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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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Can I remove choke ?

Hi guys.
The choke on my carb has failed.
Rather than dumping a bunch of scrath on a new choke kit. Could I just remove the choke all together?
84 camaro, no ECM controll, not an everyday driver.
If I can remove it, how do I do it?
thanx.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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what kind of carb
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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q-jet. 4bbl. no ECM control
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ryanz53
q-jet. 4bbl. no ECM control
just starting taking things off choke related butterfly, linkage etc and you should be good just as long as it does not look important
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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zip tie it open if you like, as long as it isn't below 50 out or so it's not needed.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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you can buy a new electric choke for it or get a good used one for cheap or free from a yard.,

simple fix here

and have you made sure you stil have 12v + in the wire to the choke ?

without the 12v it wont work
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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Don't remove the choke, it just makes cold starts a big PITA. Either hook up a manual choke conversion kit, which is cheap, or repair the existing electric choke, which is also cheap.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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forget the choke.. you dont need it.. i run a mighty demon.. it doesnt even come with a choke tower on it.. hahaha.. all i do to start is pump to the floor once and she fires..
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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You're also in Hawaii But then again, mine will fire up after a couple quick taps to the gas pedal when it's in the high 30's outside. Just have to keep the rpms up for a bit to warm it up. Running a Mighty Demon as well.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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Not true its gotten to 6 or 7 degrees and mine starts right up first or second try wih a bit of gas with my q-jet, edelbrock and holley never had a choke.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 12:56 AM
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6 or 7 degrees?!?!?! wow.. its gotten down to low 50's maybe high 40's in hawaii.. i still warm up my car to about 125* before i drive her.. keep her at 2000rpm for a good 3 minutes and take off driving..
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 01:11 AM
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and can you belive it started right up of there is a 4 inch cowl under there if its that cold and mine starts any one can run w/o a choke
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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Thanx guys

Thanx guys for all your input.
I will remove the choke. I only run her in the summer when it is nice and hot, without a cloud in the sky anyway.
You guy are great!
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by birdsgonnafly

and can you belive it started right up of there is a 4 inch cowl under there if its that cold and mine starts any one can run w/o a choke
I assume you have to wait for it to warm up before driving? Im using a wetflow system, and it needs tons of enrichment in order to get the car to start and drive smoothly under all types of loads when the engine is ice cold.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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With my holley I have to wait till the engine gets to about 120 for it to run right but my edelbrock I just let it get past 100 to be safe with the engine and it runs fine. But I admidt I was late to school one day started it and took of w/o warming it up and it ran like a champ with just a hint of stumble under a load.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 02:40 AM
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lol i cheat, when it is real cold i drop a fan heater under the bonit facing the carb/intake for the 20/30 min while im having my shower at 4am in the morning.
I jump in the car and she fires first time that was with the Holley 600 and Q-Jet both with no choke.
but half the time it didn't need it.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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My choke's busted, it's a royal PITA to start below 50 degrees... almost kills the battery to crank it. I'm definitely fixing it ASAP.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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My brother used to run w/o a choke with his holley, and it was a nightmare to get it to start sometimes in the winter. Had to let it idle before it could be driven. Always fun getting it to start. With wetflow EFI, its possible to get it to run the same as it does hot right off the bat, but even there, for the first 10 secs it fouls the plugs at very low temps untill they get hot enough to keep the deposits and raw fuel off.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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I've figured out a bit of a way to "cheat" and get by without a choke on a 4150/4160 style Holley, although I don't know if it will work on a Demon (the base may be different from a Holley?)

Anyway, what I did for my double pumper (4777) was to get an AC kicker solenoid, bracket and nut from Holley. It was used on the Holley-equipped factory cars that had AC, and Holley still makes all the parts to do it.

The bracket mounts to the base right infront of the throttle lever, drivers side. When it has power to it, it pushes the throttle open - how much is up to you, as the solenoid is adjustable. Just hook it up to a switch to flip it on and kick the idle speed up enough to run it cold, then turn it off and let it drop down once the engine has some heat in it.

It will probably run rougher than a carb with a proper choke would, but its a great fast idle setup for chokeless carbs, like my 4777 which has no choke plate or choke tower.

I accidentally bought two of all the parts for this setup, so if anyone wants a bracket and solenoid, you can have them for any reasonable offer. PM me if you want them.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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thats cool, id never think to do sumfin like that.
Id just make a cable (like a choke cable) that you can move the throttle with to adjust it on cold mornings.

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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Air_Adam
I've figured out a bit of a way to "cheat" and get by without a choke on a 4150/4160 style Holley, although I don't know if it will work on a Demon (the base may be different from a Holley?)

Anyway, what I did for my double pumper (4777) was to get an AC kicker solenoid, bracket and nut from Holley. It was used on the Holley-equipped factory cars that had AC, and Holley still makes all the parts to do it.

The bracket mounts to the base right infront of the throttle lever, drivers side. When it has power to it, it pushes the throttle open - how much is up to you, as the solenoid is adjustable. Just hook it up to a switch to flip it on and kick the idle speed up enough to run it cold, then turn it off and let it drop down once the engine has some heat in it.

It will probably run rougher than a carb with a proper choke would, but its a great fast idle setup for chokeless carbs, like my 4777 which has no choke plate or choke tower.

I accidentally bought two of all the parts for this setup, so if anyone wants a bracket and solenoid, you can have them for any reasonable offer. PM me if you want them.
wow, thats pretty interesting. best of both worlds: HP main body w/ "choke".

very interesting. i may have to consider that.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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Some GM trucks also came with a throttle kicker, which works in teh same fasion. IIRC, when the brakes where applied and the engine was cold, the throttle kicker would be active. Might even be that same part.
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