ok... i like music.
good music. not stuff from the ghetto that i never grew up in and dont want to here about.
Rock, quality rock like led zepelin, pink floyd and some newer stuff like rage against the machine, incubus, chilli peppers and such. i already have the speakers and head unit. Vega 4x6 in the front, JBL 6x9 in the back, and an older Sony head unit in the front. (not the best, but i'm not in to head achs from bass that drowns out the actual music, rather have head achs from my exsaust) im thinking about a smaller amp (400 watts tops) and a pair of 8"s in the back. only prob is that i have t-tops. where could i mount the amp so that i can still store my tops back there? also any sugestions on amps and subs. some thing not astronomical in price would be nice. i would rather build up my motor than the system.

 

I'm installing a single 12" JL Audio in a huge box (relatively) with 2 amps and still have room for T-tops. I should be finishing the box tonight, I'll post pics soon.

 

Well I made 2 boxes that sit on top of the self behind the rear seat and they go down to rest on the 2 "shelves" in the well. I have the amp and cross over mounted between the sub boxes on a raised plate. I have plenty of room back there in the well and the system sounds great.

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Current 3rds...92 3.1 coupe and a 91 T top 305 Past camaro's 74Z28, 2 75 camaro's bretilina and a 76 z28. Past rides HA HA too many to count, at least 20..LOL Kills to date a new one today a 98-up Grand prix..I know They usually eat us alive but I hit third hard and chirped he flashed his lights and backed off!!! a 3.1 firebird 2 stop lights in a row.
95 Grand Am
Serveral Honda's
a friends 91 Rustang LX(I know its a 4 but he keeps trin')

Planned mods:
Soon coming 3 inch exhaust, 1.6 rockers, High flow 'Verter, and Ignition system. Along with a complete turbo 4.3 swap planned later this year(hoping to get into the 10's..)
Current mods:
Set of Iroc sway bars front and rear..amazing differance, Air box bottom completely removed allowing my K&N to act like an open element filter.
Lower profile tires, 195/55/15 front 205/55/15 rear handles better.
And a 160 deg thermo for a V8(and yes it works just fine)

Sterio Sony CD head unit and 9 band EQ, Boston acutics 4x6 dash, Alpine 3 way 6x9 sail, California sounds active crossover, Kroiiler 600 watt amp powering the 'pines and Bostons, 600 watt Jensen powering 2 Rockord Fosgate RFZ1812 subs. And all this cost less then $575...

 

See sig. The tube and amp cost me $350 shipped from crutchfield with all the wiring and mounting hardware I needed plus a little dynamat. More bass than I'll ever need. I actually have the gain turned way down.

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1987 Camaro Sport Coupe LG4
700R4 with 2.73 open rear
Hypertech chip, 180* stat
L69 Dual snorkel air cleaner with K&N air filter
CK rods with B hanger
Hooker catback
Pioneer DEH-P4000, Pioneer Ts-A4615 front TS-A6995 rear
Kenwood KAC-529S driving 8" Bazooka EL804 bass tube

 

89FormulaL98 I am going to mount 2 MTX 8's on the flat area of my 91 z. I put them on there just to check the size and it was perfect so I am just going to use 2 sided velcro to hold them down. If I use enough it should hold it down. I could always strap them down if I need to.

 

Keep your vivid descriptions of what you call "good" music to yourself.

This way I'll keep my description of that Devil-worshipping, Drug Overdosing, Blow-your-brains-out **** you call good music to myself. Then maybe I would be able to give you advice on your question.


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92 Camaro RS, LO3, 5-spd, T-tops

Performance:
K&N Open Air Filter, Edelbrock performer TBI intake, Fastchip Prom, Timing +4 degrees, Centerforce clutch, Xact 8mm wires, SLP 1 3/4" Headers (coated), Flowmaster Catback Exhaust, Z28 Grille w/aftmkt fog lamps, MacEwen white-face guages
Electronics:
Alpine 8030 Alarm System, Valentine One Radar Detector (How did I ever drive without one?), Pioneer DEH 7450 Head Unit w/6-pack CD changer, Pioneer DEQ 7600 Sound Processor, 2 Kenwood KAC-846 Amps powering 2 12" Pro Red subs, 2 Pioneer 6x9 and 2 MTX 4x6 speakers.
NEXT UP: TBI mods, 3.42 gears w/Torsen posi

 

hmmmm...
rapers don't over dose on drugs? (i guess rape and killing is more exceptable)

i just like music that actually requires talent to compose and actually invokes some sort of thought.

that is MY opinion..
if you dont like it dont post a reply on my topic.

 

btw...
thanks for all the ideas!

 

My oh my...Thirdgens very own John Rocker! If I was a moderator I would do my job and remind you about the policies regarding the use of this forum. But I'm not so I'll take great pleasure in showing you just how STUPID your last post made you look:


I guess you could say RAPPERS (or RAP ARTISTS) do OD on drugs, but I don't know about these so-called RAPERS you mentioned.
And no, rape and killing is certainly not ACCEPTABLE in any environment.

That's deep....If being a rapper can get me a butt-load of money without either talent or thought invocation then myself and a whole bunch of other hard working people have been wrong all along. Then again I should have remembered VANILLA ICE! Or maybe we are all just too talented for that type of thing.


Didn't anyone ever tell you that famous saying about opinions??
No I don't like it....but the problem is that I had to SEE it in the first place you dumb-a$$ This site is for technical issues, not for expressing opinions that may be offensive to some people. Nor is it a place for ignorant individuals like yourself who are too arrogant to just simply say something like "NO OFFENSE INTENDED". You wouldn't make those comments if this was a RAPPER or GHETTO forum, and I KNOW you wouldn't say it to me in person, so what could possibly make you think you could say stuff like that here? I have my very own opinions about you and your kind, but at least I'm decent enough to keep them off this website.

I'll close this post with somewhat of a technical twist:

People who drive THIRDGENS like YOU 89FormulaL98, listen to the kind of music YOU listen to, AND have the nerve to come across like YOU just did are truly worthless in today's society. Now if YOU don't like MY opinion, then YOU don't reply.

 

well a 12" is completely unecessary for rock. and to put a JL in HUGE box is gonna kill your sub. they are small enclosure subs.
just trying to help you from destroying your sub. also if you build a box or buy one and it isnt certified from an official JL dealer, the subs warranty is VOID, because box size is critical to.1 sq foot for sub life. for rock i would go with a JL 10w6, or 2 8w6s. just my input though, sound is what you like not everyone else.

 

well...
i agree, 12"s are out of the question. i'm leaning towards one 10" now on somthing like a 300-400 watt amp. i think that would fit my needs well.

 

ok... ok maybe slightly arogant.
i should have said no offense intended. as i truly didn't mean to offend anyone. but ignorant no. i dont know how you can possibly say that some jamoke like eminem or sisco or somthing can even begin to compare to the talent of jimmy page or the beatles or some thing like that. i can say that because i am exposed to today's crappy music every day, i have heard it and i can honestly say i hate it for the most part. but can you say that you have ever listened to led zepelin? hey, its not like im talking about something like limp bizkit here (just as bad as the stuff im bithing about) i highly doubt that most rap or hip hop will be remembered 30 years from now as classic rock has been. so actually i belive that you are the ignorant one. once again, im sorry if i offended anyone, but i prefer my "devil music" that actually requires talent to compose. ok.... back to technical stuff!

 

umm.... vanilla ice sucks in both rap and rock form. and im not saying they aren't sucsessfull, but thats not saying much look at all those fabricated boy bands that are doing so well.

i want to set one thing straight.
i have not formed an opinion on you, for all i know you could be a cool guy. i was simply voicing my opinion about music nothing more. i never ment to put anyone in a tizzy.

if things keep going like this, this topic should be locked

 

Since you asked...I gotta answer.

Yes, I have listened to LED ZEP,
I've also listened to:

Jimi Hendrix
The Rolling Stones
Pink Floyd (both wasted & sober)
Aerosmith (when THEY were wasted)
and many others...

I agree that music today does not have the same appeal, but its a different generation. Did YOUR parents like the music YOU listened to when you were young?

As for talent when it comes to music, there is no such thing. Music is an art, and the success or failure of such art solely depends on the perception of those who listen to it. What makes the music era so "classic" were the events society was going through at that time. I will say that back then the message or feeling music deleivered was definitely more meaningful than what it is today.

As for rap music being remembered the way "classic rock" has been 30 years from now?...put your money where your mouth is. The video channels (especially VH-1) are going to GUARANTEE that it gets remembered.

Ignorance is the inability or refusal to at least recognize different reasoning and react appropriately. Your first post made me wonder...your second post confirmed it. Being politically correct now may have some bearing. Nothing wrong with stating opinions, but just make sure you choose your words carefully.

BTW, a 12" sub will always sound better than 2 10"s...so unless you are really pressed for space, just turn down the bass level.

 

im 19 years old. i dont think my parents had a problem with led zeppelin when they were my age.

anyways im beating a dead wale here so lets stop bickering were never gona agree about what good music is so we might as well forget it.

 

It figures...

 

89FormulaL98: Personally if I was you I'd can the idea of having sub's.

However, as regards your question of where to site the amp. If you don't want it to be on show then why not site it under either front seat. You'd have enough access to change settings and could wire it easily to run your existing speakers and/or the subs.

Good luck with your system,


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"I'm not shy.... I'm just studying my prey"

 

maybe i should just get a small amp for my speakers.

 

well, i dont see what age has to do with it. I mean lets look at it my way (hate to sound selfish!) but i listen to country, rock, rap, and even some of that 'peaches and cream' stuff (gotta get the *****es in the mood)..

now who's gonna tell me that im a queer just cuz i listen to a variety of music?.. just to suit me needs?

TECHNICAL TIME :

i know exactly what you are lookin for! i think..

are you looking for some subs to just put a sharp thump in the bass pedal of Lar's Ulrichs drums?

well definately go with one.. maybe even two tens. If you want the bass pedal to hop through your subs and hit you in the head get one 12". Big difference in frequency

by the way, im 18 if thats got anyhing to do with anything.

kev

 

get speakers that respond to bass and they will sound good even off the head unit itself, I would recomend Kenwood 6x9s or Polk db series. I have Infinity 6953 6x9s in now,they are great speakers but they don't help out on the low end at all. the best systems consist of speakers that can do the job with out subs,then have subs to make you "feel" the music. lets also put this rumor to rest about "rock music" having no bass. any kind of music can produce the same frequncies, the only way around this is an *equalizer* deck. noone will sell you a HI-FI system for your home that's "only good for classical music" that's a bunch of bs. an evenly tuned stereo should be able to reproduce any recording loud and clear.

 

well put. that is what i am looking for. a well balenced system. but with out spending an arm and a leg.

 

I would highly recomend the Alpine 7861 head unit, it is priced at $265 (maybee less now) I put this one in my sisters car and it sounds awsome!! front and rear have no amps,it's all off the head unit,the front speakers are alpine ??, the rear are polk db series,for subs she has two 12"rockfords powered by a 65x2 amp (non bridged) those sound good also. the head unit makes the system.

 

I'd like a decent system too. I listen to all forms of Rock. I want something good, but not ghetto and not 1000 dollars. WHy, cause if I put amps in my trunk you can see in my trunk, and I don't want my camaro getting jacked cuase I was stupid enough to spend 800 bucks on a stereo. All I want is in dash CD player, and some good speakers.

I think I'm gonna buy a poineer, they make a DIN and half that fits GM radios perfectly. No mounting kit needed.

Anyone know where those back speakers are?? They must be in the wall right?? I know where my front ones are but the back ones I can't see.

 

Those back speakers are mounted on the sides of the rear seats.
Sit at the back and on either sides - thats where they are - mounted behind the covering against the body of the car i think!!!
Unless u have a convertible - then i have no idea!!!
Let me know how it worked out - cause i listen to the same kind of music!!!
Thanks
Jay

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Acceleration = Adrenaline

 

recline your seat all the way back... look to your left.. and BANG. you've found the 6x9s in the rear.

kev

 

take off the fabric sail panels just unscrew the two hanger hooks or what ever you wanna call them and the panel comes right out.

 

89/98 , even though half the people here got beef 'cause you have your own opinions about rap/hip-hop......are you going to let us know how your system turns out??

 

The system that I have right now in my sig sounds great... and I listen to pretty much everything except country, rap and hiphop. That little 8" Kenwood tube fills in the low frequencies nicely without giving me a headache and doesn't take up much space at all. Its amp is built in, so there no worry about connecting it wrong or mounting it anywhere. I would probably recommend something larger than an 8 though, maybe a 10" tube or a 12" in a box, but thats already getting into overkill territory from what you're asking for. Just get a sub, any sub really and you'll be happy. My friends are actually quite surprised to find out that all I've got in back is a little 8" when they're thinking its something much bigger, thats how much bass I get out of it.

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~Luke a.k.a. pianiy
'91 Firebird :: 305/TBI(L03)/700R4/T-tops ::
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im 16 and i like all kinds of music....i've got 2 12" profile baja subs and a MTX 250 amp....sounds weak but when i put in trick daddy or someone of that sort then you can really feel the bass....but i do have to add that the bigger the sub the lower the bass will sound....just go to a best buy and check it out...listen to the 10's then listen to the 12's....and also you can turn up 12's more b4 they start to destort...unless you got some really tight 10's.......and just to let you know..i paid 60 for both subs at circuit city and 100 for the box and 150 for the amp and i am satisfied for how little it cost me

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best E.T. (dont laugh) 15.997 @86.04mph
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System in my old Lumina:

2 MTX Terminator 12"s: $40 each new
Box: Homemade, 4" ports, 2 cu. feet per speaker
AMP: Cheapo Baja from K's $140 on sale
Died summer of 2000, input section fried and i lost the receipt. Replaced with Baja BY600 shortly after ($160) and it rocked. BTW I wouldn't reccomend baja subs, their efficieny is not good at all. That was a good amp, i shouldn'tve sold it.
Head unit: whatever that panasonic that cost abot $315 was. Had non fading sub outputs with volume control and Xover built into the deck. It ruled.

Sound: Not bad, especially for the money.
Good bass drum kick for 12's, nice and deep.
Didn't sound so good for boomy/resonant bass like in rap or techno, but the punch from a rock song wasn't bad at all. 10's would have been better though for what i listen to. We put this stuff in my freinds daytona for a while and it was LOUD in a hatchback. But the box was way to big for my Gen3 so i sold it all.

Plan for the camaro:
(After the headers and 3.73 gears, thats my first priority)

New panasonic head unit is installed thanks to State farm insurance, somone tried to steal my old one. Didn't get it, they just broke it. Lesson to be learned: Take your face dumazz! (i'm not calling anyone else that, just myself)

Sub: one 10" or 12" cerwin vega in custom box. I really love the sound of CV subs. IMO, for a "rock setup" you want a 10" with decent amount of cone travel and a ported box, its got more kick than a sealed, again IMO. I would get familiar with reading all the technical details about subs, especially cone travel and efficiency.
Amp: Dunno yet, something about 300 watts bridged into the one sub. You might want a little less, depends.

I don't wanna rekindle the flame war, I just wanna disclaim that yes, i'm a punk/rock/metal guy. Rap/RB isn't my thing, but it still takes a lot of skill/talent to put some of that stuff together. Just different skill/talent. I'm a "rock" musician, have been for years, i play the music that i identify with and "speaks" to me. Whatever is anyone else's thing, fine with me.



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88 Camaro (not an RS, or an IROC, justa camaro.)
305TBI/700R4/2.73
14" Open Element and Flowmaster 80 seires

Next up: headers and gears