Carburetors Carb discussion and questions. Upgrading your Third Gen's carburetor, swapping TBI to carburetor, or TPI to carburetor? Need LG4 or H.O. info? Post it here.

What carb to use?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 20, 2009 | 12:44 PM
  #1  
killa66cam's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
What carb to use?

I am looking at a couple of carbs on craigslist, and was wondering what I should use. The first one is a rebuilt Q-Jet for $60. The second one is a 625 Speed Demon, with electric choke, and vacuum secondaries..that needs to be rebuilt...for $125. The Barry Grant rebuild kit is about $60. The car is a 1991 Camaro RS Convertible...with a 305 and a 700R4. This is what I have planned for the car:

Edelbrock filter assembly w/ K&N filter (already have)
Holley Street Avenger 670cfm Carburetor (already have)
Professional Products Carb Intake (already have)
059 Vortec Heads (already have)
Hedman Hedders 1 5/8 Long tubes (already have)
LT1 Cam, Springs, and Retainers (already have)
GM HEI Distributor with Mallory components (already have)
Mallory 4309 AFPR (already have)

Cam

Last edited by killa66cam; Dec 16, 2009 at 12:24 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:06 PM
  #2  
anthony714's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 883
Likes: 0
Re: What carb to use?

you need tosit down and really ask yourself "what am i using this car for most" and then build your carb accordingly. if its a drag car then some carbs/mods might not be so street freindly and on the flip side if its a street car with an occasional strip action you might set it up for the street but not get max benefit from it. also power and "mileage" dont tend to go hand in hand so much with a carb. with that said if its a street car and you set it up right theres absolutely nothin wrong with the qjet. theres arguements back and fourth but when done right a qjet tends to give you a little of all worlds. the one i had had no problem going low 12's and 13-14 mpg ....
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2009 | 03:13 PM
  #3  
killa66cam's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Re: What carb to use?

Originally Posted by anthony714
you need tosit down and really ask yourself "what am i using this car for most" and then build your carb accordingly. if its a drag car then some carbs/mods might not be so street freindly and on the flip side if its a street car with an occasional strip action you might set it up for the street but not get max benefit from it. also power and "mileage" dont tend to go hand in hand so much with a carb. with that said if its a street car and you set it up right theres absolutely nothin wrong with the qjet. theres arguements back and fourth but when done right a qjet tends to give you a little of all worlds. the one i had had no problem going low 12's and 13-14 mpg ....
It will mainly be a street car. Some drag racing on occasions for right now. I may add some nitrous at some point as well; but that will be later on.

Cam
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2009 | 03:46 PM
  #4  
thisjustaintme's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
From: Northwest INDIANA
Re: What carb to use?

Heads have any port work done? how bout the intake? id say a carb under 700cfm will work anything id say somthing like this would work http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HLY-0-80555C/
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2009 | 04:20 PM
  #5  
killa66cam's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Re: What carb to use?

Originally Posted by thisjustaintme
Heads have any port work done? how bout the intake? id say a carb under 700cfm will work anything id say somthing like this would work http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HLY-0-80555C/
The heads and the intake are completely stock...no porting. I may end up porting the exhaust side of the heads some...but we will see about that. I like that carb, but don't like the $373.75 price tag. I was looking for something around 650cfm. I found that Demon carb, that is a 625cfm, on craigslist. I can get it for a $100, and the rebuild kit would be another $60. The reason I was mainly looking at the Q-Jet is because I can get it for $60, and it has already been rebuilt. It came factory on a lot of GM vehicles...many stock SBC and some BBC. That being said, I'm sure that it would be enough for a warmed up 305...I just didn't want it to be too much, or not worth using at all for my setup.

Cam
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2009 | 07:08 PM
  #6  
thisjustaintme's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
From: Northwest INDIANA
Re: What carb to use?

I would stay away from demon carbs a holley style carb is the way to go very easy to adjust and change jets summit has remanufactured holley carbs on there for alot cheaper
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2009 | 08:51 PM
  #7  
killa66cam's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Re: What carb to use?

Originally Posted by thisjustaintme
I would stay away from demon carbs a holley style carb is the way to go very easy to adjust and change jets summit has remanufactured holley carbs on there for alot cheaper
So you would recommend the Q-Jet over the Road Demon, of the two carbs I was asking about, right? And you would recommend a Holley over most anything else I take it?

Cam
Reply
Old Oct 29, 2009 | 02:39 PM
  #8  
five7kid's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 43,187
Likes: 45
From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Stick with the q-jet.

Exactly which intake do you have?
Reply
Old Oct 29, 2009 | 04:02 PM
  #9  
killa66cam's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Re: What carb to use?

Originally Posted by five7kid
Stick with the q-jet.

Exactly which intake do you have?
Right now I have the Performance Products Vortec carb intake. I may end up getting a Edelbrock or GM Vortec carb intake though.

Cam
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2009 | 12:23 PM
  #10  
killa66cam's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Re: What carb to use?

I ended up getting a Holley Street Avenger 670cfm carb from a TGO member. I have updated my first post to reflect the carb and other things that I have recently purchased...mainly for me to keep track of everything that I have and need.

My question now is: how much better would a Edelbrock RPM Air Gap Vortec intake be, compared to the Professional Products Vortec intake that I have?

Cam
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2009 | 12:39 PM
  #11  
five7kid's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 43,187
Likes: 45
From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Which Professional Products Vortec intake do you have?
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2009 | 12:56 PM
  #12  
killa66cam's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Re: What carb to use?

Originally Posted by five7kid
Which Professional Products Vortec intake do you have?
I think that it is the Cyclone one. I haven't seen any kind of model number on the intake itself, but the Cyclone one looks like the only dual pattern intake that they make.

Cam
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2009 | 02:07 PM
  #13  
five7kid's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 43,187
Likes: 45
From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
The Crosswind is a true dual plane. But, you should be able to tell the difference between the Cyclone and Crosswind by the gap or lack thereof under the plenum.

Is yours square bore only, or will it mount either a spread bore or square bore carb?
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2009 | 09:17 PM
  #14  
killa66cam's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Re: What carb to use?

Originally Posted by five7kid
The Crosswind is a true dual plane. But, you should be able to tell the difference between the Cyclone and Crosswind by the gap or lack thereof under the plenum.

Is yours square bore only, or will it mount either a spread bore or square bore carb?
There is no gap under the plenum. So I guess that I have the Cyclone.

My intake has the dual pattern, for the spread and square bore.

Cam
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2009 | 01:08 PM
  #15  
five7kid's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 43,187
Likes: 45
From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Okay, that's the idle-5500 RPM Cyclone.

(Whew!)

Now, we can address your question about the Performer RPM.

It would help the upper end power without a significant effect on the lower RPM power.

BUT...

I'm not sure how much difference it would make with 059 heads. Most discussions involve 906 or 062 heads.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2009 | 09:47 AM
  #16  
killa66cam's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Re: What carb to use?

Originally Posted by five7kid
Okay, that's the idle-5500 RPM Cyclone.

(Whew!)

Now, we can address your question about the Performer RPM.

It would help the upper end power without a significant effect on the lower RPM power.

BUT...

I'm not sure how much difference it would make with 059 heads. Most discussions involve 906 or 062 heads.
So probably just stick with the Cyclone intake for now?

Cam
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2009 | 09:57 AM
  #17  
kens86's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 236
Likes: 0
From: New holland, PA
Car: 1986 Camaro
Engine: 436" SBC
Transmission: TH350, 8" Converter
Axle/Gears: S60 with 4:11 and Locker
Re: What carb to use?

yep I would.
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2009 | 02:00 PM
  #18  
killa66cam's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Re: What carb to use?

I think that I will at least try it first. If I end up getting the heads machined, and going with a LT4 cam, I will probably go with a Edelbrock RPM Air Gap intake.

Cam
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RedLeader289
Tech / General Engine
10
May 28, 2019 01:47 PM
mcfastestZ28
Tech / General Engine
1
Oct 1, 2015 11:23 AM
IROC ZELLER
Engine Swap
6
Sep 29, 2015 03:00 PM
efiguy
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
0
Sep 27, 2015 01:30 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:30 PM.