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Old May 23, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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carb id help

I was just wondering if anyone out ther could give me some help. I have just aquired a couple of 4 barrell carbs and can't find out any info about them. The numbers are as follows.

Carb #1- Holley, list #6339, other #s D2HF-9510-DA

Carb #2- Carter WCFB, # on tag- 2197S The carter one is different looking.

I wanted to know if these are desirable carb or not as they both look to be in very good condition, as a matter of fact, the Carter one looks like it has never been used before.

Any help that you can offer would be very appreciated.

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Old May 23, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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The Holley is an OEM carb for a F*rd application, 72 model. I'm betting it's for a truck.... probably a 360 motor but I don't know that for sure.

No clue about the Carter.

The Holley might be desirable for use on a F*rd, where its linkage will hook up and work. It won't be a particularly "good runner" though. It's probably about a 550-600 CFM unit. I can't recall what the common flow "rating" was on those small factory carbs; 585 maybe?
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Old May 23, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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Wow, a Carter WCFB? That was the original 4 bbl carb from the 50s, mostly famous for weighing something like 25 lbs. I think they were mostly used on Chryslers, but I'd have to double check. It was largely obsoleted when the AFB came out a few years later. It's value as a performance carb is pretty much nil, but you might be able to get something for it from someone doing a restoration.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by Apeiron
Wow, a Carter WCFB? That was the original 4 bbl carb from the 50s, mostly famous for weighing something like 25 lbs. I think they were mostly used on Chryslers, but I'd have to double check. It was largely obsoleted when the AFB came out a few years later. It's value as a performance carb is pretty much nil, but you might be able to get something for it from someone doing a restoration.
If it is a WCFB, also used on 220 HP Super Turbo Fire, aka "power pack", and on dual quad 283s in 1957.

Everything else said pretty much sums it up.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by Apeiron
Wow, a Carter WCFB? That was the original 4 bbl carb from the 50s, mostly famous for weighing something like 25 lbs. I think they were mostly used on Chryslers, but I'd have to double check. It was largely obsoleted when the AFB came out a few years later. It's value as a performance carb is pretty much nil, but you might be able to get something for it from someone doing a restoration.
The wcfb looks like it has never been used before. It's actually a lot lighter than the holley carb. I'm probably going to sell it though as I don't have any use for it.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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Lighter than the Holley? That's pretty unusual, WCFBs have a cast iron base.

According to my list, that carb was OE on a 1955 Buick Super M-50, Century 60 or Roadmaster 70.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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I know they did but this one is aluminum, don't know why but like I said it doesn't look like it has ever been used, maybe it was rebuilt and upgraded. By the way I got both of them for free.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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The last WCFB I rebuilt, was off of a 56 Buick Roadmaster. That was probably 20-25 years ago. Haven't even seen one since.

It was heavy as hell.

It was a piece of dung. Imagine stomping your pedal to the floor, and having your mixture vary as you go over a bump.

Kind of like the Edelbrock Carter carbs.

It would be BEYOND PRICE to somebody with a 55 Buick, and a carb destroyed by moisture or whatever. Put it on ebay, and be prepared to wait. Obviously there won't be people by the thousands clamoring for it; but when the right one shows up, he/she will WANT THAT CARB BAD. Seems like I charged the guy that I rebuilt that one for, about 45 or 5 times what I usually charged. After all, I had to do extra work; took about 3 or 4 phone calls to run down the kit. What a PITA.

I think Ape has the same list I do http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Kbuick2.htm
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Old May 23, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by doug86z
I know they did but this one is aluminum, don't know why but like I said it doesn't look like it has ever been used, maybe it was rebuilt and upgraded.
Are you sure it's complete, not just a replacement main body or something? The base of a WCFB is cast iron and the body is actually zinc, not aluminum. Only the top plate is aluminum. They weigh 18 lbs, no joke.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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It's a complete carb and it only weighs in at about 10 lbs. I will try and get a pic of it online later.

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