for sale. PM me and give me a price, shipping could be bad though from Los Angeles. I beleive Jim makes them for sale also.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by b's90cam
i have a third gen sub box that holds 2 12's for sale. PM me and give me a price, shipping could be bad though from Los Angeles. I beleive Jim makes them for sale also.
Jim sells his own boxes, not Q-forms. I have no direct experience with Q-logic’s boxes but they don't look bad aesthetically. I haven't seen one out of a so I can't comment on construction.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 11:49 PM
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well, mine isnt a q form either i thought he was just looking for a box.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 02:32 AM
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sorry guys.. I'm not looking to purchase a box.. just looking for ideas and pics of boxes you guys already have so I can get some ideas rolling. thanks!
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Old May 10, 2006 | 03:29 AM
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i had a q-logic sigle 12" box for a hatchback and that thing cranked
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Old May 10, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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i never bought a box i just found it easier to build my own and tune it for the type of response i wanted. but from what i've heard, Q logic make a half decent product.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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i never bought a box i just found it easier to build my own and tune it for the type of response i wanted. but from what i've heard, Q logic make a half decent product.
That they do...though I think the hole where the screw screws in to attach to the car on mine needs some redoing or something...mine don't fit too well lately (not to mention, it needs some sound deadenning stuff behind it I think...I get some buzz on occasion that goes away when I rest my foot against it)


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Old May 10, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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looks like u guys have a strip of material that goes along the edge of the kickpanel and along the seam (in the top pictures it is easy to spot, it is black) I don't have that either... grr.. so, any idea where I can get something like that?
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Old May 10, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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actually, that's just the weatherstipping...stuff that was on the car. My Q-logics aren't a very good fit to be honest...(you can't really see it from that angle but it's slightly bent out where you see the black stuff)

It's supposed to fit over that. :P
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Old May 11, 2006 | 04:18 AM
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well that weather stripping finishes it off, I definatly need to get some (mine doesn't have any in that location)
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