I put a rebuilt 355 out of a 79 c30 in my 86 iroc camaro it was originally a tpi car, now has a quadrajet, still has a 700r4. I have the mr Gasket throttle cable adaptor with provision for a kick down, which is where I have put my tv cable. Do I need a geometry adaptor too? Which is another 24$ in addition to the 20$ I already spent on the POS mr gasket chrome junk. Why couldn't I just go to autozone and get a tv cable for a 700r4 up to a carburetor factory, since they did put computer controlled qjets on some of these cars factory and autozone does offer a tv cable for the carbed car. Anyone have any ideas?

I have included a pic of my throttle bracket I have now

 

Yes you MUST have the geometry corrector, otherwise the amount that the cable gets pulled, which is THE ONLY WAY the trans has of knowing what's going on in the world around it and therefore what it needs to do, is all out of whack with how far the throttle is moved.

www.tvmadeez.com

 

ok that brings my other question up, I have already spent 20$ on the throttle bracket, the geometry adaptor is another 25$. What would be wrong with buying a tv cable that actually goes to a camaro that came with a quadrajet? It would be pretty much the same price and im sure not having an extra bracket under my hood would look a whole lot better.

 

The bracket is just that... a bracket. All it does, is hold the outer part of the cable in place. Impossible to tell from the pic whether it's really "the right" one, or not.

The "geometry corrector" bolts to the throtle lever on the carb itself. It puts the point that the cable inner attaches to, in the right spot. (right distance from the throttle shaft, right amount of rotation) This is ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL to the trans working right and surviving. If your carb didn't come with a 700 and therefore already has the right attachment for it, you need it. Period.

Yes you will probably need the right TV cable, no matter what. Kinda goes without saying.

Can't answer about "price"... seems kinda chicken s*** to even let that little bit of nothing enter the picture at this point... do you want to dink around with some pennies, or do you want your car to work RIGHT and your $1500 transmission to LAST? or what?

What did you learn from the link? Find the parts for your carb? Read the "TV 101 Article"?

 

ive been looking at this stuff for awhile. What I'm saying is that if I got the correct tv cable for a car that came with a quadrajet originally why would I need the geometry corrector? And also 20$ is not pennies to me I am an unemployed college student, i have been working on this car for over two years. At this point I'm about out of my budget for the build. The car is completed, it ran right for awhile, we had an issue and now it doesn't run right.

 

Geometry corrector needed because it was not a carb car.
Browse the

Engine // Transmission Parts For Sale threads

And see if there are TV cables from a carb or TBI for sale.
Always worth a shot even if the ads are about a year or so old.
From what I've read, 700R4 trans will become a paperweight pretty quick if the TV cable is not adjusted correctly

 

Because the geometry isn't in THE CABLE, it's in THE THROTTLE LINKAGE.

As of course, you'd ALREADY KNOW, if you had READ THE PAGE I linked you to.

I don't give a crap what you think RIGHT NOW about that piddly $20 you might have wasted on that other thing, or any of that other irrelevant drivel. Neither does your transmission. Might seem like "alot" to you NOW, in which case, you must not drive alot, because that's less than the gas to drive from Carmel to Lucas Oil Stadium and back will cost you. Just wait until you ruin your transmission by driving it without the TV cable working properly and find out how much THAT'S going to cost to fix; you'll be WISHING you'd spent what it takes to DO IT RIGHT then but it'll be TOO LATE. At that point, NOT ONLY will you realize you have to buy the right stuff to make your cable work, BUT ALSO, you'll be facing a transmission rebuild. Arguing wth me here won't change that, it's REALITY and doesn't listen to protests no matter how "poor" the protester thinks he is. And no, there are no "cheeeeeeeeep" trans rebuilds, so you'll look like an idiot getting on here and poor-mouthing about it like so many others before you who have made bad decisions (or just had bad luck, or even just had one that reached the end of its service life and wore out from old age).

Which of course you'll find out, if you READ THE PAGE I linked you to, instead of showing your inexperience by arguing like a little kid about stuff that's not really subject to argument. (Things like, the Earth is round not flat, the Earth goes around the Sun not the reverse, the transmission requires that the cable be moved in the correct relationship to the throttle linkage in order for it to work properly and survive, and so on)

 

alright dude first off im not a ****ing idiot I understand how a POS 700r4 works, second off I can rebuild transmissions and the stock rebuild kit for a 700r4 is about 200$ not that expensive and no I'm not paying someone to do it, like you are assuming. Third off it's not my DD, it's just sitting, any extra money I get goes towards bills, I just recently got 20$ to put a fuel pump on the camaro to try to get it running again after it had sat for two months because I had to use the one off it for my truck. The point in question is why would I need the geometry adaptor if I got the cable that goes to a carbureted car? It doesn't make sense that I would need both , a geometry corrector and a tv cable for a carbed car everyones I've asked has just been complete ****ing *******s about it. I understand that cable is not a kickdown, it cannot be adjusted, only set. It has to open at set points for the trans to work properly because its a trans control cable.

 

So, since you "know" all that, surely you "know" what the cable is for, how it works, and what it takes to make it work right.

YOU NEED THE GEOMETRY CORRECTOR. Not sure how I have failed to make this clear? Without it, YOUR TRANSMISSION WILL BE DESTROYED.

You *may* need a different cable as well; without seeing what you've got now, whether it's tore up or not and stuff like that, whether it routes where it needs to go, etc., I can't say for sure. But that's beside the point. A whole other matter. YOU NEED THE GEOMETRY CORRECTOR however, for sure.

If you "knew" how this stuff worked, it wouldn't NOT make sense to you.

What questions do you have about the information on the link?

 

The reason the carbed thirdgens from the factory didn't have them is they had the carbs, and thei brackets tuned into being where it should all be for the correct line pressure ect. Your not going a factory route so you need the extra brackets to help get you into the place where the factory would have set the cables.

 

You could use a TV line from say an 84 HO 4 bbl camaro that came with a rochester carb and 700r4, but that may not work with your carb, I'm just not sure that all rochesters would have had the TV linkage in the same spot, they may have moved it around depending on the vehicle it was going in to correct the geometry. If you can find one for under $20 you can give it a shot, but if it doesn't work then you'll still need a corrector, I'm in the same boat right now, I have to get one for my edelbrock and have $0 to buy it.

 

So true Sofa, He will burn up that 700r4 without the geometry set right.When I had my 700r4 rebuilt (im not a transmission guy at all)I also had the lock up disabled. So if he wants a lock up he will need a lockup switch I know TCI has one which I heard works great. What

 

I ordered the TV cable kit for my 700R4, and edelbrock carb from TCI, was $81, has what you need. Also, for the 4th gear lock up, I talked to a transmission guy. He showed me how he does them, $43 in parts, and done. If you haven't done it yet, I could maybe scan you the drawing he gave me.

Bob