Carburetors Carb discussion and questions. Upgrading your Third Gen's carburetor, swapping TBI to carburetor, or TPI to carburetor? Need LG4 or H.O. info? Post it here.

Why Convert to a Carb?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-16-2007, 07:13 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
PedalToMetal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Why Convert to a Carb?

I'm kind of new to automotive mechanics, and i want to know why it's better to switch to TBI or such to a carburator. Is a FI not more precise in the dose of fuel needed? Please enlighten me.
Old 08-16-2007, 07:56 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (14)
 
//<86TA>\\'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 12,654
Likes: 0
Received 47 Likes on 45 Posts
Car: 86 Trans Am, 92 Firebird
Engine: 408 sbc, 3.1L of raw power
Transmission: TKO600, T5
Axle/Gears: Moser 9", 3:70 trutac, 3:23 torsion
Re: Why Convert to a Carb?

well, the fuel injection systems installed in the thirdgen from the factory leave a lot to be desired and have their limitations. Upgrading to a better fuel injected system is very expensive. Carbs are a simple way to feed an engine and are much less expensive than a fuel injection system. And some people just like the look of a carb over the injector unit.
Old 08-19-2007, 02:05 PM
  #3  
Member
 
86FireBird305's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Middlesex,NJ
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Firebird LG4
Engine: 305 5.0 LG4
Transmission: TH-700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Re: Why Convert to a Carb?

And for people who are into racing there cars, its easier to just bolt on a big high flowing carb instead of doing extensive FI work... oh and less parts to worry about
Old 08-19-2007, 02:12 PM
  #4  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (5)
 
xpndbl3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Orland Park, IL
Posts: 13,622
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 1984 Z28
Engine: SLOW carbed ls
Transmission: TH400 with brake, 8" PTC converter
Axle/Gears: moser 9" 4.11
Re: Why Convert to a Carb?

cheaper and more HP, easily adaptable to new mods, etc etc. Stock fuel injection is very restrictive, old technology and very hard to get high HP out of. Although it does lead to better fuel economy, but I didn't build my car worrying about mpg.
Old 08-19-2007, 04:59 PM
  #5  
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
firebirdjosh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Worcester, MA
Posts: 3,361
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86 T/A
Engine: HSR 355
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.77 posi
Re: Why Convert to a Carb?

I see everyone referring to the stock TPI when comparing FI. How about a modern FI system (stealth ram, mini ram, LT1 intake) compared to a modern carb? Still a trade off of power for economy? I had always hoped FI would get more power (better fuel atomization) and much more precise when tuning.
Old 08-19-2007, 05:17 PM
  #6  
Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Phatfiddler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 412
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Why Convert to a Carb?

You can always run, like I do, a single-plane EFI system. It has the same restrictions to the air as a carb setup since it uses an identical manifold and throttle body, so allows for the high HP numbers. But, as mentioned, there is a cost. For a quality, easy to tune setup like this, it is big $$$. Even on a decent budget, it can be difficult...

Manifold, TB, rails, injectors $800
OBDII harness for LS1 PCM $650
411' LS1 PCM $70

Dont forget all of the sensors, crank trigger, crab-style distributor, and fuse box. And this is all assuming you dont use a stock TPI computer and harness.

If you want to make the best HP per dollar, carb is where you need to be...
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Azrael91966669
DIY PROM
25
06-20-2017 04:04 AM
theshackle
Tech / General Engine
4
03-05-2017 06:37 PM
andy74
Electronics
2
09-03-2015 08:41 AM
BlackphantomZ28
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
0
08-22-2015 01:00 PM
Dialed_In
Firebirds for Sale
2
08-20-2015 01:45 PM



Quick Reply: Why Convert to a Carb?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:40 AM.