'88 Vert worth fixing?
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Oh heck yeah. Ban One show coming up. Check out the South East forum for details.
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Well it just had to happen! A low mileage 100% original car and the body shop called me today and informed me that during the rmoval/installation of the passenger side door panel, the long plastic piece at the top broke. New ones are not available, but I sure do wish they were, and finding one in mint condition will be difficult. I do not blame them at all, after all I have broken a few myself. I looked for one in the TGO classifieds and some of the threads are so long you fall asleep reading through them. Maybe i will look again when I am rested and not so P#@%$ed off! Damnit!
Things were going so good too.
Things were going so good too.
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Well it just had to happen! A low mileage 100% original car and the body shop called me today and informed me that during the rmoval/installation of the passenger side door panel, the long plastic piece at the top broke. New ones are not available, but I sure do wish they were, and finding one in mint condition will be difficult. I do not blame them at all, after all I have broken a few myself. I looked for one in the TGO classifieds and some of the threads are so long you fall asleep reading through them. Maybe i will look again when I am rested and not so P#@%$ed off! Damnit!
Things were going so good too.
Things were going so good too.
No cracks/breaks or sunfading.
I need a door hinge kit for my car so,please pm me!!!!!
Perhaps we can work something out?
And I think the near 60k odometer is still a factor in your motivation Andy!
Why would you let a simple piece like this get the best of you?
Must have been a looooooong day!
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Timmy, are the pins on the back that are used to attach the door panel still intact? If so I am sure we can come to some sort of deal. Do you need standard or greaseable door hinge repair kit?
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Non-geasable will work for me unless you care to part with a greasable one?
Let me know man,can have this part headed your way on Monday.
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I tried to insert some new pictures per the instructions. But my pictures do not begin with HTTP. They are in jpeg format on my computer. It is so frustrating!..
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Andy .. we cant see what pics you have it you just have them on your computer, you need to upload them to the WEB .. you know what I mean .. once on the WEB it will Spread like GERMS.
go get yourself a photobucket account over at www.photobucket.com and once you upload your photos there it give you an option to post pics on websites like this. To tell you the Truth .. I dont know how you guys do those small pics where you click on it to expand it .. LOL I only know how to put big pics on here.
Lets see some pics Andy !! come on you can do it.
heres the upload section where you browse your pics on your computer to choose which ones you want to share ......!
Once uploaded to your online folder there is this option under it !!! just click once on the part that starts like this "[img]" .. once you click on it, It will automatically copy it !! come back here , right click and paste ... hit ENTER and lets see some pics. come on I wanna see pics, plus I wanna know if Im a good teacher. lol
go get yourself a photobucket account over at www.photobucket.com and once you upload your photos there it give you an option to post pics on websites like this. To tell you the Truth .. I dont know how you guys do those small pics where you click on it to expand it .. LOL I only know how to put big pics on here.
Lets see some pics Andy !! come on you can do it.
heres the upload section where you browse your pics on your computer to choose which ones you want to share ......!
Once uploaded to your online folder there is this option under it !!! just click once on the part that starts like this "[img]" .. once you click on it, It will automatically copy it !! come back here , right click and paste ... hit ENTER and lets see some pics. come on I wanna see pics, plus I wanna know if Im a good teacher. lol
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I'm sorry sir. His car is not a germ.
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I am nearing the end of this odyssey, BUT some curiuosly easy items remain. The dash and substructure including the rear portion of the heater A/C box were damaged bevond repair. I have removed them, but after combing the local pic-n-pull joints am unable to locate suitable replacements. I have a dash panel from an '86 which the parts book says should be the same. but alas it is different. So i am currently searching for one https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/inte...arts-89-a.html I wish their was a local donor car. Thanks, Andy
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I have updates but I have the usual hassle with posting images. I have plans to put them all up on my website then simply link to them. It will be better than trying to post a massive amount of images here.
Does anyone know how I can make the before and after images (two images) fade in and out like I have sometimes seen done at Power Point demonstrations? I am going to take a picture in the exact same spot with the after picture.
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Does anyone know how I can make the before and after images (two images) fade in and out like I have sometimes seen done at Power Point demonstrations? I am going to take a picture in the exact same spot with the after picture.
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I raised the tonneau cover yesterday and noticed two lanyard looking pull cables. One on each side in the top storage area. What are these cables for? They appear to be some sort of release cables. Thanks, Andy
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They are the emergency release cables if your solenoids quit working...
Personally I would not use them all the time, I would get the solenoids fixed ASAP as if the cables break you are SOL trying to get the tonneau open.
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Personally I would not use them all the time, I would get the solenoids fixed ASAP as if the cables break you are SOL trying to get the tonneau open.
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I didn't even think about the solenoids not working, I am glad I asked. Thanks, Andy
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I have located nearly all of the parts and services required to do the repairs back to pre-damage condition. Some new parts, and mostly used in exellent condition. a non-rusted hood in red was a big find in my efforts.
But a rather significant issue has emerged. I am unable to get a title in Virginia which would allow me to EVER drive the car again. They consider the car as "non-repairable"! No discussion of their position is allowed. I have a PA title, and in PA the car is now considered a "classic/antique" worthy of preservation. I have been advised (by a non-governmental person) not to perform any work on the car until this is resolved. Furthermore to keep careful records of all the parts I have so far collected. I may need to get a lawyer to assist me in going to war with the VA DMV. The whole thing is silly, but I have a grim determination to prevail!
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But a rather significant issue has emerged. I am unable to get a title in Virginia which would allow me to EVER drive the car again. They consider the car as "non-repairable"! No discussion of their position is allowed. I have a PA title, and in PA the car is now considered a "classic/antique" worthy of preservation. I have been advised (by a non-governmental person) not to perform any work on the car until this is resolved. Furthermore to keep careful records of all the parts I have so far collected. I may need to get a lawyer to assist me in going to war with the VA DMV. The whole thing is silly, but I have a grim determination to prevail!
Thanks, Andy
there is a simple work around, get a mail box in PA and re title it in your name then wait 6 months and have it retitled in VA as if you just moved to the state, if you have family in Pa it would greatly simplify things.......... just an idea
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I have thought about doing so. But it will always have a "salvage certificate", which is not a title. I will do it the right way and be done with the paperwork portion once-and-for-all. Thanks Andy
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I am working on getting all (nearly 100) images posted to my website so all can view them. Why pay for image hosting when I have plenty of room on my own website? They should be available in the next fwe days. Thanks, Andy
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All of the pictures ore now on my website http://andyz28.com/ I had them setup as a download slideshow instead on over 100 thumbnails. Let me know what you think. The color appears somewhat orage, but it is actually the factory red color. ENJOY!
But man what a lot of work to get the car repaired and finished as showroom condition.
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But man what a lot of work to get the car repaired and finished as showroom condition.
Thanks, Andy
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wow great work all i can say is u did it!!! was it hard to get the front clip to line up and everything did u use all gm parts hood fenders?
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Yes, all GM parts were used. The right fender was the last new GM "power antenna" fender in North America. Or so I was told. Getting the body straight was a big challenge for the body/frame shop as the car was also tweaked from the hard impact. But it is as godd (or possibly better) than new. What a thrill it is to drive this car. Thanks, Andy
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Your original estimate was approx $5500 to repair the car...Just curious what the final cost was...
Car looks great by the way!
Car looks great by the way!
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I will try and get a detailed breakdown of the actual expenses today and post them.
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How do I post a picture?
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Brief instructions can be found at the following link:
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However, you can email me at jt@thirdgen.org and I'll post them for you if you need assistance.
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However, you can email me at jt@thirdgen.org and I'll post them for you if you need assistance.
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Great looking IROC!! Glad to see you completed the project! That car looks as good as new and with only 59k miles you are set for a while! Congrats!
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looks great... motivates me to get mine on the road that much faster.
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I would have to say, great job! You pretty much had to dismantle the entire car!
Watching the progress was amazing. I could sure understand you being aggravated at times. I get frustrated with simple things, I doubt I could have ever done that with out blowing my own gasket..lol
It is just beautiful!!
Watching the progress was amazing. I could sure understand you being aggravated at times. I get frustrated with simple things, I doubt I could have ever done that with out blowing my own gasket..lol
It is just beautiful!!
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Well...……………… as 2018 draws to a close I would like to mention to anyone who is interested in knowing it, my beautifully restored 1988 IROC-Z seen in the previous photos has been burned up pretty badly. This happened on Christmas Day, my wife and I were just sitting down to breakfast I was drinking my first cup of coffee when the phone rang. The voice on the phone said, "this is the fire marshals office, is this (me) and do you own a 1988 IROC-Z Convertible"!
The car was in winter storage (no insurance) and the units next to mine burned, and I mean burned, incinerated really. Damn it! The guy next to me restored, or modified high end motorcycles with different fenders, sound systems, fuel tanks, etc. The shop does not have a dedicated power source for working in there, so anything you may have running will time out in an hour. The smart guy next door simply put a large pair of vice grips on the **** for the timer so that it would stay on. One of the many extension cords he had failed and burned up his shop, mine and many others in the building. It is no use getting him to cover the loss, and so I am once again faced with a second painful restoration project. DAMN IT!!!
The car was in winter storage (no insurance) and the units next to mine burned, and I mean burned, incinerated really. Damn it! The guy next to me restored, or modified high end motorcycles with different fenders, sound systems, fuel tanks, etc. The shop does not have a dedicated power source for working in there, so anything you may have running will time out in an hour. The smart guy next door simply put a large pair of vice grips on the **** for the timer so that it would stay on. One of the many extension cords he had failed and burned up his shop, mine and many others in the building. It is no use getting him to cover the loss, and so I am once again faced with a second painful restoration project. DAMN IT!!!
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That’s heartbreaking..
Did you see the flame red Vert I posted up the other day? 50k Miles 5-speed but neglected. They want $6950 but I think based on the work it needs you can beat up that price. To get it to show car my guess is it would need $12k but would be worth more and appreciate. For less money it could probably be fixed up and be a nice driver.
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It’s a good reminder to always insure. Classic insurance is only $500/year for my Vert and they give me $25,000 value through Hagerty.
I think there has to be some liability payout to you. Your neighbor was negligent and damaged your property. You could claim a loss for all the time, work, money and appreciation of these cars. The car looked great!
I would maybe consult an attorney. Someone has some kind of insurance that will have to pay you for the loss. That guy rigged the electricity to stay on and burned down your car.. that’s nuts. If he doesn’t want to settle it with you and do the right thing an attorney could find out if the storage business has insurance that would cover damage by customers which would pay to fix their property and should also cover your property that was damaged.
Did you see the flame red Vert I posted up the other day? 50k Miles 5-speed but neglected. They want $6950 but I think based on the work it needs you can beat up that price. To get it to show car my guess is it would need $12k but would be worth more and appreciate. For less money it could probably be fixed up and be a nice driver.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...-save-car.html
It’s a good reminder to always insure. Classic insurance is only $500/year for my Vert and they give me $25,000 value through Hagerty.
I think there has to be some liability payout to you. Your neighbor was negligent and damaged your property. You could claim a loss for all the time, work, money and appreciation of these cars. The car looked great!
I would maybe consult an attorney. Someone has some kind of insurance that will have to pay you for the loss. That guy rigged the electricity to stay on and burned down your car.. that’s nuts. If he doesn’t want to settle it with you and do the right thing an attorney could find out if the storage business has insurance that would cover damage by customers which would pay to fix their property and should also cover your property that was damaged.
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Also if you have a homeowners or renters policy it can sometimes cover storage. When my sistser’s dorm had a fire on Christmas break in the 90s (a girl who stayed at school and left candles burning) they got a payout from my parents homeowners insurance for every item that was in there. It was covered under my parents homeowners.
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Yes, our homeowners policy covered everything that was not an actual car.
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Just an FYI, normally storage insurance is really cheap. I used to pay $75/ year for Fire, Theft, glass breakage. Instead of going to Hagerty, or Grundy I would just put on or take off insurance as I needed it. It was less expensive in the long run, but it was also quite inconvenient. I still put my 2002 Lesabre (summer daily) and my wife's 2005 Mustang Convertible (Wife's daily) in storage on my standard insurance.
Ended up eventually going to Grundy when I purchased a 2016 Supercharged Roush Mustang RS3 via a loan, it was less expensive to insure all my cars with them than it was to insure just the Mustang at the time, and since I had a loan, I could not just put it on storage insurance in the winter...
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Ended up eventually going to Grundy when I purchased a 2016 Supercharged Roush Mustang RS3 via a loan, it was less expensive to insure all my cars with them than it was to insure just the Mustang at the time, and since I had a loan, I could not just put it on storage insurance in the winter...
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